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  • #16
    Originally posted by packerbacker1234
    Why worry.

    TT waiting a couple weeks at the most is the best thing ANY GM can do. Have you even payed attention to the contracts out there on the table? There is NO ONE IN FA worth what Adailus got with NE. Not to mention Clements with SF as well as all the other offers laying on the table.

    Teams have a lot of money to spend this year so let them go blow there wads and over pay for players that wont even come close to living up to there contracts.

    FA market is very weak. So what if we let Green shop around. Green assured the packers he will not sign without giving the pack a chance to counter offer.

    Aparently, Green has not gotten any favorable offers yet. Green will be back in green and gold because I bet we may make one FA signing for a sleeper like the FB out there.

    Why not a Safety? Rumor has it there gonna try Blackman at Safety. Also, Underwood who has looked amazing isn't injured anymore and Tyrone Culver showed some promise.

    Bassically, I think our answer at Safety is already on the Team.

    I never trust the "we'll give you a chance to match/one last shot" motto.
    Remember Allen Rossum ? He went into FA to explore under that premise.

    If the numbers on Bennett are accurate that deal was fair IMO.

    No excuse for going into next year with the safeties you mentioned above as starters.

    I do like Culver
    Blackmond has never played safety
    Underwood, how is he not injured ?? He tore his ACL; speaking from experience he won't be back to 100% til his second year back from injury. He'll be working through a lot of kinks and pains next year. Lee Evans...Willis McGahee....and others provide examples of that

    I'm not pleading for TT to go full bore; but would it hurt to make some visits happen and talk numbers with a few top guys ?

    We have a lot of holes to fill

    B
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #17
      I think your kepping your sig for a little while B.
      Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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      • #18
        First off, your wrong sir.

        We have VERY FEW HOLES on this team.

        The DL is solidified. The OL is Solidified. Our Linebacking Core is solid. Our starting CB's and one safety is solid.

        I think personally Underwood is our answer at safety.

        Offense: Sure RB is a ?, but in the end I see green getting back with us.
        QB: Favre and two young guys, good to go.
        WR: There is a decent Core here. One more to take up a more solid 3 wr slot or possibly a number 2 would be nice, but not required.


        There is no solid FA's in the market this year. The best one out there is prolly injury prone Stokely or Over the Hill Joe Horn. WHich, btw, TT did call Joe Horn if you must know.

        I think we have most of hte pieces already in place. A few upgrades is always welcome, but there isn't much out there int he market thats better then the personel we already have,

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        • #19
          Worry? It's been free agency for about 41 hours now. How many teams have signed anybody? I'm a little disappointed we didn't snag Graham, but there's not really anybody worth going after hard this year.

          Also, really a lot of this "panic" is brought on by an issue of reporting. If the Giants schedule a visit to try to bring in a 3rd string LT? ESPN is all over it. If the Packers do? We're lucky if we hear about if before he's signed. Part of this is the reporting bias, and part of this is that Thompson really, really doesn't tip his hand.
          </delurk>

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BallHawk
            I'm perfectly fine with what TT is doing. He's doing what any smart GM would do.

            Let's make this a fire analogy.

            All of the GMs in the league are firefighters and there is this HUGE fire called Free Agency. Now, all the bystanders, we'll came them fans, want their firefighter to do something about the fire. So all these "firefighters" are rushing into the "fire." Only problem is that the firefighters forgot their equipment, also known as "common sense." The firefighters are so caught up trying to put out the fire early, that they forgot their equipment. Now there's this one firefighter, we'll call him "Ted." Now Ted looks at all those firefighters trying to do something about the fire, and just stands there and smiles to himself. You see, Ted is going to watch all these firefighters fight the fire, not accomplishing much except making the "fans" cheer. Now, once they are all dead, he's going to do something about the "fire" himself. That way he has less work to do and he isn't going to die in the "fire."

            Does this make any sense to anybody or did I have too many?
            What the hell?!? I feel like I just listened to a trailer for the movie Ladder 49!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by packerbacker1234
              First off, your wrong sir.

              We have VERY FEW HOLES on this team.

              The DL is solidified. The OL is Solidified. Our Linebacking Core is solid. Our starting CB's and one safety is solid.

              I think personally Underwood is our answer at safety.

              Offense: Sure RB is a ?, but in the end I see green getting back with us.
              QB: Favre and two young guys, good to go.
              WR: There is a decent Core here. One more to take up a more solid 3 wr slot or possibly a number 2 would be nice, but not required.


              There is no solid FA's in the market this year. The best one out there is prolly injury prone Stokely or Over the Hill Joe Horn. WHich, btw, TT did call Joe Horn if you must know.

              I think we have most of hte pieces already in place. A few upgrades is always welcome, but there isn't much out there int he market thats better then the personel we already have,
              I agree with not going crazy in free agency, but we still have some holes.

              Pop.
              Manuel
              williams (good but not a starter IMO, either way need depth)
              3rd Corner
              WR
              TE
              RB

              That's a lot of holes IMO.
              Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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              • #22
                Exactly Lurker. There is no worth while FA's this year. Most of them would be considered BARELY BETTER then the players on our roster as it is. Most of those FA "upgrades"being older players.

                S we didn't make a run at Grahmn? So what. I think he got over payed as well and obviously if he signed to hsi first deal he wanted to go there all along anyways.

                The FA market is very bare this year with any good upgradeable talent.

                Those safties out there I don't feel are better then Underwood, and hell, Manuel could still be better then those safties out there.

                Manuel had a good year before we took him too. He just doesn't fit our system. He is too damn slow and does not break on the ball. He is a run stopping saftey and we need a Pass stopping one.

                FA Market is weak. Take the fullback for cheap for insurance incase Henderson isn't back and just live with it.

                Use the extra cash to wrap up AG.

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                • #23
                  Yeah...Packerbacker is certainly optimistic. There's a few holes to fill on this team. The Packers have a few positions that could use serious upgrading.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Brando19
                    Originally posted by BallHawk
                    I'm perfectly fine with what TT is doing. He's doing what any smart GM would do.

                    Let's make this a fire analogy.

                    All of the GMs in the league are firefighters and there is this HUGE fire called Free Agency. Now, all the bystanders, we'll came them fans, want their firefighter to do something about the fire. So all these "firefighters" are rushing into the "fire." Only problem is that the firefighters forgot their equipment, also known as "common sense." The firefighters are so caught up trying to put out the fire early, that they forgot their equipment. Now there's this one firefighter, we'll call him "Ted." Now Ted looks at all those firefighters trying to do something about the fire, and just stands there and smiles to himself. You see, Ted is going to watch all these firefighters fight the fire, not accomplishing much except making the "fans" cheer. Now, once they are all dead, he's going to do something about the "fire" himself. That way he has less work to do and he isn't going to die in the "fire."

                    Does this make any sense to anybody or did I have too many?
                    What the hell?!? I feel like I just listened to a trailer for the movie Ladder 49!
                    That's how I got the idea. My brother is watching Ladder 49 in the other room right now!
                    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                    • #25
                      Honestly, the major thing I'm worried about is Ahman. The rest not so much. Hamlin or Grant or Stallworth or Eric Johnson would be nice. Hopefully, Ted's plan works. Seriously, most of these FAs aren't going to make a huge difference. I think Adalius to New England makes the most sense and should work out the best. Drew Bennett? Kevin Curtis? Daniel Graham? Jeff Garcia? Not a lot of these guys are difference makers. Steinbach is a very good player, but asking him to play OT might be much.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                        Originally posted by packerbacker1234
                        First off, your wrong sir.

                        We have VERY FEW HOLES on this team.

                        The DL is solidified. The OL is Solidified. Our Linebacking Core is solid. Our starting CB's and one safety is solid.

                        I think personally Underwood is our answer at safety.

                        Offense: Sure RB is a ?, but in the end I see green getting back with us.
                        QB: Favre and two young guys, good to go.
                        WR: There is a decent Core here. One more to take up a more solid 3 wr slot or possibly a number 2 would be nice, but not required.


                        There is no solid FA's in the market this year. The best one out there is prolly injury prone Stokely or Over the Hill Joe Horn. WHich, btw, TT did call Joe Horn if you must know.

                        I think we have most of hte pieces already in place. A few upgrades is always welcome, but there isn't much out there int he market thats better then the personel we already have,
                        I agree with not going crazy in free agency, but we still have some holes.

                        Pop.
                        Manuel
                        williams (good but not a starter IMO, either way need depth)
                        3rd Corner
                        WR
                        TE
                        RB

                        That's a lot of holes IMO.
                        I don't see TE as a hole. What was the TE's main job last year? Block. What did we excel at with Bubba? Blocking. SO he had had drops late in the year and some fumbles. It wasn't like we used him AT ALL DURING THE SEASON until those moments.

                        I think it was all about how we used bubba. Had little to do with him not having the ability to catch and hold on to the ball. This year the line is more solid so I exspect to see Bubba stretch the field.

                        Besides, there is no upgrade over him in the FA or draft.

                        Corey Williams not starter material? Please. Cullen plays inside on Pass downs and DE on run Downs. KGB for pass downs, Kampman for every down. Picket. And we got some good depth behind those guys that don't see the field much. Johnny Jolly for one. He played solid every chance he had. We have good Depth and DL.

                        3rd Corner.Maybe we have that already Move Blackmon to 3rd Corner and put Dendy at 4th. Remember Blackmon was gonna be that third guy till injury. Lets see what he can do before I start screaming for us to spend big to get someone. Remember, were not going to overpay a 3rd CB. Those CB's out there will get bigger offers elsewhere.

                        WR. I am very happy with our core of WR's. ALthough I'de like another one out there for Play making ability, like McCarthy said we have the play makers already on this damn team. They proved it last year at many times.

                        RB: Assumign we get AG back were solid. Even without AG what is wrong with Morency/Herron? I mean really Morency looked good last year and Herron looks solid every time he touches the ball. In fact, with AG gone I'de want Herron to start.

                        Like McCarthy said, we can move between the 20's.True. Inside the 20 we sucked ass on 1st down. We can fix that with what we currently have. Things like underneath passing and TE's over the middel fix's that. During hte year, TE's were mostly blocking when we passed in the redzone.

                        Mix in the fact that Jennings could still be special and you get the point.

                        There are very few FA's that are upgrades over our current roster.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by packerbacker1234

                          Manuel had a good year before we took him too. He just doesn't fit our system.
                          I'm just curious, what teams are playing a system that is suitable for a slow-footed, poor ball skills safety that's a below average athlete?

                          I don't want Manuel anywhere near the starting lineup when this team breaks camp in late August.

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                          • #28
                            I also have to note, as it has been proven in previous posts on sites across the net, FA's rarely if ever make a damn difference to the outcome of the season.

                            Most of the Super Bowl Team rosters has 19/22 starters all being draft or trade. No FA's.

                            and the FA people on those teams starting are not big names just "ok".

                            Not saying like Woodson didn't make a difference for us last year, but really did we make playoffs? No.

                            FA's wont make or break this team and i am sick of everyone acting like they will.

                            There is no one is this FA poll worth shit except getting AG back.

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                            • #29
                              No need to panic. The youngest team in the league probably has the most room for improvement. Just everyone gettign a year better should bring up a notch.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • #30
                                I agree. Lock AG up. 3 years at 5 per year seems about right after seeing what has gone down.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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