I propose a question to those with panties in a bunch: Who?

[Freak Out]

Griffith.

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I am simply asking who. Everyone is grumbling about how TT is not active in free agency and it is irritating.

Who should he have signed?

Daniel Graham? We already have bubba franks to be a 3rd tackle.
Eric Johnson - Maybe?

Who who who?!??!?!?

Deon Grant S
Justin Griffith FB
Eroc Johnson TE


The last two were cheap and better than what we had after that I agree with you they could have went after a RB but most will only be a guy Morency might be a guy. The problem is now since they have addressed nothing all the holes can't be filled by the draft so unless TT finds some gems on the scrap heap we go into next season without improvement.

But, do you really want Eric Johnson long term? He cannot stay healthy. These guys aren't going to take a one year deal when they can get more guaranteed money by taking a 5 year, even if they may not see it all or not.

Griffith is another that could be argued for, but he's a fullback so it doesn't matter too much. TT probably should have signed him, though.

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I would say, TE Randy McMichael would have been wise to pursue. With the cap going up quite a bit each year, and also the possibility of gaining much more space when Favre retires, most likely after this year, it also makes it feasible to resign Barnett to a long term deal. Maybe Hodge could take over for Barnett in two years who the hell knows. I'm not for signing all big names, but when you see obvious upgrades and the team can afford it, without sacrificing the long term, you do it. Would McMichael have fit in Green Bay, who the hell knows. Will our #16 pick be in the league for more than 3 yrs, no one knows. If it's Lynch, will he turn out to be another Darrell Thompson? Building through the draft is great, but you need a little seasoning here or there of capable Free Agents.

Another FA I thought would be worth a shot, would be Rod Hood, he'd be perfect to be our nickel corner for a year or two, and take over for Harris after that.

McMichael is 27, and Rod Hood is 25 and both could have been capable of helping the team for years, not to mention a receiving TE is a young QB's best friend when it's their first year starting.

So explain to me how these moves put Green Bay not in position to resign our key players?

If Barnett leaves after next year it won't be because Green Bay doesn't have the money, it's because he can make more on the open market than what Green Bay is offering, I'm sure he's seeing that already, and he's as good as gone next year. Unless TT Franchises him.

Rod Hood should be signed if at all possible, but I think he is going to want to start.

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Re: I propose a question to those with panties in a bunch:

Who should we have signed?

We all wish we had Ahman Green back but he didn't want any of that.

Who cares? He was a 30 year old running back who can't stay healthy.

Now, since people are complaining for the sake of complaining, exactly who should we have signed thats going to step in and contribute immediately and be a massive upgrade? You could argue Steinbach, and thats well and good, but we already spent a second round pick on Darren Colledge. Are you going to throw in the towel on him?

The one player a fair argument could be made for is Deon Grant.

Who should we have signed??!?

Other than Green's major injury in '05, what playing time has he missed for you to say "he can't stay healthy" ?

I agree the FA pool is a little thin and there is alot of overpaying going on. But really, what is overpaying when the cap has gone up substantially over the past two years?

Yes, I'm still ticked that Green was let go. Other than that, I really would have liked to see us get Griffith.

And I don't think people are complaining for the sake of complaining. This team is on the upswing and it seems like we're creating more holes to fill instead of taking a step forward. Couple that with the tough schedule next year and I think people have every right to be concerned.

He has played in 67% of the games since 2004. That is 2/3 of the time. Not great by any means.

I think they should have tried to keep Green for one year. Give him 10 mil guaranteed? He's gonna be a one-and-done'r in Texas.

I don't know if the moves the Pack are making are good or not, but they haven't won a playoff game since 2003, and before that haven't done anything in the playoffs in years. Maybe addition by subtraction is what they need? Time will tell.

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I think the RBs were all overpriced. I really don't mind what Thompson is doing at RB. I'm also cool that we haven't brought in a 3rd WR. The draft is deep at WR.

Randy McMichael would have been perfect for what we need. He wasn't overpriced either. There's no TE left that remotely compares to McMichael.

Justin Griffith would have been perfect for this offense. He wasn't overpriced either.

Deon Grant or Ken Hamlin were the safeties I wanted. Hamlin is still available. Grant is gone.

Rod Hood is the nickel corner I coveted. I'd settle for Frank Walker.

We could have easily have afforded 3 of these guys without long-term cap ramifications.

See, now this is logical. McMichael could be good and he is a player in the past I have been a fan of. I simply question why he was released in exchange for David Martin. Something doesn't add up there, and his numbers went down big time last year.

Griffith would have been good, but I am not too worried because he's a fullback. Too bad though, the price was right.

Stay away from Hamlin. I think he is overrated and an injury risk.

Hood would be amazing, but I think he'll want to start.

[MJZiggy]

Rod Hood should be signed if at all possible, but I think he is going to want to start.

Hood is now a Cardinal. Too late.

[HarveyWallbangers]

See, now this is logical. McMichael could be good and he is a player in the past I have been a fan of. I simply question why he was released in exchange for David Martin. Something doesn't add up there, and his numbers went down big time last year.

Actually, his numbers didn't go down at all. In fact, he had the second best season of his career.

2002 - 39 rec, 485 yds
2003 - 49 rec, 598 yds
2004 - 73 rec, 791 yds
2005 - 60 rec, 582 yds
2006 - 62 rec, 640 yds

I think he might an a-hole though. Still, he's a great receiving TE that would have fit perfect with the Packers, and he was signed for under $4M/year. He's only 27 years old.

Hamlin would be an upgrade on Manuel. He started over him in Seattle. He might be a little overrated (he was a Pro Bowl alternate), but I'd feel comfortable going into the season with him as the starting S next to Collins. To me, he has a much better chance of being a good starter than Manuel, Underwood, or Culver. Sure, we could draft a rookie that could be better, but we have so many holes to fill in the draft that we aren't going to be able to fill them all with just the draft.

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See, now this is logical. McMichael could be good and he is a player in the past I have been a fan of. I simply question why he was released in exchange for David Martin. Something doesn't add up there, and his numbers went down big time last year.

Hamlin would be an upgrade on Manuel. He started over him in Seattle. He might be a little overrated (he was a Pro Bowl alternate), but I'd feel comfortable going into the season with him as the starting S next to Collins. To me, he has a much better chance of being a good starter than Manuel, Underwood, or Culver. Sure, we could draft a rookie that could be better, but we have so many holes to fill in the draft that we aren't going to be able to fill them all with just the draft.

Touche on the McMichael thing. I was rather unimpressed with his FF performance so I guess I assumed they went down. Those are pretty darn solid numbers for the guy (especially without a QB) and he doesn't seem to have any injury problems. He would have been a good signing.

Hamlin would certainly be better than Manual, but he wouldn't take a one or two year deal. I don't know that he is the long term answer there and sometimes it just isn't worth the risk. Remember, its a 5k not a sprint.

[GBRulz]

Re: I propose a question to those with panties in a bunch:

He has played in 67% of the games since 2004. That is 2/3 of the time. Not great by any means.

67%?? I came up with 71% but whatever.

2001 - started 100% of games
2002 - started 88% of games
2003 - started 100% of games
2004 - started 94% of games
2005 - started 31% of games
2006 - started 88% of games

Started 84% of games if you look at the big picture. This is STARTING. He has played in other games, too in which he hasn't started. Ya know, if you are down on Green, that's fine, but give the guy credit for being a durable back for the most part.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Technically, he said since 2004. Still misleading numbers. He had the first serious injury of his career and missed most of the 2005 season, so the numbers are going to be skewed.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I've come to the conclusion that letting Ahman go was probably the right thing, but the fact we've been non-existent in the FA market isn't. There were some good players signed to reasonable deals (Griffith, Grant, McMichael, Johnson). We should have had at least two of those guys.

[falco]

he hasn't been the same since he got injured in 2004...just a little bit fragile...never knowing what his injury status will be week to week.

not taking anything away from him at all; just saying, he hasn't been dependable the last 3 years.

[GBRulz]

Technically, he said since 2004. Still misleading numbers. He had the first serious injury of his career and missed most of the 2005 season, so the numbers are going to be skewed.

You are correct, he did say 2004. I missed that. it's misleading when people leave out half the facts to try and make a point though.

[Joemailman]

This may be the reason Miami let McMichael go:

Legal troubles

McMichael was arrested on July 9, 2005 in Columbia County, Georgia after witnesses told police he gave his wife a bloody nose. His wife, Cawanna McMichael, told police the contact with her husband was an accident as he was throwing some of her belongings out of their 1984 Cadillac Coupe de Ville. Witnesses told police they saw McMichael throw his wife from the car. One witness told police he saw the athlete throw his wife away from the vehicle several times, according to the report. Cawanna McMichael was treated at the scene. According to the police report, McMichael had two glasses of wine and several beers before arguing with his wife, but he refused to take a field Breathalyzer test. [2]

This marked the second domestic incident for McMichael. Prosecutors decided not to file charges after McMichael was arrested in June 2004 and accused of hitting his wife. McMichael had been charged with aggravated battery on a pregnant woman, a second-degree felony that is punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

The contract he got from St. Louis was far less than Daniel Graham got, so it obviously is a concern. Not getting Griffith was the only non-signing that really disappoimted me.

[GBRulz]

he hasn't been the same since he got injured in 2004...just a little bit fragile...never knowing what his injury status will be week to week.

not taking anything away from him at all; just saying, he hasn't been dependable the last 3 years.

He got injured in 2005 actually. I think he came back pretty damn good for what could easily have been a career ending injury. Especially running behind a young OL.

I know we all have certain things we feel strong about. Losing Green was the sore subject with me I guess you could say! 8)