Michael Turner

[LEWCWA]

I do apologize, since your obviously not a DUMBASS!

[Tony Oday]

I think he is a good running back, but not for a first and a third. He is certainly the benefactor of a good offensive line and a tired defense trying to stop him after focusing on LT. He's still good, though.

I'd give up a third for him.

He isnt worth a 1st and a thrid thats why do a trade sign where we lock him in to a nice contract, agree upon it and then trade for him with a first rounder.

Sure he hasnt carried the load for a team but he has shown that he has the speed, the vision and toughness to be a good back, in the NFL. He actually has experience and tons up upside unlike ANY RB in teh draft he has actually played in th NFL and shown he can run against pro Defenses.

[Bretsky]

I do apologize, since your obviously not a DUMBASS!

Stop giving people my label

I might give up a 2nd for Turner, but nothing more.
Well, unless they'd take Ferguson for a diet pepsi.........wait, I'd buy them the diet pepsi for taking the Fraud

[MadtownPacker]

I do apologize, since your obviously not a DUMBASS!

Well maybe not on this subject but Im sure there is hardcore proof somewhere...

HELL NO to Turner for anything more then a 3rd. He is fast and has some moves but he aint no LT.

[KYPack]

Turner is a a talented player, but a change of pace guy and return man.

I can't believe anyone would give a first round pick for the guy.

We need an everydown back.

A Michael Turner is a luxury this team can't afford.

With our thin rosters, our spec team blocking might never give Turner any more openings for him to run thru.

No sense shopping for dessert, we need some meat and potatoes, a stud, every down RB.

[wist43]

I think Turner can be an every down back... he's certainly better than Morency.

Can't give up a 1 and 3 for him though.

[Patler]

I think Turner can be an every down back... he's certainly better than Morency.

Can't give up a 1 and 3 for him though.

How can you possibly have seen Turner enough to conclude that he is "certainly better than Morency"? Have you seen enough of his 150 carries over the last 3 years for San Diego to reach such a conclusion. Heck, having seen probably most if not all of Morency's carries this year I still can't say with any certainty what HE is capable of, let alone Turner.

What you have is a guess or a feeling about the relative abilities of each, but it is just that, and "certainly not a certainty".

[falco]

I think Turner can be an every down back... he's certainly better than Morency.

Can't give up a 1 and 3 for him though.

How can you possibly have seen Turner enough to conclude that he is "certainly better than Morency"? Have you seen enough of his 150 carries over the last 3 years for San Diego to reach such a conclusion. Heck, having seen probably most if not all of Morency's carries this year I still can't say with any certainty what HE is capable of, let alone Turner.

What you have is a guess or a feeling about the relative abilities of each, but it is just that, and "certainly not a certainty".

Patler you must be a dumbass just like me. 150 carriers isn't enough to know that he is a stud running back???

[Patler]

I think Turner can be an every down back... he's certainly better than Morency.

Can't give up a 1 and 3 for him though.

How can you possibly have seen Turner enough to conclude that he is "certainly better than Morency"? Have you seen enough of his 150 carries over the last 3 years for San Diego to reach such a conclusion. Heck, having seen probably most if not all of Morency's carries this year I still can't say with any certainty what HE is capable of, let alone Turner.

What you have is a guess or a feeling about the relative abilities of each, but it is just that, and "certainly not a certainty".

Patler you must be a dumbass just like me. 150 carriers isn't enough to know that he is a stud running back???

Ya, I guess I am!

If the carries were all in one season, maybe. But they are scattered over 3 seasons.
If we got to see each and every carry of both backs, maybe. But most of us have seen Turner only in a handful of carries, and many of us may have never seen him carry at all. To be honest, I don't know if I have ever seen him carry or not. I don't remember, so if I did he certainly made no lasting impression.

There is a funny thing about backup running backs, especially ones subbing for a great back. They often catch the defense relaxing a bit, because the stud is out. When they become the feature back they are never quite as good as they were as the backup.

[Bretsky]

I think Turner can be an every down back... he's certainly better than Morency.

Can't give up a 1 and 3 for him though.

How can you possibly have seen Turner enough to conclude that he is "certainly better than Morency"? Have you seen enough of his 150 carries over the last 3 years for San Diego to reach such a conclusion. Heck, having seen probably most if not all of Morency's carries this year I still can't say with any certainty what HE is capable of, let alone Turner.

What you have is a guess or a feeling about the relative abilities of each, but it is just that, and "certainly not a certainty".

Patler you must be a dumbass just like me. 150 carriers isn't enough to know that he is a stud running back???

Ya, I guess I am!

If the carries were all in one season, maybe. But they are scattered over 3 seasons.
If we got to see each and every carry of both backs, maybe. But most of us have seen Turner only in a handful of carries, and many of us may have never seen him carry at all. To be honest, I don't know if I have ever seen him carry or not. I don't remember, so if I did he certainly made no lasting impression.

There is a funny thing about backup running backs, especially ones subbing for a great back. They often catch the defense relaxing a bit, because the stud is out. When they become the feature back they are never quite as good as they were as the backup.

I enjoy watching the Chargers and have seen him quite a bit in junk duty and fill in duty.

My impression of Morency is he's a 3rd down back and or complimentary back. My impression of Turner is he's a better player than Vernon Morency.

No idea if he can carry the load, but I'd have a strong preference of him over Vernon Morency.

[Patler]

My impression of Morency is he's a 3rd down back and or complimentary back.

I don't think of Morrency as a so-called 3rd down back at all. He does not catch the ball easily, and more importantly doesn't pass protect well. Those are the primary skills I think are needed in a "3rd down back." Along with that he needs to be very solid in knowing his assignments as the play unfolds. I think Herron fits the requirements for a "3rd down back" better than Morency does. I think of Morrency more as the alternate to the featured back. The so-called change of pace back, providing the primary back is more of a power-running, bigger type back.

[falco]

I made the point earlier that Turner's stats are very similar to Najeh Davenport's over his first three years.

Davenport saw limited action, but point up very decent numbers. Like Turner, he backed up a star runner, and like Turner he came off the bench in a game to put up massive yardage.

But there was no market for Davenport (even though Peter King single handedly tried to make one every week). He ended up being cut and signed a poor contract with Pittsburgh.

Until these guys show what they can do week in and week out they are a big question mark.

[Bretsky]

Turner has blazing speed and makes people miss; stats aside IMO those two guys are not similar in ability IMO.

Agree that Turner is a question mark, but he's one I'd like to have on GB for the right price.

[Bretsky]

My impression of Morency is he's a 3rd down back and or complimentary back.

I don't think of Morrency as a so-called 3rd down back at all. He does not catch the ball easily, and more importantly doesn't pass protect well. Those are the primary skills I think are needed in a "3rd down back." Along with that he needs to be very solid in knowing his assignments as the play unfolds. I think Herron fits the requirements for a "3rd down back" better than Morency does. I think of Morrency more as the alternate to the featured back. The so-called change of pace back, providing the primary back is more of a power-running, bigger type back.

Ya, you are right. I'm just not yet convinced he's a solid compliment back yet.
I was hoping for a Ahman Green...Travis Henry.....Chris Brown and Lynch combo to be honest.

[Tony Oday]

I am saying Trade our current 1st for the Pats two firsts send one pick to the Chargers for Turner.

I have seen most of his games, via NFL Ticket. He is not a Davenport in that he doesnt have the up and down running style that gets you hurt playing in the NFL. he has moves of both a RB and return man and can out run a Favre laser.

He will be a stud in this league