Ok, Taking the bull by the horns here...You pick the draft..

[PackerPro42]

Yes, Russell does have one hell of a arm, but in college he lacked the consistancy of a #1 pick and accuracy as well.

[ND72]

Russell reminds me of Leftwich. I think Stanton has a shot to be the second QB taken. CJ is the best player available but he plays WR. Thomas had some very strong numbers and Peterson ran well. The best thing to do is to look at game film and forget everything from Indy except for the interviews and their pee tests. One thing about Russell, he took apart a very bad notre Dame team but he has had a good year and he will more than likely go #1. I'm not crazy about him. I would much rather have Vince Young but we will see how Russell does this next year. I know ND likes Quinn but I think he is anything but a can't miss player. I wouldn't pick him as the number one qb!

Stanton as the 2nd QB taken is a joke. Quinn not being a can't miss player is a joke. You go ahead and pass up the most ready QB coming out of college this year, I guess I just like to take guys who will perform in the NFL, not the AFL.

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Russell reminds me of Leftwich.

Russell's got a way better arm than Leftwich.

leftwich has one of the best arms in the NFL, he's up there with favre. he has an absolute cannon

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I don't, that would be a waste of a pick and a first round talent in Rodgers.

not if you could get some value out of a pick.

a waste of a 1st round pick would be if he sits on the bench behind favre until his contract is up and bolts to another team

right no the pick was a total waste, this will be the third year we get absolutely nothing out of a 1st round pick

Thats correct, which he likely will do. I'd unload him. I think you have Favre for another year after this one. Rodgers will be starting by his 5th year then. I think he is probably pretty irritated with that right now and ready to start now.

[Charles Woodson]

Russell reminds me of Leftwich. I think Stanton has a shot to be the second QB taken. CJ is the best player available but he plays WR. Thomas had some very strong numbers and Peterson ran well. The best thing to do is to look at game film and forget everything from Indy except for the interviews and their pee tests. One thing about Russell, he took apart a very bad notre Dame team but he has had a good year and he will more than likely go #1. I'm not crazy about him. I would much rather have Vince Young but we will see how Russell does this next year. I know ND likes Quinn but I think he is anything but a can't miss player. I wouldn't pick him as the number one qb!

Stanton as the 2nd QB taken is a joke. Quinn not being a can't miss player is a joke. You go ahead and pass up the most ready QB coming out of college this year, I guess I just like to take guys who will perform in the NFL, not the AFL.

See the thing with you saying these things about Quinn is your a ND fan which means you love Quinn, it just seems like your going overboard for Quinn. I mean i also think that he should be the first QB taken, he was surronded by a horrible team and he made them pretty good.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Russell reminds me of Leftwich.

Russell's got a way better arm than Leftwich.

leftwich has one of the best arms in the NFL, he's up there with favre. he has an absolute cannon

What? You and I are not watching the same person. Russell's arm in is in another league from Leftwich. I'd say Leftwich's arm is well above average, but far from a Favre, Culpepper, Elway type cannon. Russell is closer to Culpepper in arm strength than Leftwich. At least, that's my observation. Maybe his slow delivery makes the speed look less to me, but I've never thought Leftwich had a huge cannon of an arm.

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Russell reminds me of Leftwich.

Russell's got a way better arm than Leftwich.

leftwich has one of the best arms in the NFL, he's up there with favre. he has an absolute cannon

Yep, I was thinking the same thing. He has a gun, but he has a huge wind-up to do it.

[ND72]

Russell reminds me of Leftwich. I think Stanton has a shot to be the second QB taken. CJ is the best player available but he plays WR. Thomas had some very strong numbers and Peterson ran well. The best thing to do is to look at game film and forget everything from Indy except for the interviews and their pee tests. One thing about Russell, he took apart a very bad notre Dame team but he has had a good year and he will more than likely go #1. I'm not crazy about him. I would much rather have Vince Young but we will see how Russell does this next year. I know ND likes Quinn but I think he is anything but a can't miss player. I wouldn't pick him as the number one qb!

Stanton as the 2nd QB taken is a joke. Quinn not being a can't miss player is a joke. You go ahead and pass up the most ready QB coming out of college this year, I guess I just like to take guys who will perform in the NFL, not the AFL.

See the thing with you saying these things about Quinn is your a ND fan which means you love Quinn, it just seems like your going overboard for Quinn. I mean i also think that he should be the first QB taken, he was surronded by a horrible team and he made them pretty good.

see where you're both exactly right, is as a ND fan, I also knew that they were a bad team. And guess what? There was one person that won games for them...Brady Quinn. He's the reason they won 5 games AT LEAST this year. The fact is, the rest of the team was as talented to help Quinn win anything. If Brady Quinn is at USC, or Miami, or Florida State, or wherever else where the talent is there....He's a #1 pick, with no questions, cause there is talent around him to win the big game. He's the most polished QB in the draft right now, with NFL teaching by Charlie Weis. He has a strong arm, and an accurate arm. I hope he drops. I hope he drops to a team that will be more ready to win than Oakland, or Detroit. The FACT is...Bulldog was right to start with. Brady Quinn is a highly talented kid that carried a very bad Notre Dame team. All by himself. Do I love Quinn, sure. I also do think Stanton is going to be a very good QB. I think they both will be better than Russell. But my "love" for ND, doesn't make it any more for Quinn. I just know talent when I see it.

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Russell reminds me of Leftwich.

Russell's got a way better arm than Leftwich.

leftwich has one of the best arms in the NFL, he's up there with favre. he has an absolute cannon

What? You and I are not watching the same person. Russell's arm in is in another league from Leftwich. I'd say Leftwich's arm is well above average, but far from a Favre, Culpepper, Elway type cannon. Russell is closer to Culpepper in arm strength than Leftwich. At least, that's my observation. Maybe his slow delivery makes the speed look less to me, but I've never thought Leftwich had a huge cannon of an arm.

i think it was a monday night game, after one they did of favre. where they clock the ball and try and convert it to baseball speed.

they did it to leftwich once, and i remember going, damn, thats faster then brett

i had the "wonderful" "pleasure" of watching leftwich destry my team in college a few times. he can trow it forever and put it right where he wants. he's be a pro bowler IMO if he wasn't so slow.

[Zool]

Leftwich as a rook won the QB distance contest thing in Hawaii. I want to say it was like 78 yards in the air. That might be a little high, but he won by 6-7 yards. The man has a rocket. Unfortunately, he can be outrun by everyone on the team. Including coaches.