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  • Sporting News : Tom Silverstein Packer report : 4/21/06

    Packers Team Report
    4/21/2006

    By Tom Silverstein
    Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel


    Though his role for next season remains totally up in the air, quarterback Aaron Rodgers is preparing to be the starter in offseason workouts. Rodgers is the main focus in coach Mike McCarthy's quarterbacks school and is receiving complete attention from McCarthy and quarterbacks coach Tom Clements. The goal is to clean up Rodgers' fundamentals and get him in tune with the different style offense McCarthy plans on installing. During the workout sessions and in minicamps, McCarthy wants to get a feel for what Rodgers can do outside of the pocket; Rogers will be tested on rollouts and scrambles. He was mostly a pocket passer in college. . . .

    The decision to part ways with wide receiver Terrence Murphy was a tough one. The 2005 second-round pick was one of the most promising players from that draft class and was probably going to be among the top three receivers on the team this year. But doctors discovered he had a narrow spinal column and the club decided it was too risky to put him on the field. Murphy still wants to play and might seek a job with another team. The club signed free agents Rod Gardner and Marc Boerigter, but neither has the long-term potential of Murphy. Considering the lack of depth at the receiver position in the draft, the club's only hope is to grab a sleeper in the later rounds and hope that NFL Europe receiver Chad Lucas can take a big step. . .

    Linebacker remains a position in flux. The club is trying to sign free agent LaVar Arrington but knows it's not a sure thing and continues to consider more modest options such as Saleem Rasheed and Barrett Green. All of the linebackers the club is considering are fast, weakside types who can chase sideline-to-sideline. The club doesn't necessarily need a physical giant such as Arrington to succeed in that scheme, but it does need speed. The linebackers have to be able to string running plays out as well as explode through gaps. . .

    Rumors continue to swirl about the possibility of the club trading disgruntled wide receiver Javon Walker, but unless G.M. Ted Thompson gets close to a first-round pick it's unlikely he'll deal him. The club doesn't want to set the precedent of letting unhappy players force their way out, but should a team make an offer he can't refuse, Thompson might pull the trigger. The problem is that Walker is coming off a torn ACL and only has one year left on his deal. An interested team would have to give up compensation and reward him with a hefty contract, all without knowing for sure about his playing status. Still, most personnel officials think Walker will recover and be a Pro Bowl-type player again.

    SCOUTING REPORT: Free-agent safety Marquand Manuel was signed to be the quarterback of the secondary. Manuel is more of an in-the-box player than he is a center fielder, and the club will have to make concessions for his lack of speed. But what Manuel lacks in cover ability he'll try to make up for in brains and leadership, which is something the club desperately needs in its secondary. Manuel will be able to position players where they need to be and make quick decisions on coverage changes. He should add to the team's run defense because of his ability to play near the line of scrimmage.

    STOCK RISING: The club feels good enough about nose tackle Colin Cole that it doesn't feel a need to re-sign Grady Jackson. Cole slowly has moved up the ladder and will share time with free agent Ryan Pickett in the middle of the defense. Cole is a fireplug who can hold the point on a fairly consistent basis. He won't blow up double-teams or consistently put pressure on the quarterback, but he knows how to use leverage to his advantage and won't make a lot of mental errors. He needs to shed blockers and find the ball more consistently.
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    Veteran free agents

    Pos. Arrivals '05 team
    QB Tom Arth IND
    WR Marc Boerigter KC
    K Billy Cundiff TB
    S Marquand Manuel SEA
    NT Ryan Pickett STL
    LB Ben Taylor CLE
    LB Tracy White JAC

    Pos. Departures '06 team
    RB Ran Carthon SEA
    WR Antonio Chatman CIN
    RB Tony Fisher STL
    C Mike Flanagan HOU
    LB John Leake ATL
    LB Paris Lenon DET
    K Ryan Longwell MIN
    QB Craig Nall BUF
    G Grey Ruegamer NYG
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    • #3
      ""Rumors continue to swirl about the possibility of the club trading disgruntled wide receiver Javon Walker, but unless G.M. Ted Thompson gets close to a first-round pick it's unlikely he'll deal him. The club doesn't want to set the precedent of letting unhappy players force their way out, but should a team make an offer he can't refuse, Thompson might pull the trigger. The problem is that Walker is coming off a torn ACL and only has one year left on his deal. An interested team would have to give up compensation and reward him with a hefty contract, all without knowing for sure about his playing status. Still, most personnel officials think Walker will recover and be a Pro Bowl-type player again. ""


      This is the right thing to do
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        ""Rumors continue to swirl about the possibility of the club trading disgruntled wide receiver Javon Walker, but unless G.M. Ted Thompson gets close to a first-round pick it's unlikely he'll deal him. The club doesn't want to set the precedent of letting unhappy players force their way out, but should a team make an offer he can't refuse, Thompson might pull the trigger. The problem is that Walker is coming off a torn ACL and only has one year left on his deal. An interested team would have to give up compensation and reward him with a hefty contract, all without knowing for sure about his playing status. Still, most personnel officials think Walker will recover and be a Pro Bowl-type player again. ""


        This is the right thing to do
        Agreed - I say we only make a trade if most of the injury risk is ignored (i.e., pre-injury state potential). If we got a #1 pick or a quality backup and a #2 or #3, we'd get additional value for the team. Sitting on Walker will teach him a lesson but ultimately cost the Packers in the end (no value, relationship problems, etc.). Get rid of him if you can!
        The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
        Vince Lombardi

        "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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        • #5
          Re: Sporting News : Tom Silverstein Packer report : 4/21/06

          Originally posted by motife
          Though his role for next season remains totally up in the air, quarterback Aaron Rodgers is preparing to be the starter in offseason workouts. Rodgers is the main focus in coach Mike McCarthy's quarterbacks school and is receiving complete attention from McCarthy and quarterbacks coach Tom Clements. The goal is to clean up Rodgers' fundamentals and get him in tune with the different style offense McCarthy plans on installing. During the workout sessions and in minicamps, McCarthy wants to get a feel for what Rodgers can do outside of the pocket; Rogers will be tested on rollouts and scrambles. He was mostly a pocket passer in college. . . .
          I guess I was expecting a decision from Brett by now (while I understood the above was possible). It really just sunk in just now. Remember last year how Brett was on this 'new workout pattern' focusing on speed/agility - he wasn't there for Rodgers. Then people asked him, "Why aren't you mentoring Rodgers?" He piped back that it wasn't his job. So - you really have Rodgers learning from Brett while he had -arguably- his worst season. Brett doesn't like to practice/mentor folks and really is focused on game prep and Sundays.

          Is Brett just being lazy - not in a bad way? Football is his life from Aug-Jan (hopefully) - I kinda feel like he's just chilling and letting TT and M3 better evaluate Rodgers as a starter. He'll be back.
          The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
          Vince Lombardi

          "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Fosco33
            Sitting on Walker will teach him a lesson but ultimately cost the Packers in the end (no value, relationship problems, etc.). Get rid of him if you can!
            I agree. I'm not sure there are lessons to be taught or learned, tho. Walker's situation has been unusual the last couple years.

            I just wish his contract dispute didn't go public last year, TT should have worked-out an extension in February 2005. I wish Brett Favre hadn't made public statements against Walker. And I wish Thompson and Walker had privately worked-out a trade this offseason. All parties have lost big time with the public posturing.

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            • #7
              Don't get rid of Walker just to get rid of him. Get value or don't trade.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Don't get rid of Walker just to get rid of him. Get value or don't trade.
                Harvey... What would happen if say we didnt trade him, but slapped the franchise tag on him?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Don't get rid of Walker just to get rid of him. Get value or don't trade.

                  If Brad Childress was our coach, I'd be looking forward to the glowing tribute he'd pay to Wonderlic on the way out of town - ala Daunte Culpepper.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nick Barnett
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                    Don't get rid of Walker just to get rid of him. Get value or don't trade.
                    Harvey... What would happen if say we didnt trade him, but slapped the franchise tag on him?
                    Depends what he does this year. If he's a malcontent who plays 6 games and doesn't prove he's back to his old self, it would be stupid to tie up $7-8M/year on him.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #11
                      The Franchise Tag threat against Javon Walker is pretty ridiculous. You would first go through another carnival next fall, then give him 10M or so upfront for his next contract, all the while generating publicity projecting G.B. that has to force players to stay there.

                      All to keep the rights on somebody who doesn't want to play on your team.

                      TT has only one option - unload Walker to highest bidder.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        The Franchise Tag threat against Javon Walker is pretty ridiculous. You would first go through another carnival next fall, then give him 10M or so upfront for his next contract, all the while generating publicity projecting G.B. that has to force players to stay there.

                        All to keep the rights on somebody who doesn't want to play on your team.

                        TT has only one option - unload Walker to highest bidder.
                        It's not ridiculous; if he excels and wants out you franchise him for trade purposes. You then get > than a 2nd rounder.
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Don't get rid of Walker just to get rid of him. Get value or don't trade.
                          I didn't mean release him. I said if there was a high trade value offer that it shouldn't be passed up. Given the amount of public loss already, it would be better to get rid of him now (trade) for value.
                          The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                          Vince Lombardi

                          "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bretsky
                            It's not ridiculous; if he excels and wants out you franchise him for trade purposes. You then get > than a 2nd rounder.
                            Do you see Walker excelling as a GB Packer next fall?

                            Walker's value is not going to be high in 2007 because of two crap years. Franchise tag would likely mean Packers are stuck with malcontent player. Makes no sense. Franchise tag boxes the PAckers in.

                            Packers need to SEPERATE from Javon Walker, not further entangle themselves. First rule when you find yourself in a hole: stop digging.

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                            • #15
                              Denver and Ashley Lelie seem ready to part ways. A Walker/Lelie trade might make sense. Lelie is inconsistent, but he is a deep threat who can keep opposing defenses honest.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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