Winners and Losers:First week of FA.

[cpk1994]

Re: TT

so its not just a few of us lunatics that think we're sucking ass at this free agency thing

the nerdy pencil neck guy with horrible hair thinks that too

Believe me red, anyone with the ability to reason can see Thompson has screwed up. He had the money and there were guys out there that could have helped us. But, God forbid we over-pay anyone. In fact when we go 6-12 next season, that can be our official mantra- "Teddy did'nt over-pay anyone".

Then again, anyone paying attention just might realize that what we consider over-paying a player is now becoming the norm in the NFL. Salaries are going up along with the cap. The good GM's are those that realize this.

Packnut, if you want someone who spends a boat load of money on FA, go and become a Vikings fan. And while you are over there drooling over the $100 Million OL and the $20 Miillion upgrade to the D, ask yourself where it got them. I'll even answer that one for you. In the two seasons they spent $120 Million on players, their record went from 10-6 and in the playoffs to 6-10 and not even close. Hell even the Pack, yeah the team with TT, went 8-8 without spending much. FA isn't the cure all you seem to think it is. Or maybe your real name is Dan Snyder.

[b bulldog]

The Green departure did hurt but he was not worth the money he was given.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree with bulldog. Now that I've had time to think about it, I can't blame Thompson for paying $6M/year for Ahman. David Martin is about as big of a loss as Robert Ferguson would be. He'll still make some moves this offseason. More importantly, he needs to have a good draft.

[HarveyWallbangers]

How can Minnesota not be on the list? They signed Visantha Shiancoe and Bobby Wade to a combined $30M over 6 years. How crazy is that?

[Charles Woodson]

Re: TT

so its not just a few of us lunatics that think we're sucking ass at this free agency thing

the nerdy pencil neck guy with horrible hair thinks that too

Believe me red, anyone with the ability to reason can see Thompson has screwed up. He had the money and there were guys out there that could have helped us. But, God forbid we over-pay anyone. In fact when we go 6-12 next season, that can be our official mantra- "Teddy did'nt over-pay anyone".

Then again, anyone paying attention just might realize that what we consider over-paying a player is now becoming the norm in the NFL. Salaries are going up along with the cap. The good GM's are those that realize this.

Packnut, if you want someone who spends a boat load of money on FA, go and become a Vikings fan. And while you are over there drooling over the $100 Million OL and the $20 Miillion upgrade to the D, ask yourself where it got them. I'll even answer that one for you. In the two seasons they spent $120 Million on players, their record went from 10-6 and in the playoffs to 6-10 and not even close. Hell even the Pack, yeah the team with TT, went 8-8 without spending much. FA isn't the cure all you seem to think it is. Or maybe your real name is Dan Snyder.

I have posted this before but i mean our record doesnt mean much yes we beat the Vikings but hell i mean... its the vikings for damn sake


Im not one to put down our play and yes we were "almost" in but if you look at the teams we beat and the teams we lost to, it really isnt impressive

-Wins: Detroit Miami Arizona, Minnesota San Fransisco Detroit Minnesota Chicago.

-Loses: Chicago, New Orleans, Phili, Saint Louis, Buffalo New England Seattle, New York.

Times we blew someone out (more than 10 points): 4 times, Detroit, Miami, Arizona, Chicago

Times we got blown out by someone (more than 10 points): 6 times, Chicago, Phili, Buffalo, New England, New york.

Its just that we had the secound easiest schedule and we won most of the easy games. But theres deffinetley a problem when you get blown out 6 times. Chicago was the only team that we beat that was over .500. I think that stat alone sums up our need for more talent. Yes i recognize that we are a building team, we werent suppose to win that many games last year and we deffinetly exceded my expectations for this team last year but as a building team we still need to add players that didnt perform well last year. TE and Saftey are the largest ones.

[LEWCWA]

Same whiny crap new year. Why sign retreads just to sign them...TT did a nice job last season and will make a couple key pickups again....its called patience...

[PackerPro42]

I'm actually happy that TT is sitting on his wallet right now. To go out and spend a shit load of money on aged player that don't fit our sytem is a rediculous fantasy. TT isn't the GM for nothing, he's knows what he's doing and I trust in him to make the best decisions for the Packers organization. As far as I'm concerned TT is saving money that can be contributed to cheaper FA this year and some good guys again next year. You guys have to be patient, don't be mad that TT didn't spend his whole cap allowance like the Broncos did, in order to get some overaged players that won't contribute for more than a couple years anyways.

[swede]

Agreed and agreed LEWCA and P42.

This is a rebuilding team. We can't plug all these holes on FA. Patience will pay off handsomely in '08.

RG, I do agree with the notion that, like 3 dollar gas, we'll have to get used to 5 mil per year average dudes.

[prsnfoto]

Its just that we had the secound easiest schedule and we won most of the easy games. But theres deffinetley a problem when you get blown out 6 times. Chicago was the only team that we beat that was over .500. I think that stat alone sums up our need for more talent. Yes i recognize that we are a building team, we werent suppose to win that many games last year and we deffinetly exceded my expectations for this team last year but as a building team we still need to add players that didnt perform well last year. TE and Saftey are the largest ones.

This was true going into the season by the end of the year our schedule was actually much more difficult than Chicago's which remained the easiest,we beat the bad teams lost to the good teams and only won one game against a great team. What is more important was that we were close against some good teams,N'O,Ram's(OK),Buffalo(better than their record), the Jets loss was a little scary, NE didn't bother me at all. Ahman hurts but he wasn't worth it, Martin doesn't hurt at all, and I disagree with his take on the D we need a safety maybe some depth at CB our D is fine, TT should sign either Hamlin or Grant, draft 2 D players 6 O players and sign a couple O FA's he will move eventually. I might join your crowd if he really thinks Manuel is suffice at Safety.

[Packnut]

2008

Agreed and agreed LEWCA and P42.

This is a rebuilding team. We can't plug all these holes on FA. Patience will pay off handsomely in '08.

RG, I do agree with the notion that, like 3 dollar gas, we'll have to get used to 5 mil per year average dudes.

What if Favre retires after this season? Name me a franchise that's recovered quickly when the franchise QB retires? All the patience in the world won't mean squat.