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  • AHMAN HEADED TO FREE AGENCY ???? JS

    A game of tag appears unlikely
    Green will probably test the market
    By TOM SILVERSTEIN

    tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2007

    The Green Bay Packers have a little more than a week to get running back Ahman Green signed if they want to prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent.

    Ahman Green will be an unrestricted free agent if he doesn't reach a contract agreement with the Green Bay Packers before March 2. "Green averaged 3.98 yards per carry in '06 and 3.31 in '05, a sharp departure from his 4.67 in 2000-'04. He stumbled too often at the end of runs, caught the ball poorly and had merely four gains of 20 yards or more... Nevertheless, he continued to attack defenses, seldom going down without a fight."


    At this point, Green seems interested in testing the market to see how much he's really worth even though his preference appears to be to remain with the Packers. To keep predators away from their leading rusher, the Packers are going to have to find common ground with him fairly soon.

    One option that isn't in the cards is the use of a franchise or transition tag to keep Green off the market. It would cost the Packers a one-year offer of $6.9 million to use the franchise designation and $5.9 million to use the transition.

    Teams have until Thursday to use either, but with Green having turned 30 Friday and the Packers unwilling to box themselves into a prescribed salary, the deadline will pass without Green Bay playing tag.

    "We haven't even thought about that," said Green's agent, Joby Branion. "That's not been discussed."

    Branion wouldn't say what Green is seeking, but after making $2 million in salary and $750,000 in incentives last year, the Packers' second-leading all-time rusher is seeking a major increase. Green was coming off a torn thigh tendon when he signed his one-year deal last season and would like to be compensated for posting a sixth career 1,000-yard rushing season.

    The Packers probably aren't willing to up the ante such that Green is in the Deuce McAlister, Lamont Jordan, Domanick Davis $5 million- to $6 million-per-year range, but they're probably willing to match what others such as Corey Dillon, Reuben Droughns, Warrick Dunn and Willie Parker average (around $4 million).

    Green, who has professed his love for playing in Green Bay and lives there year round, doesn't appear unwilling to go to the market to prove he's worth more than what the Packers are offering.

    "I talk with him almost on a daily basis," Branion said. "He indicated he's in the best shape of his life. He's hungry to get out there and compete. He's in tremendously positive spirits. He's excited about the future. He's excited that Brett (Favre) is coming back. He's optimistic about going forward.

    "At the same time, he knows it's still a business. He might have to explore other opportunities. He'd be very happy staying in Green Bay, but he may have to address other possibilities."

    The problem with the Packers letting Green test the market is that they don't know how other teams view him.

    Would it be surprising if the Denver Broncos, who run the same running system the Packers do, make him their lead back? No. Would it be surprising if Green's old coach, Mike Sherman, convinces the Houston Texans to make a bid for him? Absolutely not.

    On the other hand, other teams know how much Green likes playing in Green Bay and might not even bother making a run at him. They might also be skeptical whether at age 30 he can be a dominant back again.

    Branion has no doubt Green can be that type of player and he's convinced he would be at the top of the free agent list for teams searching for a running back.

    "I'd like to believe so," Branion said. "There's Chris Brown, Jamal Lewis, Dominic Rhodes. That's about it. There's not a whole lot of UFAs. There are probably more teams with need for a top quality player than there are players to fill the position."

    If the Packers don't re-sign Green, their options are limited. Backup Vernand Morency hasn't proved he can consistently move the chains, Noah Herron has been deemed a third-down back and 2006 rookie Arliss Beach is an unknown.

    The Packers could opt for one of the free agents or they could use the draft to replace Green. The ideal situation would be to re-sign Green and draft his successor, creating a two-headed attack for next season.

    "I do know Ahman isn't afraid of that," Branion said. "It doesn't matter to him. He's never about stats. He doesn't even know where he ranks every week. He just wants to win a Super Bowl."

    The Packers' only other potential unrestricted free agent who is a priority to get signed before March 2 is tight end David Martin. The Packers aren't going to pay big money for a guy who can't stay healthy, but they also know he is their best tight end.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

  • #2
    At 30, Green's best days are behind him. He may still have a few reasonably productive years left, but how many remain is anybody's guess. If your going to undervalue and lose a guy to FA, better to lose one with limited upside and remaining shelf life. Better you lose a guy like Ahman.

    But what a great Packer he's been.

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    • #3
      Ahman earned a lot of respect last year by coming back from what many described as a career-threatening injury. He's been one of the few players that consistently gives you a bang for the buck.

      The Packers better be careful. They have gone for several long stretches when they couldn't field a decent running back in the past and there might be a danger with Ahman's relative success to think that he is easily replaced. I don't think so.

      You don't want to overpay for a aging back but you don't want to lose a solid veteran that can help compensate for a young offensive line. TT's got an important decision to make.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
        At 30, Green's best days are behind him. He may still have a few reasonably productive years left, but how many remain is anybody's guess. If your going to undervalue and lose a guy to FA, better to lose one with limited upside and remaining shelf life. Better you lose a guy like Ahman.

        But what a great Packer he's been.
        Nah, what a great packer he is. I say keep him for another 2-3 years, it gives us time to find a replacement as well. If we don't re-sign Green this year, then either with our first or second round pick will have to be on a RB.
        Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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        • #5
          ahman was the only steady performer the offense had besides donald driver, losing him would be huge. if the packers dont re-sign ahman then green bay will have no short yardage run game for the next 2 or 3 years.

          tt is no dummy. i expect it to be a last minute announcement similar to the kampmann signing, but tt will hold onto ahman for at least another season to give him time to find a suitable replacement.
          Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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          • #6
            I'm concerned about this since Ahman is GB's best RB. Sometimes last year Ahman would be on the sideline and I thought WTF? Maybe he needed a break for his asthma, or MM wanted to see what the other guys can do. I think Green is worth a 2 year deal for $3-4 mil/yr, he still has that breakaway speed. Either way, I want TT to draft a RB this year, he didn't draft any last year, and he let Davenpoop go.
            Thanks Ted!

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            • #7
              Green wants to stay in GB, but the money still has to be right. The problme is going to bethe bonus. Base pay is now a joke, teams backload contract and make tem sound huge. Green will want at least a three year contact and a 6-8 million in bonus. That woudl leave base pay to average out aroun $4 million a year. GB will probably want to go 4 years to spread out the bonus, but keep it more at an average of 3 million a year.

              TT is thinking 3 years is the most that AG may be a #1 back. He doesn't want to overpay and be cap strung with too high a bonus. I think they will sign him with a 12 million dollar 4 year contrcat with 7 million in bonus.

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              • #8
                If I know the Minnesota --kings, this is the kind of situation they love to exploit. Watch them make a bid for AG. Either they steal Ahman away fom us, or, at the very least, they push up the $ the Pack has to pay for Batman.
                [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                • #9
                  Vikings don't want to play too many games as they already spent big money on taylor and don't really need Green. I think the Vikes will stay out of this, they would fear rhat if pushed to high they might win.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                    At 30, Green's best days are behind him. He may still have a few reasonably productive years left, but how many remain is anybody's guess. If your going to undervalue and lose a guy to FA, better to lose one with limited upside and remaining shelf life. Better you lose a guy like Ahman.

                    But what a great Packer he's been.
                    Nah, what a great packer he is. I say keep him for another 2-3 years, it gives us time to find a replacement as well. If we don't re-sign Green this year, then either with our first or second round pick will have to be on a RB.
                    I agree... letting Green walk is a mistake.

                    It's not like they're strapped for the cap... go ahead and invest a high pick in a back, but I'd still bring Green back for a couple of years.
                    wist

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                    • #11
                      Overpaying Green a bit right now is not a bad thing. He is their best option, and during his productive years he was paid very well, but not like the other "elite" backs, all of whom he outperformed for a 5 year period. The Packers should look at it as payment for past services.

                      Green was adamant about honoring his contract 3 years ago when many suggested he should demand an upgraded contract. He always said it would work out in the end. I think the Packers respected that last year, and gave him a decent contract for the situation. They should do it again.

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                      • #12
                        if hits hits the open market he's going to either coast us a lot more to resign him, or he'll be gone to another team

                        if he goes, we are screwed. i think you could wave bye bye to any shot at the playoffs next year

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                        • #13
                          Green

                          Green wants to stay. All TT has to do is give him a fair deal.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Green

                            Originally posted by Packnut
                            Green wants to stay. All TT has to do is give him a fair deal.
                            Not sure that TT is always reasonable.
                            wist

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                            • #15
                              Ahman's dealt with TT before. He obviously knows how to work with him.
                              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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