Question about zbs...

[KYPack]

Jags has said that there is a difference between zone blocking on a run play and their system. In the Gibbs/Shanahan system, they had four run plays that were the run game. Stretch right/left and Inside right/left.

But I agree, after the putrid output of the running game during the losing streak, we started to see guards pull again. It will be interesting to see if they go back to the four this year, with the young Oline one year older.

The new systems make it tough to communicate. The ZBS is the Alex Gibbs system and is the "Zone" of which we speak. The more traditional zone blocking system goes way back. The Lombardi Packers ran traditional Zone.

The Gibbs system is based on the four plays, but just as important are the 8 - 10 counters, which keep the D honest.

The NFL teams are incorporating the ZBS style in various forms. Haven't seen Baltimore run any of it yet, but most other teams do.

ND, have you seen the "Hybred ZBS" that KC runs?
The entire line slide steps, while facing the DL line.
I kinda liked it

[ND72]

Jags has said that there is a difference between zone blocking on a run play and their system. In the Gibbs/Shanahan system, they had four run plays that were the run game. Stretch right/left and Inside right/left.

But I agree, after the putrid output of the running game during the losing streak, we started to see guards pull again. It will be interesting to see if they go back to the four this year, with the young Oline one year older.

The new systems make it tough to communicate. The ZBS is the Alex Gibbs system and is the "Zone" of which we speak. The more traditional zone blocking system goes way back. The Lombardi Packers ran traditional Zone.

The Gibbs system is based on the four plays, but just as important are the 8 - 10 counters, which keep the D honest.

The NFL teams are incorporating the ZBS style in various forms. Haven't seen Baltimore run any of it yet, but most other teams do.

ND, have you seen the "Hybred ZBS" that KC runs?
The entire line slide steps, while facing the DL line.
I kinda liked it

Yeah, technically, it's not any different than the stretch that Indy runs, just a different technique of doing it. we tried it in college, but we were all to slow and stupid to do it right.

I saw someoen said that the "slide protection" thing "works at HS and college but not in the pros'....I would never run a slide protection in high school, or college. If you run a slide protection you need to loose the ball quickly, I'd rather have my lineman fire out and cut the DL guys down instead of slide protect. I did that very successfully at Winona Cotter for 4 years (cutting hte DL) and have the QB do a 3 step drop...always worked.

[prsnfoto]

Wasn't part of the reason to save money on linemen 6'4" 330 pound guys that can move are rare and the prices for guards were getting to be close to Tackles ala Hutch in Minnesota and now Lenard Davis(though he may play tackle)? Denver and Atlanta have taken scrap heap guys and made them into players.