Moss Will Not Be A Packer!!!

[imscott72]

"Your telling me to be a fair Packer fan? Aren't you the one that called TT an idiot? And what facts do you present with your arguments? All you say is that TT sucks and the team will suck over and over. I've been asking you for days to present your ideas on how TT should run the team, but I get no response. A man with so many complaints should at least have an idea of what should be done correct?

If you want to drum up possible scenerios, why not one like, TT might actually put together a competitive team this year if we give him half a chance? A negative post once in awhile isn't going to affect anyone, but people tend to gravitate away from people that are constantly negative. In other words, BE HAPPY!!! " imscott72

My response to you imscott72:

I posted this yesterday.

The Green Bay Packers players have to be scrupulously evaluated for cost Vs talent (contribution) to enable an upgrade of OUR team and it's future.The deadwood has to be cut.

This was in my E-Mail fr. Packers.Com this AM:

COACHING STAFF STAYING A STEP AHEAD

It's a new and different off-season for the Green Bay Packers coaching
staff.

Now that they've been together for essentially a full year, the coaches
don't have any less work to do. But the responsibilities have changed from a year ago to the extent that their focus has shifted from the building and
installation of 2006 to the potential progress and improvement in 2007, providing a palpable upbeat nature to the upcoming off-season program and college draft.

"We didn't do scheme evaluations last year of how we performed,
analyzing plays and things of that nature, because we were building a playbook," offensive line coach James Campen said.

"Now it's fun to be able to evaluate your own
guys and see them working within an offense. Instead of speculating on a lot of people,we can see the offense, how it works, and how to make corrections."

The same goes for the defense, which has gone through the same thorough scheme evaluation. And whereas last year a playbook was being developed by defensive coordinator Bob Sanders and his staff based on the scheme of Sanders' mentor, Jim Bates, this year there's a more established foundation for how everything will work.

More - http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2007/03/06/1/


"Your telling me to be a fair Packer fan? Aren't you the one that called TT an idiot? And what facts do you present with your arguments? All you say is that TT sucks and the team will suck over and over." inscott72

Now dig into my posts imscott72 and prove that 'in fact' I've posted the words,as YOU put it:

TT sucks

I have never posted those words; 'in fact' I do believe that overall he is doing as well as we might reasonably expect, given the conditions presented to him.

From an article on OUR situation at RB.We are now aware that Ted Thompson was comfortable with OUR RB's and willing to part with Ahman Green, if he wouldn't agree to a one year contract at about $5 million. As a Packer fan I don't share that comfort.

I do feel that Ahman Green got a sweet deal that Ted Thompson would have extended himself to match.Still I posted that some Packer fans would suffer that loss and I'm one of them.

Secondly on the above I didn't post that Ted Thompson is an idiot.

In fairnes to you, that may have been inferred, but it's not my style to lower myself to namecalling. Again read my posts for verification of that otherwise.

Please re-read that post where I use the word idiot in reference to an East Indian pronouncing that word then maybe you'll get the joke.We have a commercial that runs alot here in Canada for Doritos Corn chips that I'm thinking of when I made that comment.

It was merely a joke imscott72.I have admitted that I have dificulty with Ted Thompson's style, but I wouldn't expect that the General Manager of the Green Bay packers is an idiot.

"A man with so many complaints should at least have an idea of what should be done correct?" imscott72

Where am I complaining imscott72? My posts overwhelmingly are directed at why Ted Thompson hasn't made a splash in FA. I have developed scenarios that justify his direction; never as I re-call posted that he should go after this or that free agent this of season.

I'm growing to understand Ted Thompson more and I'll admit that has been a struggle for me.Certain members of this forum have enabled that growth in me.

This will be a season for evaluating the Packers and not throwing money to waste or good into bad. The consequences of that may show up as a negative in the win - loss column.Time will tell but I trust that Ted Thompsons plan will in the long term render much to cheer about as Packer fans.

I trust that my position is clearer to you with this post and to the forum.

GO PACK GO !

Yes, you called TT an idiot, here in this thread. All I"m sayin is don't rip on me for claiming some east coast journalist's statement being retarded was harsh when your calling our own GM an idiot.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?p=112363&highlight=#112363

As far as TT offering 5 mill to Green, I believe he did. Green still got a better deal from Houston. Your crazy if you think we should have matched that deal.

As far as that email from Packers.com, not sure what that has to do with anything. I was asking for YOUR interpretation of what TT should do since he can't seem to do anything right. All I got from you is "cut the deadwood." What do you mean? Who are you considering "deadwood"?

I'm glad your starting to understand TT and trust in his plan. My point is simple. It's just to early to hang the guy just because he hasn't made a blockbuster deal. History has shown us over and over that simply signing the big name FA's doesn't guarantee you a championship. It just puts you in cap hell. TT is guaranteeing that never happens to us. For goodness sakes, the guy's job depends on whether the team is competitive or not, do you really think he's just going to sit on the 21 million and go with what we have now?

I really don't want to find with ya Woodbuck. Sometimes you just come off strong and it just rubbed me the wrong way this time. I really don't have a problem with you personally, and I'm impressed that you share with us the passion of loving our Packers...Even tho you are Canadian...Just kidding..

[Pacopete4]

the kid called me out.. told me to meet him half way.. i aint backin down to some kid wanting me to fight him for things i said on a forum.. absolutely not

[woodbuck27]

"Yes, you called TT an idiot, here in this thread.

All I"m sayin is don't rip on me for claiming some east coast journalist's statement being retarted was harsh when your calling our own GM an idiot. " imscott72

I didn't rip on you imscott72,rather I tried to come to your rescue. You made an incorrect assumtion.

I will reaffirm this:

Ted Thompson isn't an idiot. K !

commercial >> echoing >> an East Indian father's response to describe his reaction to a suitor's expression of enamour for his daughter.

That was a poor joke on my part. I certainly understand your defense of Ted Thompson here imscott72.


"As far as TT offering 5 mill to Green, I believe he did. Green still got a better deal from Houston. Your crazy if you think we should have matched that deal." imscott72

woodbuck27:

I never posted that TT should have matched the deal that the Texan's offered Ahman Green.You won't find otherwise.

You may decide to infer alot, but I'm about done with this back and forth It's not healthy.

Under the circumstances as we now know them. I believe that Ted Thompson's hands were tied. Not as much by the enormity of Ahman's new contract per season: more by the length and gurantee's of the deal that Ahman Green secured.

Ted Thompsons plan regarding Ahman Green. Was to secure him again for a one year deal.


"As far as that email from Packers.com, not sure what that has to do with anything. I was asking for YOUR interpretation of what TT should do since he can't seem to do anything right. All I got from you is "cut the deadwood." What do you mean? Who are you considering "deadwood"?" imscott72

woodbuck27:

Read to understand my post please, imscott72.

Again.Yesterday I posted that to better shape up OUR CAP, the Packers should in my view through evaluation of it's players, decide to cut all deadwood.

Players that may be considered as cuts, based on knowledge we pass on here, ie Junius Coston or Robert Ferguson

Today in my E-Mail fr. Packer.com I read that 'in fact' that will be the case. You just have to read between the lines to come to that conclusion or the deadwood will be cut.


" I'm glad your starting to understand TT and trust in his plan. My point is simple. It's just to early to hang the guy just because he hasn't made a blockbuster deal. History has shown us over and over that simply signing the big name FA's doesn't guarantee you a championship. It just puts you in cap hell. TT is guaranteeing that never happens to us. For goodness sakes, the guy's job depends on whether the team is competitive or not, do you really think he's just going to sit on the 21 million and go with what we have now? " imscott72

woodbuck27:

I'm not one of the posters here that voted to FIRE Ted Thompson based on anything done not done in this off season.I'm clearly on the fence.

"I really don't want to find with ya Woodbuck. Sometimes you just come off strong and it just rubbed me the wrong way this time. I really don't have a problem with you personally, and I'm impressed that you share with us the passion of loving our Packers...Even tho you are Canadian...Just kidding.. " imscott72

Well. That almost sounds like I got your blessing.

Let's move past this. Please.

[BlueBrewer]

the kid called me out.. told me to meet him half way.. i aint backin down to some kid wanting me to fight him for things i said on a forum.. absolutely not

Settle down little fella, I'm not really gonna come up to Superior and roll you. I have matured somewhat over the years. You did tell me to shut up though and I do take offense to that. Oh and I'm 28 so if that makes me a kid to you then so be it.

[woodbuck27]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

[BlueBrewer]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

I am concerned as well. Actually this is making me sick. I didn't expect him to break the bank, but at least visit with a few people before every last one is gone. Make me think you are trying at least.

[woodbuck27]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

I am concerned as well. Actually this is making me sick. I didn't expect him to break the bank, but at least visit with a few people before every last one is gone. Make me think you are trying at least.

Yea.

What really bothers me is I'm wondering if he even sets it up to determine what some of the useful FA's may want to sign in Green Bay.

I'm only assuming that program ( using a telephone ) may begin around three weeks into it.

I'm just dieing here, I'm laughing so hard.

Ted's a beauty.

[woodbuck27]

Jeeee, all the insanity has this thread the second most viewed on the page.

[MJZiggy]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

I am concerned as well. Actually this is making me sick. I didn't expect him to break the bank, but at least visit with a few people before every last one is gone. Make me think you are trying at least.

Didn't I just read that 10 teams have not signed anyone yet? Isn't that like a full third of the league?

[BlueBrewer]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

I am concerned as well. Actually this is making me sick. I didn't expect him to break the bank, but at least visit with a few people before every last one is gone. Make me think you are trying at least.

Didn't I just read that 10 teams have not signed anyone yet? Isn't that like a full third of the league?

Yes but are they in the top3 in cap money and did they lose there franchise rb?

[woodbuck27]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

I am concerned as well. Actually this is making me sick. I didn't expect him to break the bank, but at least visit with a few people before every last one is gone. Make me think you are trying at least.

Didn't I just read that 10 teams have not signed anyone yet? Isn't that like a full third of the league?

Here comes 'the Cavalry , the TT Gestapo, Elmer Fudd and leading TT cheerleader all wrapped up into one . . .

to the rescue.

Just having a little fun here MJ.

[woodbuck27]

OK !!

Now it's the most observed thread on the 1st page.

So my work here today is done.

[imscott72]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

White flag.....

[imscott72]

OK imscott72.

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

I'm concerned.

No actually I'm now down on the record as saying that. . . .

Ted Thompson is beginning ' to appear to SUCK ' !!

I am concerned as well. Actually this is making me sick. I didn't expect him to break the bank, but at least visit with a few people before every last one is gone. Make me think you are trying at least.

Didn't I just read that 10 teams have not signed anyone yet? Isn't that like a full third of the league?

Yes but are they in the top3 in cap money and did they lose there franchise rb?

I must have missed the part where they moved the NFL season up 6 months to run concurrently with the baseball season...

[Lurker64]

It's now late Wed. 08 March 2007 and Ted Thompson stlll hasn't signed one bona fide FA.

Doesn't that put us in the elite class of the other 1/3 of the NFL that hasn't signed anybody yet? Are the fans of all of those teams freaking out?

Since when is Free Agency a race?