Can someone explain what T.T. is doing...

[RashanGary]

If the Packers are going to grow, it's going ot be from within just like every other team in the NFL. FA is the absolute worste way to fill a hole and should always be a last resort.

We don't have any holes as bad as CB was last year and with that in mind; I could care less if we get any FA's at all.

I'm looking forward to the draft. I'm also hopefull that the youngest team in the league gets alot better with a year of experience under everyones belts.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sorry, Pickett was signed on St. Patricks Day last year.

Today is only March 10th.

Why be impatient in free agency??

Few free agents even made the team.

You can't be serious. Somebody pointed out that FA started later last year. Of the three major FAs that we signed (guys that got $2M+/year), two were signed in the first week of FA.

Who is the Charles Woodson that is available this year? There is none. Thompson used the same strategy as last year, but the FA class is weaker. The guys that this team should have targeted are mostly gone.

[MacCool606]

It's looking to me that the FA's we get will be nothing more that upgrading our depth.

[KYPack]

Also Ryan and Rayner were added at some point and appear to be solid kicking propects.

We NEED a safety like we needed another corner.

I was thinking of joining the "Anti-TT crowd", it's always more fun to bitch, but so far he hasn't paid any stupid money in the FA grab. That's part of doing a good GM job, but it is boring to the fans.

FA and the adding new talent process is only about 30% complete. many of us need to take a chill pill and see how he develops the roster.

Sorry, but it's true. It's a weak FQA crop and the ones that signed got stupid money. Waiting does make sense.

Somebody wanna make a stab at the "what's left ande who might get squeezed off a roster and be available" list?

[Bretsky]

Hey, just think B, if TT would have signed Bently and Witherspoon along with Woodson last year we would have two guys who dont' make a difference, one guy who does *woodson* and we would be against the cap like the idiot before him.

Then we'd have no money now to talk about redoing Barnett. Jenkins would probably get the one year tender instead of his reasonable deal.

But hey, we could get alot better now. Fact is we probably won't and when it comes to keeping Barnett next season it will be very tough.

Honestly, I'm not a huge Barnett fan but looking at this list of FA's makes me realize someithing. He's better than all of them excetp Clements and he'll come alot cheaper if we lock him up early.

I'd take Barnett on a long term deal over any FA out there right now. Taht is acctually what I"m hoping for.

I was never a Bently guy; I was a Witherspon and Hope guy.

But if we sign those two guys, we structure the Woodson deal differently.

Today we would not have as much in our cap but we'd have two less holes to fill as well.

Cheers,
B

[Joemailman]

I think B has blatently ripped off Tank's polar bear theme - right down to the avatar. All he needs now is:

Ted is Trapped In His Tortoise Shell - Chapter 13.

Michele is the new Polar Bear. I'm thinking of going back to the Kool-Aid avatar, since Retail Guy seems to have deserted the Krowd.

[GBRulz]

What? Can't a girl just have a pic of a cute little ol Polar Bear ?

[red]

i think herron and miree are the same nfle players that were once mentioned as guys that should not be on the team

edit: how the hell did this get posted in this thread. i was posting it in another thread?

[Fritz]

I think people are just getting tired of winter, bored and antsy. So they're waiting and getting ticked at TT out of frustration.

Okay, so GB isn't going to win the Free Agent championship. Darn. But let's see how the that other season - playing season - goes.

[Bretsky]

I think people are just getting tired of winter, bored and antsy. So they're waiting and getting ticked at TT out of frustration.

Okay, so GB isn't going to win the Free Agent championship. Darn. But let's see how the that other season - playing season - goes.

THANK GOD FOR THE BADGERS

[4and12to12and4]

If the Packers are going to grow, it's going ot be from within just like every other team in the NFL. FA is the absolute worste way to fill a hole and should always be a last resort.

We don't have any holes as bad as CB was last year and with that in mind; I could care less if we get any FA's at all.

I'm looking forward to the draft. I'm also hopefull that the youngest team in the league gets alot better with a year of experience under everyones belts.

I have to agree here, and as much as I'd like to see TT throwing money around, honestly, there isn't anyone out there worth throwing it at. The best FA in my opinion was Adalius Thomas, and that would have been a stupid move to unload the bank on him, considering he plays primarily at a position which happens to be one of our strengths. Maybe we should have gone after Grant a little harder, but, he, just like all these other free agents this year, are being signed by teams for more than they are worth due to the lack of depth, and it just shows you why so many organizations never get over that hump, because they don't know what the hell they are doing. Look at the Redskins the last three years, they have spent ALL their money trying to buy the Lombardi Trophy through FA and what good has it done them?

Listen, TT is doing this the right way. Think of the success the Patriots have had. They run their business very similar to how TT is running things here at 1265. The only reason they are going on a bit of a splurge this offseason (Thomas and Stallworth) is because they were 2 quarters away from the Superbowl last year with a 21-6 lead. It is the same thing Wolf and Co. did by signing Reggie, and then getting Desmond and Bad Moon. We KNEW we were a couple of pieces away from having a DOMINATING team. Can any of you REALISTICALLY say that we should be spending this offseason to get to the Superbowl next year? Take those goggles off if answer is yes.

Look, I know there is a feeling of desperation here because this is probably Favre's last year, but I don't think that TT can look at it that way. If he panics thinking he has to assemble a championship team before Favre retires, we will be in a worse financial mess than when Sherman was here (remember, the guy who just paid Ahmad a billion dollar contract). As long as our defense continues to get deeper with talent (especially CB's and safetys) and our offensive line shows continued improvement and we get some more depth there, the wins will start to pile up and we can consider ourselves ready for a run at it. If Favre is gone by then, so be it. There's no other way to go about it. If we get REAL lucky and that happens sooner than later, than maybe Brett carries another Trophy around, but the odds are not with us for that, so let's remember, we ARE rebuilding, not getting those last couple of pieces like the Patriots. And if that doesn't work, go to your doctor and tell him you have migrane headaches, and get yourself some Vicadin for the rest of the offseason.

[The Shadow]

Well said.

[BooHoo]

Looks like the real changes to this years team will be from the draft. if you wait for TT to make huge gains thru FA, you will be very disappointed.

[cpk1994]

If the Packers are going to grow, it's going ot be from within just like every other team in the NFL. FA is the absolute worste way to fill a hole and should always be a last resort.

We don't have any holes as bad as CB was last year and with that in mind; I could care less if we get any FA's at all.

I'm looking forward to the draft. I'm also hopefull that the youngest team in the league gets alot better with a year of experience under everyones belts.

I have to agree here, and as much as I'd like to see TT throwing money around, honestly, there isn't anyone out there worth throwing it at. The best FA in my opinion was Adalius Thomas, and that would have been a stupid move to unload the bank on him, considering he plays primarily at a position which happens to be one of our strengths. Maybe we should have gone after Grant a little harder, but, he, just like all these other free agents this year, are being signed by teams for more than they are worth due to the lack of depth, and it just shows you why so many organizations never get over that hump, because they don't know what the hell they are doing. Look at the Redskins the last three years, they have spent ALL their money trying to buy the Lombardi Trophy through FA and what good has it done them?

Listen, TT is doing this the right way. Think of the success the Patriots have had. They run their business very similar to how TT is running things here at 1265. The only reason they are going on a bit of a splurge this offseason (Thomas and Stallworth) is because they were 2 quarters away from the Superbowl last year with a 21-6 lead. It is the same thing Wolf and Co. did by signing Reggie, and then getting Desmond and Bad Moon. We KNEW we were a couple of pieces away from having a DOMINATING team. Can any of you REALISTICALLY say that we should be spending this offseason to get to the Superbowl next year? Take those goggles off if answer is yes.

Look, I know there is a feeling of desperation here because this is probably Favre's last year, but I don't think that TT can look at it that way. If he panics thinking he has to assemble a championship team before Favre retires, we will be in a worse financial mess than when Sherman was here (remember, the guy who just paid Ahmad a billion dollar contract). As long as our defense continues to get deeper with talent (especially CB's and safetys) and our offensive line shows continued improvement and we get some more depth there, the wins will start to pile up and we can consider ourselves ready for a run at it. If Favre is gone by then, so be it. There's no other way to go about it. If we get REAL lucky and that happens sooner than later, than maybe Brett carries another Trophy around, but the odds are not with us for that, so let's remember, we ARE rebuilding, not getting those last couple of pieces like the Patriots. And if that doesn't work, go to your doctor and tell him you have migrane headaches, and get yourself some Vicadin for the rest of the offseason.

Amen and great post. IF you think throwing money around in FA is a cure all, ask yourself one question: What has spending a lot of money gotten the Minnesota Vikings? Answer: 6-10 and at home watching the playoffs on TV with a worse recrod than the team who uses the draft to rebuild.

[Bretsky]

If the Packers are going to grow, it's going ot be from within just like every other team in the NFL. FA is the absolute worste way to fill a hole and should always be a last resort.

We don't have any holes as bad as CB was last year and with that in mind; I could care less if we get any FA's at all.

I'm looking forward to the draft. I'm also hopefull that the youngest team in the league gets alot better with a year of experience under everyones belts.

I have to agree here, and as much as I'd like to see TT throwing money around, honestly, there isn't anyone out there worth throwing it at. The best FA in my opinion was Adalius Thomas, and that would have been a stupid move to unload the bank on him, considering he plays primarily at a position which happens to be one of our strengths. Maybe we should have gone after Grant a little harder, but, he, just like all these other free agents this year, are being signed by teams for more than they are worth due to the lack of depth, and it just shows you why so many organizations never get over that hump, because they don't know what the hell they are doing. Look at the Redskins the last three years, they have spent ALL their money trying to buy the Lombardi Trophy through FA and what good has it done them?

Listen, TT is doing this the right way. Think of the success the Patriots have had. They run their business very similar to how TT is running things here at 1265. The only reason they are going on a bit of a splurge this offseason (Thomas and Stallworth) is because they were 2 quarters away from the Superbowl last year with a 21-6 lead. It is the same thing Wolf and Co. did by signing Reggie, and then getting Desmond and Bad Moon. We KNEW we were a couple of pieces away from having a DOMINATING team. Can any of you REALISTICALLY say that we should be spending this offseason to get to the Superbowl next year? Take those goggles off if answer is yes.

Look, I know there is a feeling of desperation here because this is probably Favre's last year, but I don't think that TT can look at it that way. If he panics thinking he has to assemble a championship team before Favre retires, we will be in a worse financial mess than when Sherman was here (remember, the guy who just paid Ahmad a billion dollar contract). As long as our defense continues to get deeper with talent (especially CB's and safetys) and our offensive line shows continued improvement and we get some more depth there, the wins will start to pile up and we can consider ourselves ready for a run at it. If Favre is gone by then, so be it. There's no other way to go about it. If we get REAL lucky and that happens sooner than later, than maybe Brett carries another Trophy around, but the odds are not with us for that, so let's remember, we ARE rebuilding, not getting those last couple of pieces like the Patriots. And if that doesn't work, go to your doctor and tell him you have migrane headaches, and get yourself some Vicadin for the rest of the offseason.

Amen and great post. IF you think throwing money around in FA is a cure all, ask yourself one question: What has spending a lot of money gotten the Minnesota Vikings? Answer: 6-10 and at home watching the playoffs on TV with a worse recrod than the team who uses the draft to rebuild.

That logic is extemely flawed; where did NO signing some very key free agents get them last year ? 3-13 to one game from the Super Bowl.

There were MANY more factors involved in MN demise. Just like there were many reasons NO came back.

Free agency is a tool a GM can chose to use to help his team, IF you choose to play.