Packers want Adalius Thomas

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i want proof that barnett wants top money. so many people know for a fact that he wants top LB money

so there must be proof

so i want to see a quote where nick barnett himself says that he wants huge money

[motife]

if we're going by the PFT report, it says Thomas would play with his hand down at DE, ala KGB.

I'd say hopefully, like Jason Taylor or Dwight Freeney.

based on TT's approach to the draft, he seems to be looking for intensity at any position, regardless of need.

[motife]

sorry.. one more time. i love these.

[Cheesehead Craig]

My guess is that the Pats will be all over him.

That's a good bet. What other 3-4 teams have money and need a LB? Cleveland? Pittsburgh?

I think the Jets would be interested as well and have the cash. They run a 3-4 and he would be a monster there as well.

[wist43]

As good as Thomas is, if he's going to play DE I don't want him. I think that the DE position is pretty well set for next year and I don't think there is a need to pick up a high profile DE in FA in order to fill a non-need. If he's willing to fill the OLB position then by all means. The only thing I question is his ability to adapt to a 4-3 defense as a OLB or DE. I just don't think that picking up Thomas is a wise way to spend our money.

They need playmakers period. Perhaps they'll play him at OLB and have the best linebacking corps in the league. Remember, in this scheme the WLB and SLB play almost the identical position.

I would be more agreeable to bringing in Thomas as a LB; but, again, would they get big $$$ value out of Thomas as a LB???

Thomas's greatest attribute is his pass rush/penetration ability... Green Bay does very little with their LB's in terms of pass rush/penetration. The Packers blitz infrequently (by design), and when they do blitz, it's telegraphed and easy to pick up - do they really want to spend big bucks on a position where the guy is just going to be called on to make tackles 5 yds down the field???

Just playing devils advocate here... like I said, I'd love to have Thomas, but I fear the Packers scheme would neuter him, and ultimately he would be a waste of money - and from his standpoint, it would be a waste of his talent.

I don't know why he would even consider coming to a team that runs the scheme the Packers run.

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i'm also guessing this is a smoke screen

but either way, i does kind of show TT is going to be a player early in FA, and not take another vacation

[vince]

My guess is that the Pats will be all over him.

That's a good bet. What other 3-4 teams have money and need a LB? Cleveland? Pittsburgh?

I think the Jets would be interested as well and have the cash. They run a 3-4 and he would be a monster there as well.

San Fran also - and they have more room under the cap than any team in the league.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If Barnett only wants similar money to Henderson 5 years 25 mil.

I didn't say he wanted that. I said his agent is looking into a deal for a little more than that. However, the landscape will change once Briggs gets his new deal. His agent will be looking at something in between what Briggs and Henderson make. What I'm saying is that $6M/year is not QB money anymore. Any decent QB will make at least $8M/year. Brees got that last year, and nobody (probably not even New Orleans) thought he was a All-Pro QB. If a guy like Marc Bulger were on the market now, he'd get WELL OVER $10M/year. To say he wants QB money is an overstatement based on salaries from a couple of years ago.

[rbaloha1]

AT

My guess is the following:

AT is being signed to replace Poppinga

Cullen Jenkins will be resigned.

KGB will only be resigned for the NFL minimum

In passing situation, CJ moves to the inside and AT moves to an outside rusher

[motife]

regarding Middle Linebackers, my impression was they don't get OLB money.

[red]

Re: AT

My guess is the following:

AT is being signed to replace Poppinga

Cullen Jenkins will be resigned.

KGB will only be resigned for the NFL minimum

In passing situation, CJ moves to the inside and AT moves to an outside rusher

kgb's contract is not up for renegotiations.

[esoxx]

I don't believe any of these offseason player acquistion rumors. Makes for interesting conversation but rarely come to fruition.

IF it were true it would be great. Worrying about where he's going to play is missing the point. You're adding another Pro Bowl talent to your defense. You win with talent, not scheme. Thomas would make an impact and you want more of those type of players versus JAGs. The more blue chips you have, the better your chances to win.

Sounds simple but sometimes people get so bogged down in peripheral thoughts they can't see the forest through the trees.

[PackerPro42]

I don't believe any of these offseason player acquistion rumors. Makes for interesting conversation but rarely come to fruition.

IF it were true it would be great. Worrying about where he's going to play is missing the point. You're adding another Pro Bowl talent to your defense. You win with talent, not scheme. Thomas would make an impact and you want more of those type of players versus JAGs. The more blue chips you have, the better your chances to win.

Sounds simple but sometimes people get so bogged down in peripheral thoughts they can't see the forest through the trees.

You're right. If you put a bunch of all stars on a team, you could probably have Gary Coleman as the coach because scheme means absolutely nothing. You're speaking like a true madden player, scheme is the reason that the Patriots won 4 super bowls. If you look at their roster, they didn't have outstanding talent. Building a super star team has nothing to do with all star players. Sure it helps, but what a GM looks for is people that can fit their system the best and that are able to be the most productive in the scheme that they run. If you just go throw all your money on "all star" players that don't fit you system, you'll go bankrupt and never have a successful team.

[PackerPro42]

I don't believe any of these offseason player acquistion rumors. Makes for interesting conversation but rarely come to fruition.

IF it were true it would be great. Worrying about where he's going to play is missing the point. You're adding another Pro Bowl talent to your defense. You win with talent, not scheme. Thomas would make an impact and you want more of those type of players versus JAGs. The more blue chips you have, the better your chances to win.

Sounds simple but sometimes people get so bogged down in peripheral thoughts they can't see the forest through the trees.

You're right. If you put a bunch of all stars on a team, you could probably have Gary Coleman as the coach because scheme means absolutely nothing. You're speaking like a true madden player, scheme is the reason that the Patriots won 3 super bowls. If you look at their roster, they didn't have outstanding talent. Building a winning team has nothing to do with all star players. Sure it helps, but what a GM looks for is people that can fit their system the best and that are able to be the most productive in the scheme that they run. If you just go throw all your money on "all star" players that don't fit you system, you'll go bankrupt and never have a successful team.

[retailguy]

If you just go throw all your money on "all star" players that don't fit you system, you'll go bankrupt and never have a successful team.

Sounds like the Redskins, 'cept for the bankrupt part.