Griffith signs with Raiders

[retailguy]

Re: Thompson

You are just as guilty as those you complain about for posing as fact that which is not yet proven.

If Green goes out and drops off the ledge of production as Earl Campbell and Eddie George did from one season to the next, or if his leg gives out in preseason, the Packers did not lose in the deal, they GAINED. If they find a young runner or runners at substantially less cost who can perform as well as Green would THIS year (they don't have to be the Green of 2003, because Green himself no longer is) the Packers have not suffered a loss. In fact, with less cost and a longer future, they will have gained.

Losing out in the bidding for Green could be bad for Green Bay, or it could be the best thing that happened to them. We won't know until later.

Much the same thing happened with Marco Rivera. Again they had the opportunity to match what Dallas offered. In the long run, its fortunate that they let him go. We could all be saying the same thing about Green next year.

Patler, if you read my posts carefully, you'll see that the "loss" is that Ahman Green is gone. That doesn't have anything to do with money. Claiming that he could get injured is a "much different thing". Every team is succeptible to that.

You know what my point is, please don't try to distort it.

Losing a back with Green's ability is a loss, even if it becomes the right financial decision.

[b bulldog]

It is only a loss if we can find a suitable replacement but you view the loss much greater than I. He is the only real player we have lost to date so we are pretty much standing still at the moment.

[Bretsky]

Well, here is the proof St. Lou was right. There really is a "clique" in here.

Funny how all I did was respond to Idle using the same language and credentials he had and you are all picking on me but not him.

WHY?

Simple

"The mob" agrees with him.

Even Bretsky.... Well, I expected better but not surprised.

What are you talking about ? I make a joke that is consistent with how I post on a daily basis ? I believe yesterday I was calling myself an @sshole; today I have a BS. If that was offensive it certainly was not meant to be; take a chill pill.

[b bulldog]

B, I find you very offensive and on a daily basis at that.

[Joemailman]

It is only a loss if we can find a suitable replacement but you view the loss much greater than I. He is the only real player we have lost to date so we are pretty much standing still at the moment.

I agree. Thus far we have lost a good, but not great running back, a talented but undependable and injury-prone Tight End, and a once great Fullback who mostly warmed the bench last year. I suspect there are moves other than the draft that will be made to strengthen this team. Time will tell.

[retailguy]

What are you talking about ? I make a joke that is consistent with how I post on a daily basis ? I believe yesterday I was calling myself an @sshole; today I have a BS. If that was offensive it certainly was not meant to be; take a chill pill.

Bretsky, you "piled on". It's part of the mob mentality. You participated. I'm disappointed. Why should you care? I thought I'd get better. I was wrong. I learned. I'm a quick study.

[Bretsky]

What are you talking about ? I make a joke that is consistent with how I post on a daily basis ? I believe yesterday I was calling myself an @sshole; today I have a BS. If that was offensive it certainly was not meant to be; take a chill pill.

Bretsky, you "piled on". It's part of the mob mentality. You participated. I'm disappointed. Why should you care? I thought I'd get better. I was wrong. I learned. I'm a quick study.

My apologies for offending; no harm or intention of piling on was meant by my crack

[retailguy]

It is only a loss if we can find a suitable replacement but you view the loss much greater than I. He is the only real player we have lost to date so we are pretty much standing still at the moment.

I agree. Thus far we have lost a good, but not great running back, a talented but undependable and injury-prone Tight End, and a once great Fullback who mostly warmed the bench last year. I suspect there are moves other than the draft that will be made to strengthen this team. Time will tell.

Hope you're right Joe. I'm not that optimistic. I think that Ahman's loss affects the early season play, much the same as the OL did last year.

I'm quite sure that they can "plug" someone in, however, it takes time to get that person up to speed. That's bad news for a successful 2007 season. In my mind, thats a big loss.

[retailguy]

My apologies for offending; no harm was meant by my crack

I'm a quick study, I won't put myself in that position again. Cross the mob - GET FUCKED and attacked.

It's simple really.

[b bulldog]

I think your making Green to be more than he was but we'll see once the season starts. My biggest question so far is how did TT allow Griffith to sign in Oakland?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Well, here is the proof St. Lou was right. There really is a "clique" in here.

Funny how all I did was respond to Idle using the same language and credentials he had and you are all picking on me but not him.

Seriously, what are you talking about? You are more of the "clique" than idle. You have more friggin' posts than he does and have been here longer.

Who cares what the "mob" thinks. Stand your ground. I find myself at odds with that dickweed Bretsky quite often.

[Bretsky]

Well, here is the proof St. Lou was right. There really is a "clique" in here.

Funny how all I did was respond to Idle using the same language and credentials he had and you are all picking on me but not him.

Seriously, what are you talking about? You are more of the "clique" than idle. You have more friggin' posts than he does and have been here longer.

Who cares what the "mob" thinks. Stand your ground. I find myself at odds with that dickweed Bretsky quite often.

Hey, Go find a Tight end, Wide Receiver, and Safety to sign, will ya ??

[retailguy]

I think your making Green to be more than he was but we'll see once the season starts. My biggest question so far is how did TT allow Griffith to sign in Oakland?

Because he doesn't "value" free agents. His perspective appears to be that they are all overpriced.

Bargain basement deals are a great thing, but paying fair value should be ok too.

I don't get this one either bulldog. I dont' think a FB makes a huge difference, but I think this guy could've got up to speed quickly since he's experienced in the system. Quicker than a rookie anyhow.

But really, relying on Morency has bigger problems than a fullback. I really, really think you minimize the impact of Ahman Green.

We'll see. That's why they play the game.

[retailguy]

Seriously, what are you talking about? You are more of the "clique" than idle. You have more friggin' posts than he does and have been here longer.

Who cares what the "mob" thinks. Stand your ground. I find myself at odds with that dickweed Bretsky quite often.

I have stood my ground and will continue to do so. I'm right after all.

I'm just tired of it Harvey. I went "in your face" for a reason. Everyone thinks I "went nuts" but that's OK. I'm really tired of the 'piling on'.

[Joemailman]

I think your making Green to be more than he was but we'll see once the season starts. My biggest question so far is how did TT allow Griffith to sign in Oakland?

I wonder if it was just about money. The new OC in Oakland coached Griffith in Atlanta. I wonder if that may have been a factor.