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He has to mend the fences first before we should consider him. If he does that then yes, we should consider him. Harris, Woodson and Collins are solid. Sharper would be surrounded with talent that wouldn't allow him to be a big play tool like he was when he was basically our only safety. He should be on the side with Harris because we need someone on that side of the field to grab 10 picks a season when someone else is actually covering the receiver.
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Maybe his time in Green Bay is over but we still need help at Safety.Comment
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IMO, Sharper is way overrated in a Roy Williams (saftety for Dallas, not WR for Detroit) sort of way. Gives up a ton of big plays.Comment
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I'd defer to whatever Rastak says. . . but I don't see him back in the G and G again.
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I don't agree. He gave up some, but he also made big plays. As opposed to Manuel, who just gives up big plays. He didn't give up a lot of big plays in Minnesota the last two years. I can only remember a few. There are only a few safeties who are rock solid all around, Ed Reed and Brian Dawkins come to mind. Sharper is still better than average.Originally posted by the_idle_threat"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Of course he made big plays. So does Roy Williams. That is what these guys do ... they gamble and make big plays in exchange for giving up other big plays that people forgive and forget because they see him on the highlight reel on ESPN.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
I don't know how many big plays he gave up in the past couple of years with the 'queens (although I remember watching with glee as he chased Driver down the field and failed to catch him on that 82-yd TD in the dome this past season) but I do remember him giving up a ton of big plays with the Packers. You're telling me the leopard has changed his spots? I doubt it.
I'm not saying, by the way, that Manuel is better than Sharper. I'm saying that Sharper is not nearly as good as his Pro-Bowl resume makes people (and Sharper) think, and if he's on the market, I think the Packers should let someone else overpay him.
Manuel still needs to be replaced, but Sharper isn't the guy to replace him with.Comment
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Really? Garbage time INTs count as big plays??Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
When did this chump, that you love, EVER win a game on a INT?? He could have had 20 INTs for all I care cuz when it came down to the clutch he disappeared, always.Comment
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We'll do better without Sharper.C.H.U.D.Comment
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The question wasn't asked if we'd overpay for Sharper. It was: would you take him back? If I knew the safeties I really liked (Hamlin, Lewis, Grant) were going to get $5M/year, but Sharper could be had for much cheaper, I'd have no problem taking him back. He'd be an upgrade. Like I've said, there are others that I would take over him, but I'd take Sharper over what we have now. If we can't do better, I'd accept him back. We might not get All-Pro play from him, but we'd at least have a guy that we wouldn't have to worry about all that much. The guy has been a good player. To suggest otherwise I think is a little petty. There was a time he was one of the top handful of safeties in the NFL. He's not that anymore, but he's still better than average (and average is a ton better than Manuel). I have my doubts on whether Underwood and Culver would be any good. What have they done that has shown that they can be a decent starter in the NFL?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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I don't agree that Sharper was ever one of the top safeties in the game. Maybe I'm spoiled from having seen Leroy Butler play and all, but it seemed like Sharper was not so much a solid player as he was a gambler who made the most of big plays in garbage time and disappeared when the game was on the line.
IMO, Sharper was one of the top safeties in the game like Bubba was once one of the top tight ends in the game. Both were never as good as advertised, but yet they both can boast a history of multiple Pro Bowls.
Bottom line: I don't think Sharper comes back to G.B. unless we overpay him for his "Pro Bowl" past when in fact he was only marginally so then and now isn't anymore. That's why I don't want him back.
The fact that he's a prick and he "burned his bridges" in Green Bay is far less of a factor given the fact that pro football is a business and many of us are ready to embrace Randy Moss, who you would think would be even less welcome.Comment
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He would be an upgrade over Manual. I worry more about the bridges he burned. I just don't see him having the class or the balls to mend them for a job. I am still pissed we let Roman go. He wasn't the best but he was serviceable and did a decent job in 2005."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
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I didn't mind letting Roman go. He stunk in 2005. He was just okay in 2004. It's just too bad the replacement sucked so bad. Hopefully, we can shore it up."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted ThompsonComment
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Not to mention the fact that jus about every one of his INTs was thrown right to him. You never see him get an INT by making a play on the ball. It is floated right to him. Thats not big plays, thats being more lucky than good.Originally posted by MadtownPackerComment
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Good point. His maker made him pretty and lucky. But dont tell Harvey "has a #42 sharper jersey he cherishes" Wallbangers that cuz he wont reply to you. :POriginally posted by cpk1994Comment
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Yes it 'twas.Originally posted by GrnBay007hmm.....wasn't this once a huge argument between Harv and Mad?
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Mad, back off man, you've had your 3 Anti-Sharper comments. That's your quota for a "safety oriented" thread.
Harv, add Bob Sanders to your "rock solid" list. For a little shit, he's a bear.
Sharper? We just can't go back. TT looks to the kids or young vets. Thers's no way he adds a Sharper type. Even without the history.Comment
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