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  • #16
    Originally posted by NickCollins
    The 5th pick is a nice place to be so both players are great. If I'm a gambling man and I want the bigger upside I take Davis. If I want the sure thing I take Hawk.

    If it was me picking I think I'd take Davis when push came to shove.
    Trade down... No questions about it. Then take whoever falls to you.

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    • #17
      actually bulldog, and i know this is all just draft talk, but the Saints have said if they can't get a trade down, they would consider Hawk the best "value" for their team at #2. So he has been talked up that high.

      If you've ever seen my typing, you know my love for AJ Hawk. I just want a guy who was a 3 time all big ten, 2 time all american...maybe the best LB coming out of college since Urlacher. He's the most ready to play right now out of almost all of the top 10 rookies. And that is exactly what we need right now, a guy who is the starter on day 1.
      "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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      • #18
        Hawk is not the best defensive player in this draft. Neither is Williams.

        The best is Mike Huff

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
          Hawk is not the best defensive player in this draft. Neither is Williams.

          The best is Mike Huff
          I like huff, and he'd be a GREAT option, if the packers trade down. He's not worth pick #5.

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          • #20
            Michael Huff was maybe a 1st round pick before the Rose Bowl, and then after he became a top 15, then combine he became a top 10. he's not the top defensive player by a long shot. He's VERY very good though. i am not trying to put him down, cause i want either Hawk at #5, or Huff somewhere else.
            "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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            • #21
              Originally posted by retailguy
              Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
              Hawk is not the best defensive player in this draft. Neither is Williams.

              The best is Mike Huff
              I like huff, and he'd be a GREAT option, if the packers trade down. He's not worth pick #5.
              I dont think the 49ers, Raiders or Cardinals will be willing switch picks with the Packers. Regardless, Huff is the most complete d player and deserves to be drafted #5.

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              • #22
                Huff is not the most complete defensive player in the draft.
                "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                • #23
                  Huff is a great player, but it's hard to see the Packers getting him. I don't think TT will take him at #5, and you have to stay in the top 8 to get him. Detroit will probably take him at #9 if he is available.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ND72
                    Huff is not the most complete defensive player in the draft.
                    Who is then? The only player in this draft who can blitz like Joey Porter AND hit like Roy Williams AND cover like Champ Bailey is Huff.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by route25
                      Huff is a great player, but it's hard to see the Packers getting him. I don't think TT will take him at #5, and you have to stay in the top 8 to get him. Detroit will probably take him at #9 if he is available.
                      Trust me, Huff will be better than Ed Reed. Deserves to go #5.

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                      • #26
                        I was listening to ESPN radio & they said the Texans are talking contract numbers with Mario. They might be using Mario to get Bush to lower his demands but who knows? Nothing will suprise me on Saturday.


                        By Adam Schefter
                        Special to NFL.com


                        Adam Schefter's "Around the League" reports and commentaries can be seen regularly on NFL Total Access.

                        (April 17, 2006) -- For the first time, there is legitimate reason to think that USC running back Reggie Bush is not going to be wind up in Houston, the city that currently holds the No. 1 overall pick.


                        Reggie Bush could still go to Houston, or another team, at No. 1
                        This does not come from one source or from one team. This comes from multiple sources, from across the league, without any agenda to push.

                        The mounting evidence includes this:

                        As of Monday, the Texans had not had any contract discussions with Bush and his representatives. None.

                        Yet the Texans have approached North Carolina State defensive end Mario Williams, trying to see if he would be receptive to discussing a deal.

                        But the evidence goes beyond contracts. When Bush was in Houston, a certain segment of the organization never introduced itself to the running back. This might not be unusual, but if the organization was convinced it was taking a certain player, it should be rolling out the welcome mat with everyone trying to make the player feel as at home as possible. This, according to those who know Bush, did not happen.

                        Then there is the simple and significant matter of need. Within the past year, the Texans signed running back Domanick Davis to a long-term extension. They also drafted wide receiver Jerome Mathis, the return man who went to the Pro Bowl during his rookie season. The Texans know they have a dependable running back and return man, the two spots Bush fills.

                        Houston's greater need is at defensive end, and, just as much, at left tackle, a position that could be filled by Virginia's D'Brickashaw Ferguson, who is expected to go in the top four picks.

                        Yet whether Houston winds up with Williams or Ferguson is unknown. What is known is that Bush no longer is a lock for Houston.

                        As a person in the Bush camp said Monday, "Do I have a feeling that Reggie is going to Houston? No, I have a feeling that he's not."
                        Thanks Ted!

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                        • #27
                          They have two first round DE's on the roster already and no LB's. Hawk fills the biggets need for the Saints.
                          Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                          • #28
                            That being said, bet the Saints STILL PICK MARIO!
                            Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                            • #29
                              I think the best thing to do would be to trade down and pick up an extra second rounder. If Leinart is sitting there at #5, somebody ought to be licking their chops to move up, and if TT can drop down only two or three spots and pick up an extra high second rounder, of if he drops further and gets a windfall of picks, it'd be a good move.

                              Too much is made of that first round pick. Way too much. It's understandable - the media doesn't really cover the players who will be drafted much past the second, maybe third round. So all the focus is on that first round bunch. But Driver was a seventh rounder, as was Tauscher, Rivera was a sixth, Favre was had for a mid-first (not even a top ten pick) and was originally drafted in the second, Clifton was a second, Kampman a fifth, and so on. If TT can stock up on picks it would be good for the franchise. It won't give fans a big name to drool over, but in two to three years it will pay off for this team.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                                Originally posted by route25
                                Huff is a great player, but it's hard to see the Packers getting him. I don't think TT will take him at #5, and you have to stay in the top 8 to get him. Detroit will probably take him at #9 if he is available.
                                Trust me, Huff will be better than Ed Reed. Deserves to go #5.

                                You've seen Huff play 2 times; better than Ed Reed ?? Nobody has even mentioned selecting Huff ahead of Green Bay. Better than Ed Reed...trust me ?? You must be smoking some strong stuff lately.

                                Cheers,
                                B
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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