TT speaks about GREEN... "THE truth"

[Bretsky]

Good points Guiness. From Houston's point of view, you passed on Reggie Bush and Vince Young, and now you're signing a 30 year old on the downside to a huge contract.

Bretsky, surely you remember seeing the comment a few times in the papers that while Green was negotiating before free agency, he seemed pretty determined to test the market. I know that comment came up more than once. Isn't it possible he negotiated with the Pack to see what they might offer, so he knew what he'd need to top when he went out a-hunting for a new contract? Had TT given Green the higher offer he apparently made at the end, it's possible - even likely - that that offer would simply have been the parameter that Green would have looked to top. And the Texans did.

We'll have to wait and see. But as for me, I'm glad Ted didn't overpay. It's not like the Packers have now lost their chance at the Super Bowl because of this loss. Had TT overpaid, you'd have set yourself back, especially if TT is trying to sign Barneett long term.

Overpay is a relative term us fans like to use to excuse our GM for choosing to not bring a player back; the market has changed. Everybody has money to spend and the supply is low. Legit players are going to go for more money than they have in the past. Would you prefer Fred Taylor or Ahman Green ? Similar deals.

I'm not using this overpay term anymore because in this market players are worth what the market will bear.

It's not about overpaying or underpaying when everybody has cash; it's about signing the right players and not missing. Time will tell if we did the right thing.


B

[Scott Campbell]

This ain't baseball. As long as there is a salary cap, "overpaid" will be a relevant term.

[Fritz]

Good points Guiness. From Houston's point of view, you passed on Reggie Bush and Vince Young, and now you're signing a 30 year old on the downside to a huge contract.

Bretsky, surely you remember seeing the comment a few times in the papers that while Green was negotiating before free agency, he seemed pretty determined to test the market. I know that comment came up more than once. Isn't it possible he negotiated with the Pack to see what they might offer, so he knew what he'd need to top when he went out a-hunting for a new contract? Had TT given Green the higher offer he apparently made at the end, it's possible - even likely - that that offer would simply have been the parameter that Green would have looked to top. And the Texans did.

We'll have to wait and see. But as for me, I'm glad Ted didn't overpay. It's not like the Packers have now lost their chance at the Super Bowl because of this loss. Had TT overpaid, you'd have set yourself back, especially if TT is trying to sign Barneett long term.

Overpay is a relative term us fans like to use to excuse our GM for choosing to not bring a player back; the market has changed. Everybody has money to spend and the supply is low. Legit players are going to go for more money than they have in the past. Would you prefer Fred Taylor or Ahman Green ? Similar deals.

I'm not using this overpay term anymore because in this market players are worth what the market will bear.

It's not about overpaying or underpaying when everybody has cash; it's about signing the right players and not missing. Time will tell if we did the right thing.


B

You may not be using it, but when Ahman Green is owed five mill coming into his third season for Houston, and he's hurt and slowing and a part-time back, and when Nate Clements is in his fifth year and on the bench or hurt or mediocre, and the Niners owe him five mill, you better believe the fans in those cities will not hesitate to use the term "overpaid."

[LaFours]

Good points Guiness. From Houston's point of view, you passed on Reggie Bush and Vince Young, and now you're signing a 30 year old on the downside to a huge contract.

Bretsky, surely you remember seeing the comment a few times in the papers that while Green was negotiating before free agency, he seemed pretty determined to test the market. I know that comment came up more than once. Isn't it possible he negotiated with the Pack to see what they might offer, so he knew what he'd need to top when he went out a-hunting for a new contract? Had TT given Green the higher offer he apparently made at the end, it's possible - even likely - that that offer would simply have been the parameter that Green would have looked to top. And the Texans did.

We'll have to wait and see. But as for me, I'm glad Ted didn't overpay. It's not like the Packers have now lost their chance at the Super Bowl because of this loss. Had TT overpaid, you'd have set yourself back, especially if TT is trying to sign Barneett long term.

Overpay is a relative term us fans like to use to excuse our GM for choosing to not bring a player back; the market has changed. Everybody has money to spend and the supply is low. Legit players are going to go for more money than they have in the past. Would you prefer Fred Taylor or Ahman Green ? Similar deals.

I'm not using this overpay term anymore because in this market players are worth what the market will bear.

It's not about overpaying or underpaying when everybody has cash; it's about signing the right players and not missing. Time will tell if we did the right thing.


B

But even if you don't want to use the "overpay" term in regards to the free agent market it is still important to think about how these new free agent contracts will resonate with the premiere players already on your team. Offering inflated salaries in Free Agency affects more than just the free agent pool if you look long-term.