MOSS TO GREEN BAY?

[Creepy]

Moss of 4 years ago is a different than the current Moss. He hasn't walked off the field beofre a game is over, has played hurt last season in Minnesota (who can forget the game against GB) and in Oakland. he is down and unhappy because he felt going to Oakland who has always thrown deep did nothing tio improve their QB situatation. They had Collins who has been overarted since he came into the league and a host of slop at QB. So randy was wasted in Oakland and may not have played as hard.

Now if GB signs him I thinkyou will see abetter Randy (at first). Should gB win and getth eball out to him it will be a grteat tandem. Having moss would be like having Walker back. Driver will get anywhere form 75 t0 90 passes and be single teamed more, with Favres eluseviness and getting out ofthe pocket Randy will haul in some long ones and with a healthy Jenkins as the tird GB would be ina great position at WR. Ifthey pick up a good receiving TE, then they havethe making of an unstoppable offense.

Even withthat said I really would not like to see Moss in GB. As Moss caught more passes and some TDs his attitude would retunr andthen the monster would be loose. in the long run he would be a bad signing. If GB were a receivier short of a SB, then I would sign him in a heartbeat.

[prsnfoto]

If TT and MM go after him, they are total hipocrites in finding "Packer People"...cause he's not a "packer person"...which in MY opinion, is a high character person, which he's not. Randy Moss in wisconsin won't work. he will do something, and ruin whatever MM is starting to build.

Neither were Rison.Cade,Lofton,Robinson,Chewy, or Brett Favre himself this Packer People crap is funny Anman Green and Gilbert Brown beat there women, Favre and Chewy were well known pill popping drunk players screwing girls on several UW campus' though it is morally wrong I find myself rooting for them every Sunday myself.

[rbaloha1]

Character?

Remember Charles Woodson? How did he fit in?

Plain and simple, Randy Moss respects Favre and knows his presence can assist Super Bowl efforts.

Moss needs to be signed ASAP and begin working out with Favre.

[retailguy]

Re: Character?

Remember Charles Woodson? How did he fit in?

Plain and simple, Randy Moss respects Favre and knows his presence can assist Super Bowl efforts.

Moss needs to be signed ASAP and begin working out with Favre.

Plain and simple? NOTHING about this is "plain and simple".... Quite honestly, there is ZERO proof that Moss "respects" Favre and will "behave" because of it. There is AMPLE proof that the opposite is true.

While I concede that it is POSSIBLE that Moss will behave, I make a practice of refusing to "dance with the devil". Signing Moss is "dancing with the devil". More often than not, you lose when you decide to dance... and ole' Ted has "danced" twice (Robinson & Woodson). I wouldn't exactly call Woodson a "saint", although he had a great season. Signing Robinson prevented us from signing someone else who might have helped the whole season instead of a couple of weeks.

Using your logic, (which I wouldn't do), suggests that TT is either clairvoyant, or been lucky twice with no malcontents causing problems. In this case, the third time is NOT likely to be a charm.

From my perspective the fact that Woodson has behaved (although he missed ALL offseason stuff), doesn't indicate AT ALL that Moss will behave... but that's just me...

[prsnfoto]

Robinson was paid the league minimum for his years of service $30000+ per game once he was suspended we paid him nothing and filled his roster spot with someone else may have been Bodiford Koren was a no risk pick up and if he stays clean we still hold the rights to him. Moss has been relatively quiet in Oakland he has complained about not getting the ball which no one could in Oakland he has'nt had any run-ins with the law. He may have grown up some.

[AtlPackFan]

I agree. Besides that, I can see TT deviating from his plan to build through the draft and I can't see him giving up a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick either...especially as much as he seems to value those 2nd round and later picks.

[Packnut]

Re: Character?

Remember Charles Woodson? How did he fit in?

Plain and simple, Randy Moss respects Favre and knows his presence can assist Super Bowl efforts.

Moss needs to be signed ASAP and begin working out with Favre.

Plain and simple? NOTHING about this is "plain and simple".... Quite honestly, there is ZERO proof that Moss "respects" Favre and will "behave" because of it. There is AMPLE proof that the opposite is true.

While I concede that it is POSSIBLE that Moss will behave, I make a practice of refusing to "dance with the devil". Signing Moss is "dancing with the devil". More often than not, you lose when you decide to dance... and ole' Ted has "danced" twice (Robinson & Woodson). I wouldn't exactly call Woodson a "saint", although he had a great season. Signing Robinson prevented us from signing someone else who might have helped the whole season instead of a couple of weeks.

Using your logic, (which I wouldn't do), suggests that TT is either clairvoyant, or been lucky twice with no malcontents causing problems. In this case, the third time is NOT likely to be a charm.

From my perspective the fact that Woodson has behaved (although he missed ALL offseason stuff), doesn't indicate AT ALL that Moss will behave... but that's just me...

Your opinion is valid and I can understand the "anti Moss" bias in this forum. Quite frankly, at first the picture in my head of Moss in the sacred green and gold made me sick. However, what is more sickening is the amount of arena type WR's that Favre has been forced to throw to over the last couple of years.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.............

[AtlPackFan]

Opps...didn't quote.

Bottom line -- he's not worth the risk, especially since it appears that he has lost a lot of the magic that he used to be able to display.

When he wanted to.

Anyway Woodbuck, I still agree.

[PackerPro42]

I understand that there is a large risk involved in Moss, but I also believe that there is no doubting that the guy has talent and he can help our team. There is also a tremendous amount of upside to this whole rumor. If this deal does go down , like I hope it does, the Packers need to restructure his contact on incentives that way there is no risk involved and if it works out we'll all be happy.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9988414

For the sake of this discussion only, and with no intent to suggest the following players are even on the trading block, let's take a look at Raiders wide receivers Randy Moss and Jerry Porter. Oakland should have about $6 million of cap space if they stand pat with the roster. Moss is scheduled to count for $11.7 million on the 2007 cap. His salary is going to be $9.75 million and if he were traded, the Raiders would get back the $9.75 million of space minus any outstanding potential accelerations. Moss' accelerations are only $2 million, so the net of trading Moss for the Raiders would be a salary-cap gain of $7.7 million.

The question in this transaction will be more about the club who might have interest because they are not going to want to pay a $9.75 million salary and they may not want to spread his money out for an extended period of time. A team like the Packers, with $24 million of projected space, could absorb the contract. Compensation back to the Raiders is a whole other story, and at this point a first-round pick seems a little high to most GMs I talk with.

[mmmdk]

...about the mooning...the GB fans typically mooned the Vikings bus after games at Lambeau so Moss just gave some back. I never had any problem with either acts. Moss is strange alright but he's a huge talent and this league is about winning and so is Favre. Why not give Packers a fighting chance? TT likes his picks? Good, then don't waste'em on busts like Cory Rogers and a bunch guys already gone from the 2005 draft (Packers 2005 draft = what a waste). Moss could get injured but that's the name of the game but Moss has had NOBODIES throwing to him in Raiderland. Get Moss if you wanna go get the the trophy or at least a fighting chance. I'm tired of NFL-Europe players on my Packers roster.

[the_idle_threat]

...about the mooning...the GB fans typically mooned the Vikings bus after games at Lambeau so Moss just gave some back. I never had any problem with either acts. Moss is strange alright but he's a huge talent and this league is about winning and so is Favre. Why not give Packers a fighting chance? TT likes his picks? Good, then don't waste'em on busts like Cory Rogers and a bunch guys already gone from the 2005 draft (Packers 2005 draft = what a waste). Moss could get injured but that's the name of the game but Moss has had NOBODIES throwing to him in Raiderland. Get Moss if you wanna go get the the trophy or at least a fighting chance. I'm tired of NFL-Europe players on my Packers roster.

I agree ... screw Europe! :P :P :P

[retailguy]

Robinson was paid the league minimum for his years of service $30000+ per game once he was suspended we paid him nothing and filled his roster spot with someone else may have been Bodiford Koren was a no risk pick up and if he stays clean we still hold the rights to him. Moss has been relatively quiet in Oakland he has complained about not getting the ball which no one could in Oakland he has'nt had any run-ins with the law. He may have grown up some.

I don't have the problem with the $'s they paid Robinson, it was the ROSTER SPOT. I forget who it was, but there was a decent receiver on the street at the time who would have been available for the whole season. That's the real loss.

Remember - ONE more victory meant playoffs. There were several games in the middle of the season where all the receivers were banged up. Where was Robinson? suspended. Wish I could remember the guys name who was available. I remember more than one person around here grousing about it at the time.

[red]

Robinson was paid the league minimum for his years of service $30000+ per game once he was suspended we paid him nothing and filled his roster spot with someone else may have been Bodiford Koren was a no risk pick up and if he stays clean we still hold the rights to him. Moss has been relatively quiet in Oakland he has complained about not getting the ball which no one could in Oakland he has'nt had any run-ins with the law. He may have grown up some.

I don't have the problem with the $'s they paid Robinson, it was the ROSTER SPOT. I forget who it was, but there was a decent receiver on the street at the time who would have been available for the whole season. That's the real loss.

Remember - ONE more victory meant playoffs. There were several games in the middle of the season where all the receivers were banged up. Where was Robinson? suspended. Wish I could remember the guys name who was available. I remember more than one person around here grousing about it at the time.

are you thinking of charles rodgers, or david boston?

i know we talked a lot of those two on here

[retailguy]

Robinson was paid the league minimum for his years of service $30000+ per game once he was suspended we paid him nothing and filled his roster spot with someone else may have been Bodiford Koren was a no risk pick up and if he stays clean we still hold the rights to him. Moss has been relatively quiet in Oakland he has complained about not getting the ball which no one could in Oakland he has'nt had any run-ins with the law. He may have grown up some.

I don't have the problem with the $'s they paid Robinson, it was the ROSTER SPOT. I forget who it was, but there was a decent receiver on the street at the time who would have been available for the whole season. That's the real loss.

Remember - ONE more victory meant playoffs. There were several games in the middle of the season where all the receivers were banged up. Where was Robinson? suspended. Wish I could remember the guys name who was available. I remember more than one person around here grousing about it at the time.

are you thinking of charles rodgers, or david boston?

i know we talked a lot of those two on here

No, someone who had experience with the WCO as I recall. Not a superstar, but adequate. I didn't suggest picking up Rogers at all, and didn't pay much attention to those who did. Patler?? Who was it? We all know that you know...