ESPN anti-Favre article

[b bulldog]

I almost forgot, I'd love to see Brett retire at years end with a Super Bowl win and a MVP type of a season. I get really sick of the retirement garbage as most do but I'd love to see him go out a winner!

[PlantPage55]

But if he didn't play this year, then we'd be starting an unproven guy in a year that we could be great ALSO!!!

Basically, it makes no difference WHEN Favre leaves - Rodgers is going to be uncertain the next year. I don't understand everyone's obsession with getting Rodgers his start. It DOESN'T MATTER.

[b bulldog]

They are a year away my friend

[PlantPage55]

We don't know that. There is no way of knowing that. The Redskins have been a year away for 3 years or so now.

The fact is, a truly great team - one that is ready for Super bowl contention - will be good enough to plop Rodgers in. Just as Rivers in San Diego, or even like Grossman in Chicago (and have the defense to fall back on in that case).

And if you don't think Rodgers can be as good as Rivers...well, then I would think we want to hold on to Favre as long as possible...no matter what.

[b bulldog]

Rodgers could be better than Brett already in a real game situation, I doubt it but you don't know cause he hasn't been given the chance. I don't really know about being a year away but my feeling is that they won't do quite as well in 07 as many think they will. The Redskins are a bad example, just because you buy top FA's, that doesn't mean your going to succeed. Basicly, that means just the oppositte. The best way to build is through the draft and than sprinkling in some UFA's. Rivers also has much more talent than Rodgers and we have nobody close to Tomlinson or Merriman not to mention Gates.

[PlantPage55]

Okay, but Rodgers should be able to get most of the development he needs sitting behind Brett Favre. Carson Palmer did it and Phillip Rivers did it.

If Rodgers was anywhere NEAR Favre, we would have heard about it. He would have showed me something while I was at training camp last year. And he may have even beat Brett Fave out DURING camp or pre-season.

We are going to sorely miss Favre when he's gone. He easily plays on par with any QB in the NFL besides Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Did you watch the playoffs? The QB play was AWFUL...from everyone.

Good QBs that missed the playoffs (Carson Palmer) had certain games where they looked pathetic as well.

Basically, Favre is our best chance. We win with him next year, and if we get close, and he believes we can do it again. He WILL come back. He KNOWS he can play and he wants to be a winner. So if we are headed in that direction of greatness - we will have him in '08 and we can be GREAT then.

If Favre did retire this last year...Do you honestly think that if Rodgers isn't as good as Rivers coming out of the gate - that we can then all of a sudden be great and get to the bowl in '08? I highly doubt it, unless our D is good enough to overcome. In this case, it doesn't matter whether its Brett or Aaron - so why not see a legend get his due?

I just don't think it makes sense ANY time you lose a legend!

[Joemailman]

The fact that Favre played in 2006 accelerated the process of getting the Packers back to being a Super Bowl contender, even if Favre will not get to enter the Promised Land. Starting 3-4 rookies on offense every week got these guys lots of valuable experience which will pay off in the near future. You think MM would have tried that with Rodgers at QB? No way. But they knew Favre could hold that situation together.

[PlantPage55]

The fact that Favre played in 2006 accelerated the process of getting the Packers back to being a Super Bowl contender, even if Favre will not get to enter the Promised Land. Starting 3-4 rookies on offense every week got these guys lots of valuable experience which will pay off in the near future. You think MM would have tried that with Rodgers at QB? No way. But they knew Favre could hold that situation together.

Yes. Yes yes yes. I honestly think that we MAY not have won A SINGLE game with Rodgers at QB last year. He would have constantly been under fire due to that line! He has no idea how to side step blitzes - and Favre is a master of that. That is NO way to learn to play QB in the NFL.

[b bulldog]

tHAT IS A GREAT POINT jOE BUT many coaches also like to see a young QB takes his knocks along with the young team he will be leading.

[b bulldog]

These are two philosophies that both show they can make great QB's, ask Payton Manning and Troy Aikman. This shows both ways do work but we differ on the results in GB.

[Pacopete4]

rodgers took one knock and was out for the count this season.. the end