Sporting News Mock Draft/Kenny Irons

[b bulldog]

Sharper has lost at least one step and Minny needs to upgrade that position. Smoot is as good as gone.

[Charles Woodson]

isnt 23 the pick taht rodgers fell to us?

He fell one lower to us, at 24.

Kenny Irons is more talked about as a late 1st to mid 2nd than being a top 20 pick. I like him more than Lynch, if we could get a Safety in Round 1 and then Irons in round 2 I'd be very happy.

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i could maybe see him as our secound pick but i really dont like irons, and idk how u can say that hes better than lynch, lynch can be a dual catch and rush... I dont know irons doesnt strike me as a great RB... It also could be because i hate auburn

[Freak Out]

isnt 23 the pick taht rodgers fell to us?

He fell one lower to us, at 24.

Kenny Irons is more talked about as a late 1st to mid 2nd than being a top 20 pick. I like him more than Lynch, if we could get a Safety in Round 1 and then Irons in round 2 I'd be very happy.

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i could maybe see him as our secound pick but i really dont like irons, and idk how u can say that hes better than lynch, lynch can be a dual catch and rush... I dont know irons doesnt strike me as a great RB... It also could be because i hate auburn

Irons has been known to drop a few balls but I think he is the real deal when it comes to running the ball. That said I still think 16 is to high to take him. Who knows...he could impress at the combine. How did he do over the weekend?

[ND72]

Quinn won't fall out of top 5....Cleveland has already said if either Russell or Quinn fall, they will take them. Bad mock all around.

[Joemailman]

ND,

I agree Quinn probably won't slide, but I would take what Cleveland, or any team says right now, with a grain of salt. Lots of posturing will be going on the next 3 months.

[ND72]

oh i agree...BUT...it's well documented that Clevelands coach and GM have both voiced their "displeasure" with their state at QB right now.

[Deputy Nutz]

First, I don't understand why Cleveland would give up on Frye that fast and jump on Russel or Quinn. Second, Quinn isn't falling out of the top ten, and I pitty the team that takes Russell with the First pick in the draft.

I also second Ted Thompson trading down in the draft, the lack of talent in the first round of this draft has me scratching my head. excuse me, the lack of talent minus the injury concerns.

Lastly this draft is a bit of a wreck, although time will tell, this draft class is really going to fluctuate in the coming months, far more than in years past.

[CaliforniaCheez]

The deputy has a point and i add to it that you should not get your hopes set on any one player.

Even last year the Packers took their full 15 minutes while Ted was on the phone discussing a trade down. Not enough was offered.

You have to be flexible and trust that the staff has set up the draft board correctly.

I was wrong last April thinking Jolly and Culver were wasted picks and that
Moll might spend the season on the practice squad. I was very happy when the Pack selected Hodge.

The draft is like Christmas and opening the presents. Some are not what you expect and some that are not exciting wind up being used a lot. Be careful of what you ask to receive!!

[Charles Woodson]

The deputy has a point and i add to it that you should not get your hopes set on any one player.

Even last year the Packers took their full 15 minutes while Ted was on the phone discussing a trade down. Not enough was offered.

You have to be flexible and trust that the staff has set up the draft board correctly.

I was wrong last April thinking Jolly and Culver were wasted picks and that
Moll might spend the season on the practice squad. I was very happy when the Pack selected Hodge.

The draft is like Christmas and opening the presents. Some are not what you expect and some that are not exciting wind up being used a lot. Be careful of what you ask to receive!!

That last line is pretty true. I dont know i really like some of the people in the draft, for some reason my gut feeling tells me that Sidney rice is going to be good. If michael bush shows much progress and is back to normal at the combines, i wouldnt mind him. i had the chance to meet him and hes a very nice guy. Wasnt really impressed with Brian Brohm but thats a differnt story

[Joemailman]

Of all the top running backs, Michael Bush may be the least suited to run behind zone blocking. He does not get up to top speed very fast, and doesn't have great change of direction ability. I haven't seen him play, but from what I've read he sounds more like Ron Dayne than Ahman Green. He may be a fine player in another system, but probably not here.

[Charles Woodson]

Of all the top running backs, Michael Bush may be the least suited to run behind zone blocking. He does not get up to top speed very fast, and doesn't have great change of direction ability. I haven't seen him play, but from what I've read he sounds more like Ron Dayne than Ahman Green. He may be a fine player in another system, but probably not here.

im not real familar with ZBS, so basically we want someone quick small fast and swif?

[Lurker64]

im not real familar with ZBS, so basically we want someone quick small fast and swif?

Really, what the ZBS wants is someone who's smart (so probably not Lynch) and makes quick decisions and quick cuts. The ZBS RB has to be able to diagnose which hole to hit quickly, make that single adjustment quickly, and then run. It's really better to have a guy who makes quick decisions and is a student of the game than a guy who's a physical freak of nature. That's why Denver excels the system with 7th round backs, as opposed to top shelf talent at RB. Rather than the guy who jumps the highest, pick the smart back.

[Charles Woodson]

hes not extremely smart, but lorenzo booker struck me as quick... idk i still got alot to learn on schemes and im just throwing out names

[BallHawk]

hes not extremely smart, but lorenzo booker struck me as quick... idk i still got alot to learn on schemes and im just throwing out names

You don't learn unless you ask, so keep on throwing out names. Lurker did a very good job of describing the ZBS. The ideal weight for a ZBS RB is no taller than 6'1 and no more than 220. There are exceptions, but that is generally the size that you're gonna be looking for. So someone like Michael Bush or Tony Hunt is not someone that we would look to draft. Backs that could be a good fit for our scheme is people like Kenny Irons, Antonio Pittman, Brandon Jackson, and as you mentioned, Lorenzo Booker. Booker, however, might be too small to play in the NFL, regardless of the scheme.

[Charles Woodson]

hes not extremely smart, but lorenzo booker struck me as quick... idk i still got alot to learn on schemes and im just throwing out names

You don't learn unless you ask, so keep on throwing out names. Lurker did a very good job of describing the ZBS. The ideal weight for a ZBS RB is no taller than 6'1 and no more than 220. There are exceptions, but that is generally the size that you're gonna be looking for. So someone like Michael Bush or Tony Hunt is not someone that we would look to draft. Backs that could be a good fit for our scheme is people like Kenny Irons, Antonio Pittman, Brandon Jackson, and as you mentioned, Lorenzo Booker. Booker, however, might be too small to play in the NFL, regardless of the scheme.

unless booker bulks up right? also pitman is over 5'11 and is at 220, so what makes him a canidate for the zbs