Griffith signs with Raiders

[gureski]

I am getting pissed. Nobody knows how Griffith ended up with Oakland yet everyone is furious and blaming Thompson to the point that some are calling for him to be fired! How does that makes sense?

Over the past week I've had to listen to guys throw tantrums because the Packers didn't get Randy McMichael and Eric Johnson and R.Droughns, A.Green, T.Henry, and many more I've forgotten because it's all blended together! THompson is getting criticised for not going after Stallworth and Moss and people are bringing up J.Walker and I'm just spent reading the same thing over and over and over! Give me something new! I know there are some that truly felt Griffith was a key to this rebuilding but not all fans that are chirping in here did. Some are just taking advantage of this to spew negativity. I mean, we don't know how this happened yet. Maybe Thompson tried. For some, they don't need details. The signing serves their purpose. It allows them to spew.

[retailguy]

I stand corrected in the age department but my overall point still stands. People are just frothing with negativity right now and every day its' a different player. I can see why some people would be pissed about the FB position and why they'd feel it's key but I haven't actually heard anyone say that and say why they feel it was such a key signing. It's just one big pile-on party right now and it's been going on for days every time a guy gets signed. It's getting old.

What's getting old is the pathological blind defenses of Ted's offseason. Your lines are the ones getting old. This team is not improving. AT ALL.

THERE IS ZERO REASON for this. Unless you're on the 2009 plan.

[gureski]

You guys can lay off the age thing. It was a mistake, not an indication that I'm clueless. It was Atlanta's other FB from last year whose age I was thinking of. His name is Fred McCrary and you can check the age if you don't believe me. McCrary was born in 72.

Now, can anyone follow up on the actual merit of my post or shall we continue with the age side-show that I"ve already admitted was my mistake?

[gureski]

I stand corrected in the age department but my overall point still stands. People are just frothing with negativity right now and every day its' a different player. I can see why some people would be pissed about the FB position and why they'd feel it's key but I haven't actually heard anyone say that and say why they feel it was such a key signing. It's just one big pile-on party right now and it's been going on for days every time a guy gets signed. It's getting old.

What's getting old is the pathological blind defenses of Ted's offseason. Your lines are the ones getting old. This team is not improving. AT ALL.

THERE IS ZERO REASON for this. Unless you're on the 2009 plan.

You are exactly what I'm ripe for a fight with. Tell me....please tell me what we've missed that is so important to the success of this coming season and our overall rebuilding process? Tell me what Thompson missed on that can't be had in the way of another player that is currently out there in free agency or in the draft!

Give me names and common sense based reasoning as to why the players you feel we missed on were the thing this team needed!

The fact is that you are soured on Thompson. It doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do. You're just using the fact that everyone is dying to see a signing to spew your negativity. A month from now, after many fans have settled down and have gotten behind what is going to happen, you'll be all alone but right now.....it's your time....right?

[red]

lets see, why are people upset about not getting this guy

we need a FB, and we run the ZBS

he is a FB, and a pretty good one

he's young

and he already knows the ZBS, and has played in it

and he didn't cost a ton of money

if there was one guy in the open market this year that would have been a perfect signing for this team, this would have been the guy

tt brought him in, took his time, jerked the guy around and watched him walk out and sign with another team

[retailguy]

I'll be all alone until week 4 when the rest of the bandwagon jumpers realize there is no one to run the ball.

Morency was good, WHEN AND ONLY WHEN, the line performed well. He SUCKED when the line sucked. That's the difference between him and Green.

The line has a ways to go and will face some SERIOUS defenses next season. Have you bothered to look at the schedule? I have and it's TOUGH.

Last season we beat ONE team with a winning record. Next season it's looking like ZERO.

As to fighting - nope not tonight. Your brand of irrationality is more than I can handle tonight.

Why don't you curl up with your Ted Thompson rookie card and head off to bed. Tomorrow is another day...

[gureski]

tt brought him in, tood his time, jerked the guy around and watched him walk out and sign with another team

And how do you know that Thompson jerked the guy around? Where do you get off assuming that the Packers didn't make a real effort to get Griffith?

Share the details that you have, why don't you. We'd all love to hear them. I doubt you have any deatails on how this went down right now though. My bet is that you're not really interested in knowing the details though. In your mind, you already know Thompson was at fault.

[falco]

retailguy, at least I give you credit for being consistent.

Its the other people, who lauded TT for his method and lambasted Mike Sherman for his, who should have a hard time justifying such a position now.

[red]

tt brought him in, tood his time, jerked the guy around and watched him walk out and sign with another team

And how do you know that Thompson jerked the guy around? Where do you get off assuming that the Packers didn't make a real effort to get Griffith?

Share the details that you have, why don't you. We'd all love to hear them. I doubt you have any deatails on how this went down right now though. My bet is that you're not really interested in knowing the details though. In your mind, you already know Thompson was at fault.

Packers | Team talking with Griffith
Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:41:48 -0800

Pete Dougherty, of the Green Bay Press-Gazette, reports the Green Bay Packers are believed to be in contract negotiations with unrestricted free-agent FB Justin Griffith (Falcons). The negotiations do not seem urgent.

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you bring a guy in and act like he's no big deal. you act like he's not important. he'll go somewhere that wants him

[gbpackfan]

So let me get this straight. We should go out and sign no one? Every other GM in the league is signing people EXCEPT for Ted Thompson. So I guess because Thompson works for the Packers, he is the one who knows everything. Everyone else is wrong. There are some players that were out there that could have helped the Packers.

1. Justin Griffith - PERFECT FIT HERE, TT let him go.
2. Randy McMichael - This team BADLY needs a pass catching TE. We have NO depth behind the blocking Franks. We basically have NO pass catching TEs.
3. Roderick Hood - This team needs a nickel back in the worst way. Not only could he be the 3rd corner, but he may even be the answer in a year or two when Harris' play starts to slip. Not to mention he returns kicks!
4. ANY OFFENSIVE PLAYMAKER. Your telling me that isnt one guy (or wasn't) that could have helped the Packers put some points up? Stallworth? Bennett? McMichaels? Even Stevens could help!

Just because we don't agree with the GM of the Green Bay Packers doesn't make us fair weather fans or stupid. It is fairly obvious that the Packers have HUGE holes on both sides of the ball that can't all be filled via the draft. Now can TT fix this team. Sure. But he is going to have to do some wheeling and dealing and start closing some f-ing deals!

[falco]

No offense, but you're assuming an awful lot from that one line. Was the reporter that posted it present at the negotiations?

[retailguy]

retailguy, at least I give you credit for being consistent.

Its the other people, who lauded TT for his method and lambasted Mike Sherman for his, who should have a hard time justifying such a position now.

Yep, if it wasn't so sad, I think I'd laugh.

I've been patient and supportive of Thompson since he got here. I am finding it very difficult to continue. The sad part is that Thompson has proven himself to be a really great evaluator of talent, but not such a great GM. If all he had to do was evaluate talent, we'd probably be OK.

Unfortunately, there's a lot more to the job than that. For me, at least, that's the problem.

Dealing with the OTHER aspects of Free Agency have proven difficult for Thompson. Either he's the greatest poker player I've ever seen, or he's clueless. Sadly, I'm betting on the latter.

He has ZERO comprehension that his words (or lack thereof) are speaking QUITE loudly to all available agents and players right now.

[falco]

retailguy, at least I give you credit for being consistent.

Its the other people, who lauded TT for his method and lambasted Mike Sherman for his, who should have a hard time justifying such a position now.

Yep, if it wasn't so sad, I think I'd laugh.

I've been patient and supportive of Thompson since he got here. I am finding it very difficult to continue. The sad part is that Thompson has proven himself to be a really great evaluator of talent, but not such a great GM. If all he had to do was evaluate talent, we'd probably be OK.

Unfortunately, there's a lot more to the job than that. For me, at least, that's the problem.

Dealing with the OTHER aspects of Free Agency have proven difficult for Thompson. Either he's the greatest poker player I've ever seen, or he's clueless. Sadly, I'm betting on the latter.

He has ZERO comprehension that his words (or lack thereof) are speaking QUITE loudly to all available agents and players right now.

I haven't given up on Thompson yet; we are only a week into FA. However, if the team takes a major step back this year (and it will if it doesn't get some talent on the offense), TT is a goner. Because if we suck this year with Favre, and you know Favre won't be back if thats the case, the next year after that is going to be horrible.

[gureski]

It's like the Twilight Zone in here right now! Now Sherman's GM ability is vindicated?

What the hell is happening?

Retail is sure we're going to face tough teams before free agency, the draft, and final rosters are even formed? HELL, OUR ROSTER isn't even formed but you're just dead set that it wont be enough!

I've called Thompson an idiot when he deserved it. He doesn't deserve the crap you guys are giving him right now. You ignored it in another thread so I'll say it again here....the O-Line will improve if only because those young guys will have had a full year and off-season in the offense. They will no longer have to think about assignments and will be able to concentrate more on their technique. Morency is a very quick RB. He's also fast. He's exactly what you'd want in a ZBS RB. He may not be the answer but it's too early to say! Who the hell was A.Green when the Packers dug him out of Seattle and stuck him in front of the Pro-Bowler D.Levens? And then there is the draft where the team could easily get a RB or the fact that guys like Chris Brown and C.Dillon are still out there in free agency. But you see nothing but hell, brimbstone, and fire! It's hopeless to you.

I happen to truly believe that there is reason to hope here. The only people who are dead set on doom and gloom are those that want it to happen. You want doom and gloom because you've tied yourself to it. You've tied yourself to it and you will hang from it when you're proven wrong.

[red]

No offense, but you're assuming an awful lot from that one line. Was the reporter that posted it present at the negotiations?

were you there, do you know different?

did TT shower him with flowers and cookies?

him leaving without a deal is enough for me to think TT wasn't showing him any love. other teams bring in guys and won't let them leave until we have a deal in place. we bring them in and tell them to keep looking