NFLDC New Mock Draft

[OS PA]

The thing that scares me about Lynch is his top-end speed. In all the highlights i've watched of him he always seems to be caught from behind. It appears that laterally he is quick and can make people miss with the best of them, but vertically he didn't appear to be a threat to take it the distance every time he touched the ball.

[Fritz]

Doncha love highlight reels? Made me want to go out in the snow and play some football.

Still, here's another issue I'll add: the guy sure does bounce back and forth and change directions an awful lot. It looks cool and all, but it sure doesn't seem to fit the one-cut-and-go style of zone blocking schemes.

[PackerPro42]

Well, Cal ran the ZBS as well and he worked out all right for them. Another thing about the ZBS is once the line collapses the RB has to do anything he can to make it work. And as for his top end speed, he's projected to run a high 4.3 to a mid 4.4. He's plenty fast.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Troy Williamson looked great in his highlight reel also. Aaron Rodgers throws darts all over the field in his highlight reel. That's why it's called a "highlight" reel. When I watched Lynch, I didn't think he looked like a can't miss. I was actually slightly disappointed in what I saw.

[RashanGary]

Lynch is allright. I'm not going to complain if we draft him.

I'd rather have Leon Hall or Reggie Nelson.

[Joemailman]

Well, Cal ran the ZBS as well and he worked out all right for them. Another thing about the ZBS is once the line collapses the RB has to do anything he can to make it work. And as for his top end speed, he's projected to run a high 4.3 to a mid 4.4. He's plenty fast.

If Lynch runs a 4.4 40, he'll probably be gone before the Packers pick. NFLDraftCountdown only has 1 RB running a sub-4.5 40, and that is Peterson.

[Patler]

I HOPE Lynch IS gone before the Packers pick.
Don't want him at all.
Don't want any runningback at #16.

[BallHawk]

I HOPE Lynch IS gone before the Packers pick.
Don't want him at all.
Don't want any runningback at #16.

I agree and, honestly, I think he will be a combine warrior and get picked up earlier than #16.

I feel sorry for whoever falls for the smoke and mirror act that is Marshawn Lynch.

[Bretsky]

I HOPE Lynch IS gone before the Packers pick.
Don't want him at all.
Don't want any runningback at #16.

I agree and, honestly, I think he will be a combine warrior and get picked up earlier than #16.

I feel sorry for whoever falls for the smoke and mirror act that is Marshawn Lynch.

Why do you dislike Lynch so much ? How many games have you watched him play in college ? Just curious. I've only seen him play a couple games and each time he really stood out in the game to me.

[Patler]

I HOPE Lynch IS gone before the Packers pick.
Don't want him at all.
Don't want any runningback at #16.

I agree and, honestly, I think he will be a combine warrior and get picked up earlier than #16.

I feel sorry for whoever falls for the smoke and mirror act that is Marshawn Lynch.

Why do you dislike Lynch so much ? How many games have you watched him play in college ? Just curious. I've only seen him play a couple games and each time he really stood out in the game to me.

I don't dislike Lynch any more than any other runningback in the first round this year. I hope he is gone so people won't have a reason to complain when TT doesn't take him. The frenzy is building around Lynch and the packers, to the point where people will EXPECT it to happen.

It's too early in the roster makeover to take a back. Their productive lifespan is too short, and the risk of significant injury is too great. I want a first round pick invested in a DB (either corner or safety, doesn't matter) WR, OT, DL (tackle or end, I don't care) even another LB or QB if a real good one falls to #16. I want a real good player at a position where he can be expected to be there and play well for the next 10 years.

MAYBE next year, if this draft goes well, 2006 continues to produce amd a couple from 2005 come around, THEN take a "franchise back" in round 1. But remember, if he plays as a rookie, you will be looking at replacing him in 6 or 7 years, but the OLs, DLs, DBs, WRs LBs and QBs will just be entering their prime years.

I want to continue building the foundation of the roster. Take a back in a later round, and hope you hit on one, but not the first round. Not yet. Not this year.

[Partial]

I HOPE Lynch IS gone before the Packers pick.
Don't want him at all.
Don't want any runningback at #16.

I agree and, honestly, I think he will be a combine warrior and get picked up earlier than #16.

I feel sorry for whoever falls for the smoke and mirror act that is Marshawn Lynch.

Why do you dislike Lynch so much ? How many games have you watched him play in college ? Just curious. I've only seen him play a couple games and each time he really stood out in the game to me.

I would guess zero.

[Bretsky]

I HOPE Lynch IS gone before the Packers pick.
Don't want him at all.
Don't want any runningback at #16.

I agree and, honestly, I think he will be a combine warrior and get picked up earlier than #16.

I feel sorry for whoever falls for the smoke and mirror act that is Marshawn Lynch.

Why do you dislike Lynch so much ? How many games have you watched him play in college ? Just curious. I've only seen him play a couple games and each time he really stood out in the game to me.

I don't dislike Lynch any more than any other runningback in the first round this year. I hope he is gone so people won't have a reason to complain when TT doesn't take him. The frenzy is building around Lynch and the packers, to the point where people will EXPECT it to happen.

It's too early in the roster makeover to take a back. Their productive lifespan is too short, and the risk of significant injury is too great. I want a first round pick invested in a DB (either corner or safety, doesn't matter) WR, OT, DL (tackle or end, I don't care) even another LB or QB if a real good one falls to #16. I want a real good player at a position where he can be expected to be there and play well for the next 10 years.

MAYBE next year, if this draft goes well, 2006 continues to produce amd a couple from 2005 come around, THEN take a "franchise back" in round 1. But remember, if he plays as a rookie, you will be looking at replacing him in 6 or 7 years, but the OLs, DLs, DBs, WRs LBs and QBs will just be entering their prime years.

I want to continue building the foundation of the roster. Take a back in a later round, and hope you hit on one, but not the first round. Not yet. Not this year.

I'm not on the Lynch train; I just have a hard time saying I would not want him if he is the best available player on the board. I think TT will slot these guys in their respective rounds and probably break them off into tiers as well.

If Lynch is graded above the other available players we'll take him IMO. But if the players left have similar grades then TT might avoid the RB position.

I like both of those safeties. I'd be pretty disappointed if they went OL in round one; I still feel Clifton and Tauscher can put in some good time.

Beyond that I'm open to any position...well......I'd hope they would not grab another QB.

But if Lynch is the real deal, TT grabs him, trades down in the second and adds another third, trades that third and Robert Ferguson for Randy Moss, signs Daniel Graham............................................ ....ah...................forget it........................I better wake up from my dream and go onto the next one.


Cheers,
B

[Patler]

I figure that by the time you get to the middle and bottom of the first round, no player is clearly better than at least one other player, unless someone has dropped for some reason. That being the case, take one of the 2, 3, 4 or more "best players available" at a position that suits you. That is what most teams really do.

For GB this year, I hope that is something other than a running back, unless TT feels they are closer to real playoff contention than I think they are.

[Patler]

I'd be pretty disappointed if they went OL in round one; I still feel Clifton and Tauscher can put in some good time.

Beyond that I'm open to any position...well......I'd hope they would not grab another QB.

I hope Clifton and Tauscher have a few good years left, but you have to start planning for their replacement, especially Clifton, who has had knee, hip and back problems over the years. Other than his ACL, Tauscher has been pretty healthy. Clifton's body could just give out on him. He is a huge man, and puts a lot of strain on his weakened parts. Plus, there really is not much depth on the O-line.

The most important thing in the next three years, which is about the maximum we could possibly hope that Favre will play, is to be sure his replacement is in place. If they truly have confidence in Rodgers, great! If not and one you didn't expect is available at #16, I have no problem with drafting a QB. This team could be positioned for a nice run in 2008 and beyond. I would hate to see them flounder for lack of an adequate QB. Doesn't have to be a HOFer, but just decent.

[Bretsky]

I'd be pretty disappointed if they went OL in round one; I still feel Clifton and Tauscher can put in some good time.

Beyond that I'm open to any position...well......I'd hope they would not grab another QB.

I hope Clifton and Tauscher have a few good years left, but you have to start planning for their replacement, especially Clifton, who has had knee, hip and back problems over the years. Other than his ACL, Tauscher has been pretty healthy. Clifton's body could just give out on him. He is a huge man, and puts a lot of strain on his weakened parts. Plus, there really is not much depth on the O-line.

The most important thing in the next three years, which is about the maximum we could possibly hope that Favre will play, is to be sure his replacement is in place. If they truly have confidence in Rodgers, great! If not and one you didn't expect is available at #16, I have no problem with drafting a QB. This team could be positioned for a nice run in 2008 and beyond. I would hate to see them flounder for lack of an adequate QB. Doesn't have to be a HOFer, but just decent.

You know me Patler; I want to win a Super Bowl before Favre retires. I figure he's here two more years so they have time to position themselves to do that with the right moves.

Tauscher will be fine; I'm concerned about Clifton but IMO he'll get better during the offseaon and he's a trooper when he's on the field.

Penn State has a very good OL, I think a OT, that may be available when Green Bay picks. Levi Brown I think. I'd hope TT would take the RB over him if it came down to it.

Overall though, I think there are a lot of mid tier first round prospects so this year and the tradedown possibilities may be right up TT's alley.