Marty Fired!

[J-Rok]

Shit. I just heard that on ESPN, too. Wow. San Diego fires their coach for wanting to make our Defensive Backs coach their defensive cordinator. Wowowowow.

Hey Mike and Ted, I think that's a little hint that our DB coach blows. Get rid of him.

[KYPack]

Shit. I just heard that on ESPN, too. Wow. San Diego fires their coach for wanting to make our Defensive Backs coach their defensive cordinator. Wowowowow.

Hey Mike and Ted, I think that's a little hint that our DB coach blows. Get rid of him.

This is the second time that Marty has been fired from a HC job over his brother Kurt. After the Browns '88 season, Art (the Meddler) Modell insisted Marty fire several assistants, including Marty's younger brother Kurt. Marty refused, for essentially the same reasons he just went thru at SD, and was canned.

Why couldn't he have just a little more juice after all these years?

[red]

COME ON TT!!!!!!!!!!

what does that tell you about our secondary coach. a head coach, and a good head coach, of a good team not too far away from the super bowl, was fired for thinking about bringing in our guy

[Kiwon]

It's hard to read TT. If the Packers had gone 1-3 or 0-4 the last four games then Kurt S. would probably be gone. But the fact that they won those games thanks largely due to the defense makes a shake up less likely IMHO.

Al Harris and Charles Woodson had arguable Pro Bowl seasons and some of the credit will go to Shotty. The Packers might end up being victims of their own success.

[oregonpackfan]

Let's get back to the record of 14-2. How many teams have compiled a record equal to or superior than 14-2? Not a whole heck of a lot.

I can't help but feel the Chargers' owner has shot himself and the entire organization in the foot.

As far as the playoff loss to the Patriots, Schottenheimer did not:

--muff the punt return leading to the Pats recovering the fumble and eventually scoring.

--making the interception and then fumbling the ball away.

--having a boneheaded unsportsmanlike penalty called on the DB when the Pats would have had to punt on 4th down. With the penalty, the Pats got a 1st down and eventually scored.

No, the players made all those terrible mistakes, not the coach.

Frankly, I would love to see Marty as the Packers HC.

As teams often take 2 full seasons to adapt to their new HC and his new assistants, I predict the Chargers will finish no better than 8-8 this season.

[Fritz]

Yhis whole thing about being good but not being able to win the big one is a sham. Bill Cowher was a "he can't win the big one" coach - then he won. What, did he suddenly get better? Tony Dungy - same. And Dean Smith was a long time icon in North Carolina but he couldn't get NC over the top. H got the same tag - but then he won the championship.

It's just a label and an attempt to categorize and oversimplify a complex subject.

And by the way, I too had hopes that Kurt would be gone. But there's still hope. If Shermy gets the job, the San Diego GM would love nothing more than to spit in Marty's face by allowing Shermy to hire Kurt as DC.

At least, that sounds good to me.

[KYPack]

Now comes ANOTHER slant on the Marty firing.

PFT ( I know, I know) has a report that seems to ring true. Marty wanting to interview Kurt was only a partial reason for the split. It seems that Marty wanted to give other assistants permission to interview for other gigs.

The speculation is that Cameron and Phillips were wanting to talk to some of their buddies on the Charger staff. Marty felt that these guys deserved a chance to better themselves and wanted to give them a chance to leave the sinking (& shrinking ) Bolt staff. Schottenheimer also wanted to ionterview his bro for the DC job.

Smith and Spanos panicked and denied the permission and canned Marty.

This makes sense and would seems to be a more sensible scenario.

Fritz, I know what you are saying, but Marty just isn't a big game, play-off coach. He panicked in this year's play-offs and his ill-fated challenge late in the game was another dagger in his team's heart.

[Zool]

Shotts has never even been to a SB. Cower went to 2 in 14 years.

[Fritz]

I respect your opinion, KY, and I know Marty threw a bad challenge, But I would contend that he's capable of winning the big one. It's not just his coaching that lost that game. Players dropped interceptions. Stuff happens.

[woodbuck27]

Enter Mike Sherman!!!

What a stupid thing to do at this point.

TT should call Ladainian and ask him to hold out for a trade.

http://nfl-rumors.aolsportsblog.com/2007/02/13/martz-mariucci-sherman-in-chargers-sights/

Martz, Mariucci, Sherman in Chargers' Sights?
Posted Feb 13th 2007 6:56AM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Chargers, AFC West, NFL Rumors, NFL Coaching

With Marty Schottenheimer out in San Diego, we've got some potential replacements listed here and more here.

But three other candidates, all former NFL head coaches, are likely candidates as well, according to NFL Network's Adam Schefter:

Mike Martz. As the offensive coordinator of the Detroit Lions, Martz didn't exactly light up the scoreboard last season, but then again, these are the Lions we're talking about. In St. Louis, Martz's offenses were great. Martz ball is quite a bit different than Martyball, but it's intriguing to think about what Martz could do with Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates and LaDainian Tomlinson.

Steve Mariucci. Currently an NFL Network analyst, Mariucci had a good deal of success in San Francisco but significantly less in Detroit. Mariucci gets along well with veteran players, which would make him a good fit to join a team that thinks its current personnel is in great shape.

Mike Sherman. In Green Bay most people thought Sherman was good with the coaching part but bad with the personnel part. Since the Chargers already have the personnel side in place, Sherman might be a good fit.