What the FUCK!!!!

[MJZiggy]

But Tank feels that this is ALL TT's fault and that nothing that happened before his arrival bears any culpability for the state of this team because they happened to be winning at the time without taking into consideration how past actions affect the current situation. Therefore since his current gripe is with TT's handling of the LA deal, I wanna know how Tank gets it done.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

It's complicated but it involves getting the most talent possible with the cap space you have and how certain moves and decisions effect that.

You just contradicted yourself. To get the most out of your cap numbers is to be efficent, and efficient cap management is what ive been talking about for eons.

Only a son of a bitch like you would refuse to believe that Arrington, Woodson, Bentley and Hutchinson arent upgrades.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

geez, I didn't know we could write cuss words. this is to cool.

Fuck you Pacman; you motherfucker!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I just want to know precisely what it is you think he did wrong to not get Arrington? Is it TT's fault we don't play in the East? Should he have moved the team to accomodate him? How would YOU have gotten him in GB, Tank?

What did Polar Bear do wrong? Did not do enough to persuade Arrington to come to green Bay. Did not show Arrington more money; dismantled a playoffs team; forcing Brett Favre into retirement; gave birth to 4-12; no other major FA signing. Those are all the things Thompson did wrong.

Is it Thompson’s fault we don’t play in the east? It is thompsons fault that he did not resign after the 4-12 fuck up. Hes a terrible GM and he isnt doing the Pack any good with his tendency to hibernate at critical moments.

Should he have moved the team to accommodate him? No, he should resigns, and let someone like Sherman handle the GM duties.

How would I have gotten Arrington in GB? With $35 mil and the option to free up more cap space (the way Washington did), before signing Arrington, I wouldve signed Bently, Hutchinson, Owens and Peterson, and Woodson. This would also mean a Favre return. During the Arrington courtship, Favres status was thought to be instrumental in Arrington’s decision, and Favre's decision lies on what the GM does in f.a. Lastly, I would give Arrington a $10 mil s.b.

[MJZiggy]

What should he have done to persuade Arrington? How much should he have offered?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

What should he have done to persuade Arrington? How much should he have offered?

Read the thread above your last post again, please.

[MJZiggy]

Sorry, saw the word 'dismantled' and my mind read blah, blah, blah. You don't think if TT offered a $10 million signing bonus that has to get spread over the remaining years of the contract, you wouldn't be screaming at him for overspending on an injured, non-performing linebacker who couldn't get along with his last coach...? I'd say you would have. You are telling me that you think he's worth that much money?

[pacfan]

[quote="Anti-Polar Bear"]

How would I have gotten Arrington in GB? With $35 mil and the option to free up more cap space (the way Washington did), before signing Arrington, I wouldve signed Bently, Hutchinson, Owens and Peterson, and Woodson. This would also mean a Favre return. During the Arrington courtship, Favres status was thought to be instrumental in Arrington’s decision, and Favre's decision lies on what the GM does in f.a. Lastly, I would give Arrington a $10 mil s.b.

There is no guarantee that dropping major cash on somebody else's free agents is going to equal success. Look at Minnesota, they've been chasing after the 'perfect' defense for years. They still have an empty trophy case.

Am I dissapointed that we didn't sign Owens, yeah. Arrington, a little yeah. Hutchinson, umm not really. Peterson, no. Bentley, yeah.

As much as I am grateful for the last 15 years Favre has been here, I think the pack shouldn't cater to just one player. I realize how great he is and what he has done, but its better for us long-term to cultivate our own talent and build a solid team.

TT has had one season to fix the shit that Sherman left us. I say he has at least one more season before I start dropping f-bombs on his skinny white head.

[MJZiggy]

That's a good point pacfan. Tank Washington's been buying up free agents and putting themselves in cap hell for years. Tell me...how did the Redskins do in these last 3 Superbowls? They didn't even make the playoffs til last year. How did they do? And I still say if Arrington had signed you'd have claimed that the deal was all wrong and it was TT's screwup.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

[quote="pacfan"]

How would I have gotten Arrington in GB? With $35 mil and the option to free up more cap space (the way Washington did), before signing Arrington, I wouldve signed Bently, Hutchinson, Owens and Peterson, and Woodson. This would also mean a Favre return. During the Arrington courtship, Favres status was thought to be instrumental in Arrington’s decision, and Favre's decision lies on what the GM does in f.a. Lastly, I would give Arrington a $10 mil s.b.

There is no guarantee that dropping major cash on somebody else's free agents is going to equal success. Look at Minnesota, they've been chasing after the 'perfect' defense for years. They still have an empty trophy case.

Am I dissapointed that we didn't sign Owens, yeah. Arrington, a little yeah. Hutchinson, umm not really. Peterson, no. Bentley, yeah.

As much as I am grateful for the last 15 years Favre has been here, I think the pack shouldn't cater to just one player. I realize how great he is and what he has done, but its better for us long-term to cultivate our own talent and build a solid team.

TT has had one season to fix the shit that Sherman left us. I say he has at least one more season before I start dropping f-bombs on his skinny white head.

What shit did sherman "left us."?

Was Minnesota better than us last year?

The Cardinals and Lions keeps drafting high, and were they ever contender the last few years?

Did Seattle made the SB by upgrading their roster or rebuilding after last season?

You dont care about Hutchinson? You love Klemm and Whitticker, right?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

That's a good point pacfan. Tank Washington's been buying up free agents and putting themselves in cap hell for years. Tell me...how did the Redskins do in these last 3 Superbowls? They didn't even make the playoffs til last year. How did they do? And I still say if Arrington had signed you'd have claimed that the deal was all wrong and it was TT's screwup.

I will ask you the same question i asked collins: explain how the idea of not taking chances at upgrading your roster supposed to help the Packers make the playoffs again, please.

Both Wolf and Sherman weren't cowards like thompson. They took chances in FA to supplement the draft. Bother were winners. Is Thompson a winner?

No risk, no reward.

[Scott Campbell]

Another player who shouldve been in Green and Gold is Chad Hutchinson. But because thompson is so fucking cheap, hutchinson ended up with fucking rival minnesota.

talk about fuck up.

Why do you want Chad Hutchinson? He sucks.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Another player who shouldve been in Green and Gold is Chad Hutchinson. But because thompson is so fucking cheap, hutchinson ended up with fucking rival minnesota.

talk about fuck up.

Why do you want Chad Hutchinson? He sucks.

O thanks for the corection, wise one.

I meant the other Hutuchinson. The OG that Minnesota signed from Seattle. What is his first name again?

[MJZiggy]

That's a good point pacfan. Tank Washington's been buying up free agents and putting themselves in cap hell for years. Tell me...how did the Redskins do in these last 3 Superbowls? They didn't even make the playoffs til last year. How did they do? And I still say if Arrington had signed you'd have claimed that the deal was all wrong and it was TT's screwup.

I will ask you the same question i asked collins: explain how the idea of not taking chances at upgrading your roster supposed to help the Packers make the playoffs again, please.

Both Wolf and Sherman weren't cowards like thompson. They took chances in FA to supplement the draft. Bother were winners. Is Thompson a winner?

No risk, no reward.

Sherman took chances in FA, sure. He also 'dismantled' the Pack as you are so fond of saying...

[Scott Campbell]

Another player who shouldve been in Green and Gold is Chad Hutchinson. But because thompson is so fucking cheap, hutchinson ended up with fucking rival minnesota.

talk about fuck up.

Why do you want Chad Hutchinson? He sucks.

O thanks for the corection, wise one.

I meant the other Hutuchinson. The OG that Minnesota signed from Seattle. What is his first name again?

Well just be glad Ted didn't listen to you and give $49M to the wrong Hutchinson. I think you meant Steve.