The thing about Jenkins is that he isn't the one trick pony that KGB is. He can play the run and he can provide pass rush from inside and out. I kinda doubt he'll ever produce the number of sacks that KGB would. But, he could really turn out to be a very good player. And even if he flattens out I think he would be consistent.
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The thing about Jenkins is he a RFA. Due to that fact, there is a maximum that you can place on that player, and then other teams are allowed to bid on that player for whatever they want plus some form of draft picks. If someone goes over you bid, then you can bid what ever you want to that player. Because of this, Jenkins doesn't have much bargaining power.
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Jenkins's situation will be interesting in that we get to see what TT is thinking when he tenders Jenkins. There are new tender rules that allow _ I think - tenders that require 2nd round compensation. That's where I believe Jenkins should be tendered, but I bet TT tenders him on the cheap and will risk someone offering a sky high contract. GM's often seem to tender guys at a lower value than we, the fans, think the player is worth."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I could see giving Jenkins 3yr/$3 mil per... Which, with today's cap numbers, is not an exorbitant salary for a young guy with upside.
If he stays healthy, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't - viewing last year as an anomaly; and, even then he was still more productive than KGB.
He's young, and equally effective at end or tackle... He's exactly the type of player that you extend b/4 he becomes unrestricted.wist
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I read somewhere it was a 4 year 9-10 million I think Patler or someone posted last week what he would get at the middle tender and it wasn't much a little over a million he may just be a Packer Guy and figure security and double the amount is enough ala Al Harris(course we know how he feels now.) The tenders rarely don't work because no is going to risk a #1 especially on a guy who has only started 4 games, that being said I hope we sign him he has shown way more upside than KGB has shown of anything the last three years.
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Agree completely on this. Well said Wist.Originally posted by wist43I could see giving Jenkins 3yr/$3 mil per... Which, with today's cap numbers, is not an exorbitant salary for a young guy with upside.
If he stays healthy, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't - viewing last year as an anomaly; and, even then he was still more productive than KGB.
He's young, and equally effective at end or tackle... He's exactly the type of player that you extend b/4 he becomes unrestricted.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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...and that there folks is the reason why Jenkins is a must-keep player. The boy is thick and aint gonna get pushed around like KGB. He is also hungry and has a high standard with his brother being a ProBowl player. The team gave him his shot and now he is panning out bigtime. I have no doubt TT will be keeping Jenkins in G&G.Originally posted by BobDobbsThe thing about Jenkins is that he isn't the one trick pony that KGB is. He can play the run and he can provide pass rush from inside and out. I kinda doubt he'll ever produce the number of sacks that KGB would. But, he could really turn out to be a very good player. And even if he flattens out I think he would be consistent.
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If the Packers think Jenkins is for real, I could see him getting upwards of $4M/year. It's hard for me to tell. I don't get paid to make that decision. If they aren't sure, they'll likely tender him and see if he'll sign something more equitable."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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The Packers don't have to risk a long term big dollar contract on Jenkins. They can offer a one year tender that will keep everyone away. They can then see if he really does fit the role they have for him.
From the CBA:
For Restricted Free Agents with three Accrued Seasons:
(1) Right of First Refusal: one year Player Contract with Paragraph 5 Salary of at least $721,600 for the 2006 League Year, $850,000 for the 2007 League Year, $927,000 for the 2008 League Year, $1,010,000 for the 2009 League Year, $1,101,000 for the 2010 League Year, $1,200,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $1,308,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable;
(2) Right of First Refusal and Draft Selection at Player’s Original Draft Round: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) the amount set forth in Subsection (b)(i)(1) above, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged (this Subsection is subject to the rules of Subsection (c) below);
(3) Right of First Refusal, One Second Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $1,300,000 in the 2007 League Year, $1,417,000 in the 2008 League Year, $1,545,000 in the 2009 League Year, $1,684,000 in the 2010 League Year, $1,835,000 in the 2011 League Year, or $2,000,000 in the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged;
(4) Right of First Refusal and One First Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $1,573,000 for the 2006 League Year, $1,850,000 for the 2007 League Year, $2,017,000 for the 2008 League Year, $2,198,000 for the 2009 League Year, $2,396,000 for the 2010 League Year, $2,611,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $2,846,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged
(5) Right of First Refusal, One First Round Draft Selection, and One Third Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $2,096,600 for the 2006 League Year, $2,350,000 for the 2007 League Year, $2,562,000 for the 2008 League Year, $2,792,000 for the 2009 League Year, $3,043,000 for the 2010 League Year, $3,317,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $3,616,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged;
Obviously, option 2 is out of consideration because Jenkins wasn't drafted. For Jenkins, it is no different than Option 1. Option 1 almost guarantees that he will get an offer from someone; however, in any of the options the Packers are guaranteed to keep him at a price set by another team. Option 5 mostly guarantees no one will make an offer, who would give a 1st and a 3rd for him? I doubt anyone would give just a 1st round pick (Option 4). The most "iffy" is Option 3, second round compensation. That might be where he is tendered.
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Originally posted by PatlerThe Packers don't have to risk a long term big dollar contract on Jenkins. They can offer a one year tender that will keep everyone away. They can then see if he really does fit the role they have for him.
From the CBA:
For Restricted Free Agents with three Accrued Seasons:
(1) Right of First Refusal: one year Player Contract with Paragraph 5 Salary of at least $721,600 for the 2006 League Year, $850,000 for the 2007 League Year, $927,000 for the 2008 League Year, $1,010,000 for the 2009 League Year, $1,101,000 for the 2010 League Year, $1,200,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $1,308,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable;
(2) Right of First Refusal and Draft Selection at Player’s Original Draft Round: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) the amount set forth in Subsection (b)(i)(1) above, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged (this Subsection is subject to the rules of Subsection (c) below);
(3) Right of First Refusal, One Second Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $1,300,000 in the 2007 League Year, $1,417,000 in the 2008 League Year, $1,545,000 in the 2009 League Year, $1,684,000 in the 2010 League Year, $1,835,000 in the 2011 League Year, or $2,000,000 in the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged;
(4) Right of First Refusal and One First Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $1,573,000 for the 2006 League Year, $1,850,000 for the 2007 League Year, $2,017,000 for the 2008 League Year, $2,198,000 for the 2009 League Year, $2,396,000 for the 2010 League Year, $2,611,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $2,846,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged
(5) Right of First Refusal, One First Round Draft Selection, and One Third Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $2,096,600 for the 2006 League Year, $2,350,000 for the 2007 League Year, $2,562,000 for the 2008 League Year, $2,792,000 for the 2009 League Year, $3,043,000 for the 2010 League Year, $3,317,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $3,616,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged;
Obviously, option 2 is out of consideration because Jenkins wasn't drafted. For Jenkins, it is no different than Option 1. Option 1 almost guarantees that he will get an offer from someone; however, in any of the options the Packers are guaranteed to keep him at a price set by another team. Option 5 mostly guarantees no one will make an offer, who would give a 1st and a 3rd for him? I doubt anyone would give just a 1st round pick (Option 4). The most "iffy" is Option 3, second round compensation. That might be where he is tendered.
With their salary cap situation it would be stupid to do anything less than #4 IMOTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I say option three. That way you don't have someone like Minny try to artificially drive up the price if you simply get to match an offer but get no compensation if you don't."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Originally posted by FritzI say option three. That way you don't have someone like Minny try to artificially drive up the price if you simply get to match an offer but get no compensation if you don't.
Somebody might do that if you go for #3. He's far more valuable to GB than a second round pick. Want to see KGB back starting ?
For an extra 500G, when we know TT will have plenty of space under the cap, I'd at least do #4TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Bretsky, I'll disagree. Second round picks are seen as extremely valuable. I doubt many if any GM's would give up a second round pick for a guy who played well for four games at a new position."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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