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    Where we are :
    The Packers appear to be a team on the rise. A key part (and a tricky one)to building a contender is the assembling of a solid offensive line. This has been addressed admirably by the additions of Colledge, Spitz, Moll, and Wells.
    Here's the areas of concern - at least as I see them - and possible answers.

    1. Playmakers : the Packers need to add players who can be gamechangers - able to change the 12 yd. play into an 85 yard one. From what I've seen of Greg Jennings, he seems to have a bit of that magic - even without blazing speed. Ahman Green has a modicum of it, too - but at 30, he is not a long range solution.

    Answer : The rumored Moss gambit (3rd rounder) seems to be a low risk gamble with tremendous upside. Not only would the team add the quintessential big play threat, a side benefit would be to silence the magpies who are always screaming about Favre being shortchanged. Win-win.

    TE : something needs to change. Bubba Franks , post-injuries, is clearly not the player he once was (and in my opinion, at his best he was only an average NFL tight end). The play of Martin - chronically undependable with injuries - and Lee, who failed to produce when opportunity knocked, is troubling.

    Answer : There seems to be a nice selection in free agency. Perhaps Eric Johnson (S.F.) would be a worthwhile, low cost addition.

    Secondary :
    a. we need to be developing successors to Harris & Woodson - as well as finding a talented option at nickelback.

    Answer : Blackmon could have an impact here, but even if he pans out, help is needed. The 2nd round of the draft might be the way to go here.

    b. the ongoing search for a viable strong safety continues.

    Answer : Manuel does not appear to be much of an upgrade over Roman. Underwood might be the answer, but more help must be added.
    TT could take another flyer in free agency (Michael Lewis?) or perhaps look
    for an instinctive safety in rounds 4-7. Historically, this type of player can be found in later rounds (they usually don't have the most worshipped computer numbers; safety is not the sexiest of positions).

    RB : Green won't last forever. Even if he has another 2 years in the tank, he needs to be rested. Morency appears to fit the Tony Fisher role admirably. Noah Herron is an example of what Ron Wolf referred to as 'NFL Europe quality' players.

    Answer : value is always the key in the draft. If the right player - the right fit for the team-is available in Round #1 (Lynch?), TT should make the move.

    Misc. : depth/upgrades all along the roster.

    Answer : I think TT has proven his aptitude here already. He need to continue to identify players who can fit our systems, decide if they can be had in lower draft spots, and make the moves which bring the biggest bang for the Packer buck.
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

  • #2
    I'm surprised.
    Usually - by now - the critics would be blasting away!
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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    • #3
      Michael Lewis is an interesting possibility. He was in the Pro Bowl in 2004, is only 26, and was benched this year. He should be entering the prime of his career. He may lack the coverage skills the Packers are looking for, as did Manuel, but he is an interesting possibility.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        I was pretty surprised to learn how relatively young Lewis was.
        Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joemailman
          Michael Lewis is an interesting possibility. He was in the Pro Bowl in 2004, is only 26, and was benched this year. He should be entering the prime of his career. He may lack the coverage skills the Packers are looking for, as did Manuel, but he is an interesting possibility.
          I suggested Lewis as a possibility a while back, but every one shot that idea down as fast as I could get his name out there. I wouldn't mind seeing the Packers pick him up or Hamlin. I think they would both complement Collins well and I think they're both terrific players. Regardless of what happened to Lewis this season. Sometimes a guy just needs a change of scenery.

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          • #6
            I wonder if the Packers remain high on Underwood.
            Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PackerPro42
              I suggested Lewis as a possibility a while back, but every one shot that idea down as fast as I could get his name out there.
              What thread? I don't remember everybody ripping Michael Lewis. I remember a couple of people ripping him, but not a lot. I'd like to see it, so I can respond. Personally, I think Lewis is a guy who would be worth taking a chance on.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #8
                Re: Packer Offseason Moves

                Originally posted by The Shadow
                Where we are :
                The Packers appear to be a team on the rise. A key part (and a tricky one)to building a contender is the assembling of a solid offensive line. This has been addressed admirably by the additions of Colledge, Spitz, Moll, and Wells.
                Here's the areas of concern - at least as I see them - and possible answers.

                1. Playmakers : the Packers need to add players who can be gamechangers - able to change the 12 yd. play into an 85 yard one. From what I've seen of Greg Jennings, he seems to have a bit of that magic - even without blazing speed. Ahman Green has a modicum of it, too - but at 30, he is not a long range solution.

                Answer : The rumored Moss gambit (3rd rounder) seems to be a low risk gamble with tremendous upside. Not only would the team add the quintessential big play threat, a side benefit would be to silence the magpies who are always screaming about Favre being shortchanged. Win-win.

                TE : something needs to change. Bubba Franks , post-injuries, is clearly not the player he once was (and in my opinion, at his best he was only an average NFL tight end). The play of Martin - chronically undependable with injuries - and Lee, who failed to produce when opportunity knocked, is troubling.

                Answer : There seems to be a nice selection in free agency. Perhaps Eric Johnson (S.F.) would be a worthwhile, low cost addition.

                Secondary :
                a. we need to be developing successors to Harris & Woodson - as well as finding a talented option at nickelback.

                Answer : Blackmon could have an impact here, but even if he pans out, help is needed. The 2nd round of the draft might be the way to go here.

                b. the ongoing search for a viable strong safety continues.

                Answer : Manuel does not appear to be much of an upgrade over Roman. Underwood might be the answer, but more help must be added.
                TT could take another flyer in free agency (Michael Lewis?) or perhaps look
                for an instinctive safety in rounds 4-7. Historically, this type of player can be found in later rounds (they usually don't have the most worshipped computer numbers; safety is not the sexiest of positions).

                RB : Green won't last forever. Even if he has another 2 years in the tank, he needs to be rested. Morency appears to fit the Tony Fisher role admirably. Noah Herron is an example of what Ron Wolf referred to as 'NFL Europe quality' players.

                Answer : value is always the key in the draft. If the right player - the right fit for the team-is available in Round #1 (Lynch?), TT should make the move.

                Misc. : depth/upgrades all along the roster.

                Answer : I think TT has proven his aptitude here already. He need to continue to identify players who can fit our systems, decide if they can be had in lower draft spots, and make the moves which bring the biggest bang for the Packer buck.

                Can't argue with any of this in here Shadow, although I'd also like to see them bring in a competent OG in case the youngyans break down.
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  Perhaps Marco Rivera will become available again.......
                  Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                  • #10
                    I don't think Rivera is the player he used to be with the Packers. I remember watching a couple cowboy games that had him commiting numerous penalties and allowing way to much pressure on the QB. I also think he's way to old to make a move on. Possibly someone like Leonard from the Cardinals as a possible OT/OG prospect. He's got so much potential but wasn't really able to show it off in AZ.

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                    • #11
                      Well, sometimes it's the smaller moves that are really encouraging - when the larger issues are progressing well.
                      If the Packers could actually secure Moss for a 3rd rounder, the glaring playmaker need becomes moot, and the filling in of smaller-but-crucial pieces takes on new meaning.
                      I think the Packers will continue to add to the offensive line, but I'm not convinced a vet will be the chosen path.
                      Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                      • #12
                        CB depth is a big concern to me w/ the ages of harris and woodson. I think we will see more small college good raw skill guys added in the mid rounds this yr.

                        Maybe an early pick 2nd or likely 3rd round selection this yr, and then probably a 1st rounder next yr depending on how things shake out this yr.



                        Get Moss

                        sign Johnson

                        address the RB and WR spot in the 1st and 2nd round this yr as there should be a good RB available as well as a good WR in both rounds.

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                        • #13
                          We definitely need to address cornerback. Patrick Dendy at #3 just ain't gonna cut it.
                          "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                          • #14
                            Good list. It's about playmakers most of all. Wideouts with speed and hands. A running back for the future. Corners and safeties with speed and skills.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #15
                              There's no reason not to sign Johnson..Lewis would be good..I'd be extremely pumped if we traded for Moss..Lynch remains my number 1 choice at 16..

                              Can't argue with anything you posted, Shadow..Nice post.

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