MOSS TO GREEN BAY?

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Around the NFL/By Mark Eckel


Sunday, February 11, 2007


MOSS TO GREEN BAY ?

The rumors are growing so loud they made it to ESPN last week -- wide receiver Randy Moss could be headed to Green Bay, a team he made a living against and drew the ire of the fans when he was a Viking.

It's no secret Oakland would like to move the high-priced receiver; it does come as somewhat of a surprise that the Packers would be interested. Except for the fact that with Brett Favre deciding to return next season, and the NFC being the NFC, Green Bay realizes they can go for it.

Moss, who once faked mooning the Green Bay crowd, would give Favre the star he needs on offense to go with a young, improving defense.

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POSTED 7:27 a.m. EST, February 11, 2007

FAVRE'S PAST WORDS PUT MOSS RUMORS INTO CONTEXT

When we addressed last Sunday the rumors linking Raiders receiver Randy Moss to the Packers, we mentioned that we recalled a negative reaction from Packers quarterback Brett Favre to Randy's "I play when I wanna play" comments from November 2001.

Thanks to one of our friends in the "real" media, we've obtained the text of the article. (We also tried to purchase the article on the New York Times web site. We paid our $4.95, but after completing the transaction we still couldn't get beyond the one-line abstract. We wonder how many others have had this problem -- and how many thereafter have taken the time to track down the $4.95 they handed over to the Times.)

The article was published on December 16, 2001, and it was written by Mike Freeman, a friend of PFT who has advertised two of his books -- Bloody Sundays and Jim Brown: The Fierce Life of an American Hero -- in this space.

Here's what Favre told Freeman in response to the the Moss admission of lollygagging.

"I was sitting there getting taped, and he popped into my thoughts and I don't know why," Favre said.

"I guess because we don't have anyone on our team like that in terms of what seems to be a poor attitude and work ethic. And don't get me wrong. There is no one in this league who puts fear in people more than Randy Moss. I think what players around the league like me who read some of his comments get upset about is that he can dominate any one game but I don't know if he has what it takes mentally to dominate all the time.

"If I was Randy I would feel bad about what I said," Favre added, "because he was given a lot of money to be a professional and his comments are not something a true professional would ever say. . . . I'm sure I'm speaking for a lot of players when I say this, that what he said doesn't just make him look bad, it makes players in general look bad. Some fans may think other players feel the same way he does, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

"I don't know Randy, but at some point in the future he'll regret what he said. If he doesn't, he's not a smart guy."

Favre also explained what would have happened if Moss had made such comments as a member of the Packers:

"Our veterans would step up and take care of the problem. It wouldn't happen on this team. On this team there are no individuals, no selfish players, and if they become that way, they're gone. Every team in this league has a superstar. Some have five and some have 10. But the great franchises that have been successful, including this one, they pull for each other.

"He's a great player, but the only way to be great, play after play and game after game, and be a great team player, is to constantly work hard. That's the key."

Five years later, Moss is far worse than he was in 2001 when it comes to selfishness and pouting and not playing hard all the time, if ever. It could be a product of his unhappiness with the fact that his current team isn't winning games and he isn't making highlight-reel touchdown catches.

But there's no guarantee that he would regain in Green Bay the form that made him one of the best receivers in the league for the first seven years of his career. And if he doesn't, he could quickly revert to his turdish ways.

Sure, he might be all smiles and good attitude when coming through the door -- just like he was in Oakland two years ago. Before long, however, Moss could be showing his ass to the same fans that he pretended to moon during a playoff game after the 2004 season, if he isn't the focal point of Favre's fastballs.

Bottom line -- he's not worth the risk, especially since it appears that he has lost a lot of the magic that he used to be able to display.

When he wanted to.

[packinpatland]

Bottom line. Can he continue to catch.

[FritzDontBlitz]

one of the most memeroable clips i have ever seen of randy moss is the one where the vikings are leading the pack during crunch time, and as the green bay offense is about to take the field for the decisive drive moss bolts from the bench and says "of course i wanna see this, its brett favre!" or something to that effect. it isn't a long clip/sound bite but those few seconds conveyed a lot about the admiration moss has for favre and what he can do.

if tt signs moss to join brett at lambeau, moss will want to play.

sign him.

[woodbuck27]

Another rumor'd option:

The free agent wide receivers aren't special. But there are some intriguing prospects.

Philadelphia's Donte' Stallworth has the deep speed Green Bay desperately needs and could be an ideal complement to Donald Driver. ... Green Bay has also reportedly shown some interest in trading for Oakland bad boy Randy Moss, something Favre supposedly supports.


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[retailguy]

one of the most memeroable clips i have ever seen of randy moss is the one where the vikings are leading the pack during crunch time, and as the green bay offense is about to take the field for the decisive drive moss bolts from the bench and says "of course i wanna see this, its brett favre!" or something to that effect. it isn't a long clip/sound bite but those few seconds conveyed a lot about the admiration moss has for favre and what he can do.

if tt signs moss to join brett at lambeau, moss will want to play.

sign him.

How do you KNOW this? This is the same crap people said about TO going to Philly to play with McNabb and going to Dallas to play for Parcels and with Bledsoe. That didn't work out so well, did it?

If Moss had gone to Oakland and given it his all, every play, EVEN WHEN the team sucked and been a "team guy" I might buy this. He hasn't and I don't buy it.

He's still a "me first asshole" and always will be, regardless of what any of us think. He continues to prove it, over and over again with his on field antics captured by the TV crews, and his off field antics of refusing to take a phone call from the coach (his boss). MOSS HAS NOT CHANGED.

I don't think he wants to either. From my vantage point he is still the same selfish jerk he has always been.

I'm off my soap box now.

[retailguy]

Bottom line. Can he continue to catch.

Yes. When HE wants to. And that's the problem.

[ND72]

If TT and MM go after him, they are total hipocrites in finding "Packer People"...cause he's not a "packer person"...which in MY opinion, is a high character person, which he's not. Randy Moss in wisconsin won't work. he will do something, and ruin whatever MM is starting to build.

[FritzDontBlitz]

one of the most memeroable clips i have ever seen of randy moss is the one where the vikings are leading the pack during crunch time, and as the green bay offense is about to take the field for the decisive drive moss bolts from the bench and says "of course i wanna see this, its brett favre!" or something to that effect. it isn't a long clip/sound bite but those few seconds conveyed a lot about the admiration moss has for favre and what he can do.

if tt signs moss to join brett at lambeau, moss will want to play.

sign him.

How do you KNOW this? This is the same crap people said about TO going to Philly to play with McNabb and going to Dallas to play for Parcels and with Bledsoe. That didn't work out so well, did it?

If Moss had gone to Oakland and given it his all, every play, EVEN WHEN the team sucked and been a "team guy" I might buy this. He hasn't and I don't buy it.

He's still a "me first asshole" and always will be, regardless of what any of us think. He continues to prove it, over and over again with his on field antics captured by the TV crews, and his off field antics of refusing to take a phone call from the coach (his boss). MOSS HAS NOT CHANGED.

I don't think he wants to either. From my vantage point he is still the same selfish jerk he has always been.

I'm off my soap box now.

i never said i knew he would, its a gut feeling. i'm saying take the chance on him.

[LL2]

If TT and MM go after him, they are total hipocrites in finding "Packer People"...cause he's not a "packer person"...which in MY opinion, is a high character person, which he's not. Randy Moss in wisconsin won't work. he will do something, and ruin whatever MM is starting to build.

I agree, but how many on the team are really "high character" people or are they just great team player types. Just because they don't make the news doesn't mean they have high character. I never thought of Corey Dillon as a high character person when he was in Cincy, but all the time with NE he's been a great team player. Moss could turn out to be a great team player because he wants to win. Winning changes everything.

[LL2]

If TT and MM go after him, they are total hipocrites in finding "Packer People"...cause he's not a "packer person"...which in MY opinion, is a high character person, which he's not. Randy Moss in wisconsin won't work. he will do something, and ruin whatever MM is starting to build.

I agree, but how many on the team are really "high character" people or are they just great team player types. Just because they don't make the news doesn't mean they have high character. I never thought of Corey Dillon as a high character person when he was in Cincy, but all the time with NE he's been a great team player. Moss could turn out to be a great team player because he wants to win. Winning changes everything.

[Joemailman]

If TT and MM go after him, they are total hipocrites in finding "Packer People"...cause he's not a "packer person"...which in MY opinion, is a high character person, which he's not. Randy Moss in wisconsin won't work. he will do something, and ruin whatever MM is starting to build.

I'm not sure that MM actually defined what he meant by "Packer People." If MM and TT could be convinced that Moss really wants to be a Packer, they might swing the deal. Having high character people like Favre, Driver and Kampman might be enough to keep him in line. He's not gonna scream on the sidelines at Brett Favre because he's not getting the ball enough. Cris Carter was his mentor in Minnesota, and Denny Green his coach. I think it's a very different situation here.

[SD GB fan]

lets face it, the term "packer person" is an image/vision of the packer organization, NOT a means of evaluating players. it is a good goal, but to overlook talent of potential players not on the roster is not practical. if TT and MM thinks that moss will behave better than they will take a shot at him because he would benefit the packers a lot on the field. to say that they will completely ignore the possibility of getting moss because of his character risk is foolish. no matter how "high character" a player is, in the NFL or any sports for that matter, it still comes down to money or fame.

[GrnBay007]

From NFL Fanhouse blogs....



With Favre Un-Retired, Green Bay Needs a Wideout
NFC North, NFL Rumors

Donte' Stallworth says he's willing to stay in Philadelphia even if he's offered more money elsewhere. We might see if he really means it because Green Bay could be interested in his services.

With Brett Favre un-retiring for a second straight off-season, the team can now move on to addressing other personnel needs. One of those needs is finding a competent compliment to Donald Driver. This year's free-agent wideout crop isn't especially deep (or talented), but Stallworth is the exception. Another, less attractive option, is Kevin Curtis, and if the Packers are looking for a taller, slower white dude, Drew Bennett could also be available.

If free agency doesn't work out, the draft is deep at wide receiver. The only problem is that rookie wideouts often struggle in their first professional season. And, as the very last resort, the Packers could trade for Randy Moss. Frankly, I think this is a great idea because every time Moss catches a touchdown pass, he can fake-moon the Green Bay fans and then pretend to use the goal post padding to ... uh, clean up.

[retailguy]

From NFL Fanhouse blogs....



With Favre Un-Retired, Green Bay Needs a Wideout
NFC North, NFL Rumors

Frankly, I think this is a great idea because every time Moss catches a touchdown pass, he can fake-moon the Green Bay fans and then pretend to use the goal post padding to ... uh, clean up.

Hmmm.... Yeah, .... great.