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    Barnett, Packers open to extension

    By Pete Dougherty
    pdougher@greenbaypressgazette.com

    The Green Bay Packers are open to extending linebacker Nick Barnett's contract this offseason and have had amiable preliminary talks with his agent.

    However, the chances of finishing a deal anytime soon depend in large part on Pro Bowl linebacker Lance Briggs signing a long-term deal with Chicago early this offseason, and also the kind of deal General Manager Ted Thompson and Barnett are willing to accept based off that.

    Barnett has one year left on his rookie contract at a salary of $691,000, but he has wanted to extend that since last season.

    The Packers, like many NFL teams recently, appear more willing to be proactive regarding extensions for core players who have a full season or more left on their deals. Barnett's agent, Charles Price, has been talking regularly with Packers Vice President Andrew Brandt since late last year.

    "We have common starting ground in that they'd like to have Nick for the long haul, and he'd like to be there for the long haul," Price said Tuesday. "That's pretty much all we've established at this point. There's an incredible starting position, and after talking to Andrew Brandt, we both feel good about working together to get this done."

    Part of the market for linebackers was set late last year, when Minnesota's E.J. Henderson signed a five-year, $25 million deal in December that included a $10 million signing bonus. Barnett surely will want a better deal.

    The questions are, how much better, and how close to the more lucrative deal Briggs probably will sign this offseason?

    Briggs, 26, has become one of the NFL's top linebackers and was selected for his second Pro Bowl this season. He'll be a free agent on March 2, but the Bears are trying to sign him to a long-term deal before then, and if they can't, they're expected to use their franchise tag on him. That would guarantee Briggs a $7.2 million salary this year, though the Bears would try to reach a long-term agreement sometime in the offseason.

    Barnett, who turns 26 in May, doesn't have Briggs' credentials — he hasn't been to a Pro Bowl — but he's one of the Packers' best young players and a core member of the defense. He's also proven to be durable. In four seasons as their middle linebacker, he has missed only one game. Last season, he broke his hand against New England on Nov. 19, then sat out the following week at Seattle before playing the rest of the season wearing a cast.

    With the salary cap going up about $7 million this year to about $109 million, salaries for core players will continue to escalate. Barnett will have to weigh his desire to get paid similarly to Briggs against the risk of sustaining an injury, whether he could get a Briggs-type deal in free agency next year and whether the Packers might use their franchise tag on him. It's difficult to know how much guaranteed money Briggs will get if and when he signs a long-term deal, but a decent guess is the $15 million range.

    "If things pan out and everybody gets a good look at the lay of the land and what free agency could bring for a guy like Lance Briggs this year," Price said, "then we'll probably be able to say, 'Look, if we got to this point next year you could make a pretty good argument Nick is going to get Lance Briggs money.'"

    Brandt acknowledged having ongoing conversations with Price but would not comment further.

    Price repeatedly expressed optimism the sides can reach agreement but said Barnett won't stage any offseason protests if they don't. Cornerback Al Harris, for instance, sat out all voluntary minicamps and organized team activities last year to signal to Thompson that he wants a contract extension this offseason.

    "I don't think so," Price said when asked if Barnett is considering a similar maneuver. "There's a contract in place. Whether it's perfect or imperfect, he signed it, and it's coming up on its last year. Nick's not going to walk away from it, he'll honor it. If it gets reworked, that's awesome, and in the event that it doesn't, it doesn't change anything."



    I know Barnett his detractors, but he is a very good player who I think has benefited from the coaching of Winston Moss. He is now entering what should be the prime of his career. It would be a huge mistake to let him go, and I'm confident TT won't let that happen.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

  • #2
    Article already posted under Harris and Barnett. I do agree with you though. Barnett needs to stay.

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    • #3
      Barnett needs to get extended, and before Briggs breaks the bank!
      My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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      • #4
        We need Barnett on this team. He has his critics but he is above average and is still improving. Get him locked up, Ted.
        "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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        • #5
          My guess:

          6 years 38 million with 14 gauranteed.


          Edit: Sadly I think think this is lowball.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #6
            Re: Barnett, Packers Talking

            Originally posted by Joemailman
            "I don't think so," Price said when asked if Barnett is considering a similar maneuver. "There's a contract in place. Whether it's perfect or imperfect, he signed it, and it's coming up on its last year. Nick's not going to walk away from it, he'll honor it. If it gets reworked, that's awesome, and in the event that it doesn't, it doesn't change anything."
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            Pay the man 5% more than he's worth just for the posture his agent is taking regarding his contract responsibility. That's the best suck-up to the GM job I've ever seen.

            Of course he's not worth anything close to Briggs type money. But don't feel bad for Nick - he'll get his.

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            • #7
              Somehow the Queens always fuck us E.J. 's contract seems fair for Barnett problem is E.J. got overpaid now to keep Barnett he's gonna want QB type money sorry he is not worth it.

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              • #8
                That ain't QB type money anymore. Salaries keep going up. Last year, Aaron Kampman got more than $5M/year with a huge bonus, and his career high for sacks was 6.5 at that point. Not many people thought he had Pro Bowl potential. Now, that deal looks like a bargain. This year, the cap has gone up another $7M for each team.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • #9
                  Lock him up.

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                  • #10
                    To let Barnett go now after the team has invested 4 seasons in him would be far worse then overpaying a lil and like HW said, it aint really overpaying by today's standards.

                    TT is not gonna want his high draft pick Hawk struggling next season and not having Barnett, who teams up great with Hawk, would increase the odds of that happening.

                    If it aint broke, dont fix it!!!

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                    • #11
                      I don't know if you can say the Packers have "invested" four years in him... we've had 1 year of average play from him (his rookie year); 2 years of lousy play - his being responsible for gargantuan holes for RB's to run thru, missed tackles, bad angles, hitting like Mary Poppins, etc; and, 1 year slightly above average (this past year)...

                      He has a 12 gauge mouth, but the hitting power of a pea shooter... he isn't worth anything more than a mid-level contract, but it looks like TT is going to pony up the $$$, and our soft defense will remain soft.

                      Minnesota wildly overpaid for Henderson, and Barnett isn't worthy of carrying Briggs' jock... using those two guys as a gauge for Barnett is a mistake.
                      wist

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                      • #12
                        Nick

                        We can debate what he's worth forever, but the fact is we have nothing better. Sadly, an over-paid Barnett is better than no Barnett.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Nick

                          Originally posted by Packnut
                          We can debate what he's worth forever, but the fact is we have nothing better. Sadly, an over-paid Barnett is better than no Barnett.
                          This is what I've come to accept. Maybe we get lucky and hit on a MLB in the draft, or Hodge comes back this year and doesnt play like he's blind.
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                            That ain't QB type money anymore. Salaries keep going up. Last year, Aaron Kampman got more than $5M/year with a huge bonus, and his career high for sacks was 6.5 at that point. Not many people thought he had Pro Bowl potential. Now, that deal looks like a bargain. This year, the cap has gone up another $7M for each team.
                            2005 QB

                            Player Team Base Salary Sign Bonus Other Bonus Total Salary Cap Value
                            Favre, Brett Packers $ 6,500,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 1,000,000 $ 9,500,000 $ 10,133,333
                            Harrington, Joey Lions $ 4,950,000 $ 0 $ 1,050,000 $ 6,000,000 $ 8,543,750
                            Culpepper, Daunte Vikings $ 540,000 $ 0 $ 6,502,090 $ 7,042,090 $ 8,463,655
                            Manning, Peyton Colts $ 665,000 $ 0 $ 3,520 $ 668,520 $ 8,435,186
                            Brady, Tom Patriots $ 1,000,000 $ 14,500,000 $ 154,180 $ 15,654,180 $ 8,427,930
                            Brees, Drew Chargers $ 8,078,000 $ 0 $ 4,070 $ 8,082,070 $ 8,082,070
                            Vick, Michael Falcons $ 600,000 $ 22,500,000 $ 2,750 $ 23,102,750 $ 7,995,607
                            McNabb, Donovan Eagles $ 4,000,000 $ 0 $ 1,210 $ 4,001,210 $ 7,862,265
                            Carr, David Texans $ 5,500,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 5,504,400 $ 7,808,566
                            Brooks, Aaron Saints $ 5,500,000 $ 0 $ 250,000 $ 5,750,000 $ 7,733,333
                            Green, Trent Chiefs $ 4,700,000 $ 0 $ 300,000 $ 5,000,000 $ 7,298,808
                            McNair, Steve Titans $ 765,000 $ 6,735,010 $ 1,760 $ 7,501,770 $ 7,144,179
                            Hasselbeck, Matt Seahawks $ 2,000,000 $ 16,000,000 $ 1,005,280 $ 19,005,280 $ 6,205,280
                            Pennington, Chad Jets $ 1,000,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 0 $ 3,000,000 $ 6,000,000
                            Palmer, Carson Bengals $ 3,750,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 3,750,000 $ 5,982,758
                            Rivers, Philip Chargers $ 305,000 $ 6,625,000 $ 4,840 $ 6,934,840 $ 4,859,840
                            Roethlisberger, Ben Steelers $ 305,000 $ 7,237,500 $ 1,956,340 $ 9,498,840 $ 4,225,090
                            Warner, Kurt Cardinals $ 2,000,000 $ 0 $ 2,004,290 $ 4,004,290 $ 4,004,290
                            Manning, Eli Giants $ 305,000 $ 9,000,000 $ 0 $ 9,305,000 $ 3,760,000
                            Feeley, AJ Dolphins $ 190,588 $ 0 $ 1,005,000 $ 1,195,588 $ 3,595,588
                            Collins, Kerry Raiders $ 765,000 $ 5,255,000 $ 2,200 $ 6,022,200 $ 3,414,866
                            Plummer, Jake Broncos $ 665,000 $ 6,760,000 $ 205,200 $ 7,630,200 $ 3,222,200
                            Bulger, Marc Rams $ 545,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 549,400 $ 3,008,400
                            Smith, Alex 49ers $ 500,000 $ 1,000,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 3,500,000 $ 2,700,000
                            Delhomme, Jake Panthers $ 665,000 $ 5,000,000 $ 0 $ 5,665,000 $ 2,681,666
                            Bledsoe, Drew Cowboys $ 2,000,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 4,620 $ 4,004,620 $ 2,671,286
                            Boller, Kyle Ravens $ 1,470,000 $ 0 $ 3,080 $ 1,473,080 $ 2,584,330
                            Brunell, Mark Redskins $ 765,000 $ 0 $ 240,280 $ 1,005,280 $ 2,438,613
                            Leftwich, Byron Jaguars $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 50,000 $ 430,000 $ 2,207,665
                            Kitna, Jon Bengals $ 1,000,000 $ 0 $ 1,320 $ 1,001,320 $ 2,188,820
                            Garcia, Jeff Lions $ 800,000 $ 1,200,000 $ 4,400 $ 2,004,400 $ 2,004,400
                            Wright, Anthony Ravens $ 1,000,000 $ 0 $ 2,970 $ 1,002,970 $ 1,752,970
                            Ramsey, Patrick Redskins $ 455,000 $ 1,147,000 $ 5,610 $ 1,607,610 $ 1,654,110
                            Grossman, Rex Bears $ 465,000 $ 0 $ 4,290 $ 469,290 $ 1,525,123
                            Weinke, Chris Panthers $ 1,200,000 $ 0 $ 125,000 $ 1,325,000 $ 1,521,177
                            McCown, Josh Cardinals $ 1,430,000 $ 0 $ 4,730 $ 1,434,730 $ 1,434,730
                            Dilfer, Trent Browns $ 800,000 $ 2,100,000 $ 104,730 $ 3,004,730 $ 1,429,730
                            Losman, J.P. Bills $ 305,000 $ 4,170,000 $ 6,160 $ 4,481,160 $ 1,417,410
                            Griese, Brian Buccaneers $ 665,000 $ 3,000,000 $ 4,510 $ 3,669,510 $ 1,402,843
                            Maddox, Tommy Steelers $ 750,000 $ 0 $ 1,760 $ 751,760 $ 1,351,760
                            Rattay, Tim 49ers $ 421,324 $ 0 $ 109,550 $ 530,874 $ 1,330,482
                            Johnson, Brad Vikings $ 1,000,000 $ 1,200,000 $ 12,750 $ 2,212,750 $ 1,312,750
                            Volek, Billy Titans $ 850,000 $ 0 $ 5,390 $ 855,390 $ 1,295,392
                            Banks, Tony Texans $ 850,000 $ 800,000 $ 3,520 $ 1,653,520 $ 1,253,520
                            Frerotte, Gus Dolphins $ 800,000 $ 500,000 $ 200,000 $ 1,500,000 $ 1,250,000
                            Bouman, Todd Saints $ 750,000 $ 0 $ 25,000 $ 775,000 $ 1,193,333
                            Holcomb, Kelly Bills $ 665,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 4,510 $ 2,669,510 $ 1,169,510
                            Collins, Todd Chiefs $ 1,000,000 $ 0 $ 100,000 $ 1,100,000 $ 1,165,000
                            Rodgers, Aaron Packers $ 230,000 $ 1,500,000 $ 620,000 $ 2,350,000 $ 1,150,000
                            Campbell, Jason Redskins $ 230,000 $ 140,000 $ 820,000 $ 1,190,000 $ 1,078,000
                            Garrard, David Jaguars $ 455,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 3,960 $ 2,458,960 $ 1,064,960
                            McMahon, Mike Eagles $ 540,000 $ 0 $ 403,080 $ 943,080 $ 943,080
                            Detmer, Koy Eagles $ 690,000 $ 0 $ 2,310 $ 692,310 $ 854,810
                            Fiedler, Jay Jets $ 730,000 $ 500,000 $ 0 $ 1,230,000 $ 830,000
                            Tuiasosopo, Marques Raiders $ 540,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 544,400 $ 794,400
                            Flutie, Doug Patriots $ 765,000 $ 25,000 $ 2,970 $ 792,970 $ 792,970
                            Rattay, Tim Buccaneers $ 772,426 $ 0 $ 0 $ 772,426 $ 772,426
                            Huard, Damon Chiefs $ 665,000 $ 0 $ 3,850 $ 668,850 $ 668,850
                            Hill, Shaun Vikings $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 661,720 $ 661,720
                            Nall, Craig Packers $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 660,400 $ 660,400
                            Hasselbeck, Tim Giants $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 2,090 $ 658,090 $ 658,090
                            Brown, Travis Colts $ 540,000 $ 171,000 $ 6,160 $ 717,160 $ 631,660
                            Rosenfels, Sage Dolphins $ 575,000 $ 30,000 $ 25,000 $ 630,000 $ 630,000
                            Romo, Tony Cowboys $ 380,000 $ 300,000 $ 25,280 $ 705,280 $ 555,280
                            Ragone, Dave Texans $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 380,000 $ 526,668
                            Simms, Christopher Buccaneers $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 384,840 $ 519,008
                            Wallace, Seneca Seahawks $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 385,720 $ 489,054
                            Martin, Jamie Rams $ 765,000 $ 15,000 $ 14,290 $ 794,290 $ 484,290
                            Detmer, Ty Falcons $ 765,000 $ 25,000 $ 1,650 $ 791,650 $ 481,650
                            Matthews, Shane Bills $ 765,000 $ 25,000 $ 1,540 $ 791,540 $ 481,540
                            Blake, Jeff Bears $ 765,000 $ 10,000 $ 0 $ 775,000 $ 465,000
                            Schaub, Matt Falcons $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 311,160 $ 459,493
                            Frye, Charlie Browns $ 230,000 $ 800,000 $ 0 $ 1,030,000 $ 430,000
                            Batch, Charlie Steelers $ 540,000 $ 25,000 $ 4,400 $ 569,400 $ 428,235
                            Walter, Andrew Raiders $ 230,000 $ 985,000 $ 0 $ 1,215,000 $ 427,000
                            Bollinger, Brooks Jets $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 380,000 $ 400,000
                            Testaverde, Vinny Jets $ 630,000 $ 25,000 $ 0 $ 655,000 $ 399,706
                            Dorsey, Ken 49ers $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 5,830 $ 385,830 $ 395,914
                            Greene, David Seahawks $ 230,000 $ 635,000 $ 0 $ 865,000 $ 388,750
                            Kittner, Kurt Bears $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 770 $ 380,770 $ 380,770
                            Feeley, AJ Chargers $ 349,412 $ 0 $ 0 $ 349,412 $ 349,412
                            Orton, Kyle Bears $ 230,000 $ 458,000 $ 0 $ 688,000 $ 344,500
                            LeFors, Stefan Panthers $ 230,000 $ 424,000 $ 0 $ 654,000 $ 336,000
                            Sorgi, Jim Colts $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 309,840 $ 330,240
                            Navarre, John Cardinals $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 5,170 $ 310,170 $ 325,003
                            Pickett, Cody 49ers $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 5,830 $ 310,830 $ 323,330
                            Gray, Quinn Jaguars $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 311,160 $ 311,160
                            Henson, Drew Cowboys $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 309,840 $ 309,840
                            McCown, Luke Buccaneers $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 3,190 $ 308,190 $ 308,190
                            Krenzel, Craig Bengals $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 305,000 $ 305,000
                            Orlovsky, Dan Lions $ 230,000 $ 131,400 $ 0 $ 361,400 $ 273,800
                            McPherson, Adrian Saints $ 230,000 $ 125,775 $ 0 $ 355,775 $ 271,925
                            Van Pelt, Bradlee Broncos $ 230,000 $ 0 $ 25,000 $ 255,000 $ 255,000
                            Cassel, Matt Patriots $ 230,000 $ 54,000 $ 0 $ 284,000 $ 243,500
                            Palmer, Jesse 49ers $ 285,882 $ 0 $ 0 $ 285,882 $ 240,882
                            Lorenzen, Jared Giants $ 230,000 $ 0 $ 4,730 $ 234,730 $ 239,730
                            Fitzpatrick, Ryan Rams $ 230,000 $ 28,250 $ 0 $ 258,250 $ 239,416
                            O'Sullivan, JT Vikings $ 187,353 $ 0 $ 0 $ 187,353 $ 214,118
                            Anderson, Derek Browns $ 202,941 $ 0 $ 0 $ 202,941 $ 202,941
                            Lemon, Cleo Dolphins $ 197,353 $ 0 $ 0 $ 197,353 $ 197,353
                            Mauck, Matt Titans $ 203,512 $ 0 $ 0 $ 203,512 $ 189,412
                            Kingsbury, Kliff Jets $ 189,412 $ 0 $ 0 $ 189,412 $ 189,412
                            Lemon, Cleo Chargers $ 107,647 $ 0 $ 5,390 $ 113,037 $ 113,037
                            Smoker, Jeff Rams $ 143,529 $ 0 $ 0 $ 143,529 $ 107,647
                            Anderson, Derek Ravens $ 27,059 $ 49,500 $ 0 $ 76,559 $ 76,559
                            O'Sullivan, JT Bears $ 58,500 $ 0 $ 0 $ 58,500 $ 58,500
                            Palmer, Jesse Giants $ 0 $ 100,000 $ 0 $ 100,000 $ 50,000
                            Kingsbury, Kliff Broncos $ 9,400 $ 0 $ 0 $ 9,400 $ 9,400
                            Smoker, Jeff Eagles $ 4,700 $ 0 $ 0 $ 4,700 $ 4,700

                            I look at the cap number not the years salary because of guys like Vick this is 2005 so it is a little higher this year if Barnett is looking for a 6 year 42 million which I have read before then he is indeed looking for top 15 QB money and hes not even a top 20 LB. Course how the hell did Harrington get that much? He is not worth it neither is KGB Kampman's was a fair contract 5 million thats all he is worth and wist wouldn't even give him that.

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                            • #15
                              Mark Bulger deserves a raise.

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