Debunking Mario Williams

[b bulldog]

Reed is a stud, period.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You've seen Huff play 2 times; better than Ed Reed ?? Nobody has even mentioned selecting Huff ahead of Green Bay. Better than Ed Reed...trust me ?? You must be smoking some strong stuff lately.

Cheers,
B

2 games, plus Huff's highlight clip, plus stuff from ESPN. Watching the clip, you'll notice that Huff hits like a missile and make plays like Deion Sanders. Reed doesnt hit/tackle as hard or as good as Huff. Reed is also not as fast. Reed was drafted late in the 1st rd when he came out; Huff is being projected as a top 10 pick. That, and Huff's talent speaks volume.

You heard it here first, Huff will be better.

[Bretsky]

You've seen Huff play 2 times; better than Ed Reed ?? Nobody has even mentioned selecting Huff ahead of Green Bay. Better than Ed Reed...trust me ?? You must be smoking some strong stuff lately.

Cheers,
B

2 games, plus Huff's highlight clip, plus stuff from ESPN. Watching the clip, you'll notice that Huff hits like a missile and make plays like Deion Sanders. Reed doesnt hit/tackle as hard or as good as Huff. Reed is also not as fast. Reed was drafted late in the 1st rd when he came out; Huff is being projected as a top 10 pick. That, and Huff's talent speaks volume.

You heard it here first, Huff will be better.

You are serious ? ESPN could put a great highlight clip together for a lot of average players that would make guys that don't get drafted look like first rounders.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You are serious ? ESPN could put a great highlight clip together for a lot of average players that would make guys that don't get drafted look like first rounders.

Time will tell (regarding Huff), but there is a 99.9% chance time will prove me right.

[ND72]

any player can look like a monster because of ESPN's clips. when i was being recruited, coach told me he'd make the tape for me so it's done right. I looked like a god on the field because of how he set the film up. Clips are going to be their best 5 or 6 plays from the year.

[Tarlam!]

I looked like a god on the field because of how he set the film up.

And, did it get you recruited?

[Scott Campbell]

Time will tell (regarding Huff), but there is a 99.9% chance time will prove me right.

What are the odds that you're right about the Polar Bear?

That's a great nickname for him by the way.

[Bretsky]

I looked like a god on the field because of how he set the film up.

And, did it get you recruited?

If memory serves me right, ND played OL at Winona State in college

[Partial]

i'd say Huff is gonna be an above average safety but he hits too high to be a polamalu and I have a hunch he's overrated like most of the high texas picks over the years (except for VY)

[Deputy Nutz]

I love it how excited Bulldog gets when somebody puts down Maria Williams, and hypes Hawk! You gotta love his "Big Blue" Pride.

The funny thing about the combine, is that there is almost no football being played, maybe a throwing drill, a catching drill, but no one is taking on a left tackle or blitzing between a guard and a tackle. Mario Williams like all the athletes that performed at the combine specifically trained to do well in those drills. Does Mario really run a 4.6 forty on the field? Does he really use the strength that he used at the combine on the field? The fact is he was benched for a game because of lack of consistent effort. While on C-E a gave a break down of William's stats per game, and the facts were that he dominated against inferior competition.

I find the numbers at the combine valuable only when the effort put out by a player at the combine proves their play on the field. What Williams did at the combine has you scratching your head wondering why he didn't have 20 sacks and 35 tackles for a loss.

The Packers need a player at #5, they simply cannot afford a bust, regardless of potential.

[b bulldog]

Good points and as I've posted before, Mario does have some red flags. That being said, in terms of times ect, the only ones that matter are at the combine where all these athletes are on the same surface. We all can spin about prodays but where they all performed(not USC) on the same surface, those are the legit results and Hawk's 40 time was disappointing. He is a good player just not an elite prospect but in the end, the good player could be way better than the elite prospect. I think Mario,Fergy and Bush are the THREE STUDS IN THIS DRAFT AND I AM FAR FROM BEING THE ONLY ONE WHO THIMKS SO. 've yet to read where any local beat writer is overly enthused at the prospect of picking Hawk at 5. These are all just opinions but there is a reason why Mario will more than likely be off the board by 5 while Hawk will still be there.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Time will tell (regarding Huff), but there is a 99.9% chance time will prove me right.

What are the odds that you're right about the Polar Bear?

That's a great nickname for him by the way.

Hey, I saw what was about to come when I called for Thompson's head two months into his tenture last year (although i did not admit it, out of pride, predicting a 14-2 season because I believed in Mike Sherman). I'm starting to look like a genius now.

[b bulldog]

One more thing Nutz, why aren't you clamoring for Young when on paper,film and leadership, Young has everyone beat hands down. He went into the shoe and beat the eyes along with singlehandedly beating SC. He was the most dominant player in college football last season. I did say college ball and that is the reason why some players are thought to be an even better player/prospect at the next level because the pro game is vastly different than college. One thing that helps Hawk is that he is a SR, Mario is only 20 years old. I do thinkl Hawk will have the most impact as a rookie of the top 8 picks but I'm betting by the halfway point of their second season, Mario will be the Superstar.

[RashanGary]

Mario is going to need 2 full seasons before he's even considered a superstar IMO. If he could not dominate against average Tackles in college he'll get eaten alive against Tauscher and the NFL OT's.

[Charles Woodson]

As crazy as it sounds, we need Ferguson if we stay at 5 (best overall value by most experts opinions), but more importantly, we need to trade down and get more picks. We DO NOT need AJ Hawk at 5. Maybe at 10 or 12, but NOT at 5. If he doesn't last that long, too bad.

Why Ferguson. This is what i dont get with everyone. Look yes. Ferguson would be great, but we dont need him. We have good tackles in clifton and Tausher. Especially if we could get Davin Joesph in the 2nd that would make an instant impack. We need Hawk. My favorite situation would be trading Walker and ethier a 2 or 3 for Broncos #15. Yes i know it might be not enough and something like that but if we get the 15, then we could get a reciver to replace Walker like Chad Jackson.