Grow from Within

[Patler]

Re: Dendy

Hey guys, try RECORDING a game once in a while and then go back and study it. Mentioning Dendy as a player to possibly count on is ludicrous. How many times does a guy need to get burned before the light bulbs go on? Sure he does'nt get holding calls like Carroll did but then again Dendy was never close enough!

I'm not suggesting you CAN count on him, but he is within the group that MUST improve for the team to be better. Either that, or he must be replaced, which is actually what I expect will happen this year. As the 3rd CB, he is within the middle third of the roster that in my opinion is the key. If he does not improve, or isn't replaced, team improvement is held back. If he does improve, the team will be better because he plays enough as the 3rd CB for it to make a difference.

[wist43]

Wow FF arguing with the great Patler careful you may be struck by lightning.

I guess I don't understand that comment. I haven't noticed a reluctance of people to argue with me. Heck, if they weren't disagreeing with me I wouldn't post nearly as much!

I'll argue with ya Patler... what do ya want to argue about???

Global warming... that's always a good one!!!

[wist43]

As for the topic...

Hunter and Jolly both have upside. I expect Jolly will be a regular part of the DT rotation.

At Safety, Underwood and Culver need to step up... I wouldn't be surprised if TT ignores the Safety position altogether in the draft. Both of those guys, when healthy, have shown flashes especially Underwood. Prior to getting hurt last preseason he all but had the safety spot opposite Collins locked up.

The rest??? Most of them are just a bunch guys... If one or two them steps up to be an occasional contributor from scrimmage - that's just gravy. 37-53 need to produce on ST.

[Patler]

I'll argue with ya Patler... what do ya want to argue about???

Global warming... that's always a good one!!!

Did you see the article circulating on the internet over the weekend, about a new video documentary addressing the gobal warming hoax? Apparently the points made are:

1. Scientific evidence does not support CO2 as a driving force for climate change.
2. CO2 has never driven climate change in the past.
3. Climate scientists advocate the "problem" simply to get research funding.
4. Jobs depend on there being global warming.
5. The paranoia over CO2 emissions harms third-world development, causing poverty and disease.

That should be enough to start a battle with someone,shouldn't it?

I think I will slink off to the side and duck!

[MJZiggy]

Yikes! House cleaning is suddenly looking appealing!!

[Patler]

As for the topic...

Hunter and Jolly both have upside. I expect Jolly will be a regular part of the DT rotation.

At Safety, Underwood and Culver need to step up... I wouldn't be surprised if TT ignores the Safety position altogether in the draft. Both of those guys, when healthy, have shown flashes especially Underwood. Prior to getting hurt last preseason he all but had the safety spot opposite Collins locked up.

The rest??? Most of them are just a bunch guys... If one or two them steps up to be an occasional contributor from scrimmage - that's just gravy. 37-53 need to produce on ST.

I think we pretty much agree. I look for Jolly and Underwood to contribute. I almost expect it, providing Underwood's recovery went well. I didn't see that much out of Hunter to think he will be a factor. I look for him to be replaced. Culver I'm just not sure about, and I expect him to get another year to show something.

Underwood could be a key to TT's approach to FAs and the draft regarding safeties. People forget that at the draft two years ago, Underwood was thought to be a more NFL-ready player than Collins. It turned out that he wasn't, but if he were to come on as a solid, if unspectacular, starter it would not be a surprise.

The other bottom third of the roster players are just "temps" for the most part as far as play from scrimmage.

[the_idle_threat]

I'll argue with ya Patler... what do ya want to argue about???

Global warming... that's always a good one!!!

Did you see the article circulating on the internet over the weekend, about a new video documentary addressing the gobal warming hoax? Apparently the points made are:

1. Scientific evidence does not support CO2 as a driving force for climate change.
2. CO2 has never driven climate change in the past.
3. Climate scientists advocate the "problem" simply to get research funding.
4. Jobs depend on there being global warming.
5. The paranoia over CO2 emissions harms third-world development, causing poverty and disease.

That should be enough to start a battle with someone,shouldn't it?

I think I will slink off to the side and duck!

Oh crap, here we go!

[pittstang5]

Underwood could be a key to TT's approach to FAs and the draft regarding safeties. People forget that at the draft two years ago, Underwood was thought to be a more NFL-ready player than Collins. It turned out that he wasn't, but if he were to come on as a solid, if unspectacular, starter it would not be a surprise.

Good Point Patler and I agree 100%. I too remember the hype when Underwood was drafted and was confused when he didn't play all that well in pre-season and the limited amount of times he played during his first season. I even remember a game he came in for Collins (Collins had to sit out for a play or two) and Underwood got roasted - gave up a touchdown if I'm not mistaken. THEN, this past training camp and pre-season he was playing for the injured Manuel and was doing great! I hope his rehap is going good because I'm expecting very positive things from him this year.

[wist43]

I'll argue with ya Patler... what do ya want to argue about???

Global warming... that's always a good one!!!

Did you see the article circulating on the internet over the weekend, about a new video documentary addressing the gobal warming hoax? Apparently the points made are:

1. Scientific evidence does not support CO2 as a driving force for climate change.
2. CO2 has never driven climate change in the past.
3. Climate scientists advocate the "problem" simply to get research funding.
4. Jobs depend on there being global warming.
5. The paranoia over CO2 emissions harms third-world development, causing poverty and disease.

That should be enough to start a battle with someone,shouldn't it?

I think I will slink off to the side and duck!

Oh crap, here we go!

Nothing to "here we go" about... Patler is exactly right in the points he makes. Global warming is a dead issue. The only people who believe in man caused GW, are the ignorant masses.

Being a chemist, I know plenty of people in the scientific field... I have yet to meet one in person that believes in "man caused" global warming. We actually get a good laugh about it - to bad the joke is on us.

Al Gore is an ignorant media whore, and the "scientists" (I use the term loosely) who prattle on endlessly about GW, do so strictly for financial reasons... lots of grant money out there.

Scientists in the know, know beyond all doubt that there is no such thing as "man caused" global warming...

The middle ages were considerably warmer than today... too bad Al and his green buddies weren't around to make those selfish bastards ride bikes instead of blazing thru the countryside in their SUV's.

End of discussion... just setting the record straight - back to football!!!!

[Chester Marcol]

I'll argue with ya Patler... what do ya want to argue about???

Global warming... that's always a good one!!!

Did you see the article circulating on the internet over the weekend, about a new video documentary addressing the gobal warming hoax? Apparently the points made are:

1. Scientific evidence does not support CO2 as a driving force for climate change.
2. CO2 has never driven climate change in the past.
3. Climate scientists advocate the "problem" simply to get research funding.
4. Jobs depend on there being global warming.
5. The paranoia over CO2 emissions harms third-world development, causing poverty and disease.

That should be enough to start a battle with someone,shouldn't it?

I think I will slink off to the side and duck!

Oh crap, here we go!

Nothing to "here we go" about... Patler is exactly right in the points he makes. Global warming is a dead issue. The only people who believe in man caused GW, are the ignorant masses.

Being a chemist, I know plenty of people in the scientific field... I have yet to meet one in person that believes in "man caused" global warming. We actually get a good laugh about it - to bad the joke is on us.

Al Gore is an ignorant media whore, and the "scientists" (I use the term loosely) who prattle on endlessly about GW, do so strictly for financial reasons... lots of grant money out there.

Scientists in the know, know beyond all doubt that there is no such thing as "man caused" global warming...

The middle ages were considerably warmer than today... too bad Al and his green buddies weren't around to make those selfish bastards ride bikes instead of blazing thru the countryside in their SUV's.

End of discussion... just setting the record straight - back to football!!!!

The proof that there is money to be made from global warming has to go no further than Bush finally coming around and jumping on board. His financial advisors must have clued him in.

[woodbuck27]

I'll argue with ya Patler... what do ya want to argue about???

Global warming... that's always a good one!!!

Did you see the article circulating on the internet over the weekend, about a new video documentary addressing the gobal warming hoax? Apparently the points made are:

1. Scientific evidence does not support CO2 as a driving force for climate change.
2. CO2 has never driven climate change in the past.
3. Climate scientists advocate the "problem" simply to get research funding.
4. Jobs depend on there being global warming.
5. The paranoia over CO2 emissions harms third-world development, causing poverty and disease.

That should be enough to start a battle with someone,shouldn't it?

I think I will slink off to the side and duck!

Oh crap, here we go!

Nothing to "here we go" about... Patler is exactly right in the points he makes. Global warming is a dead issue. The only people who believe in man caused GW, are the ignorant masses.

Being a chemist, I know plenty of people in the scientific field... I have yet to meet one in person that believes in "man caused" global warming. We actually get a good laugh about it - to bad the joke is on us.

Al Gore is an ignorant media whore, and the "scientists" (I use the term loosely) who prattle on endlessly about GW, do so strictly for financial reasons... lots of grant money out there.

Scientists in the know, know beyond all doubt that there is no such thing as "man caused" global warming...

The middle ages were considerably warmer than today... too bad Al and his green buddies weren't around to make those selfish bastards ride bikes instead of blazing thru the countryside in their SUV's.

End of discussion... just setting the record straight - back to football!!!!

Some polar bears might argue with you. If they could.

I wouldn't with all the DAM snow here in Montreal.

[MJZiggy]

It was a nice try at getting the last word in, Wist...Besides Barnett, what young players have contracts coming due? I want to see Barnett resigned and believe it'll get done. TT does seem to learn from his mistakes and though I don't know enough details about Green's situation to know how he ended up on the FA market (yes I've heard your ideas on the topic), I have a feeling he may not let it happen twice in a row.

[Patler]

Besides Barnett, what young players have contracts coming due?

Corry Williams
Rayner
Morency
Dendy
Miree

A bunch of others like
Hunter
Bourke
Kevin Barry
Bodiford
Martin
Alcorn
etc. who may not even be here during 2007.

[MJZiggy]

Well, that creates an interesting situation...Green leaves via free agency this year and Morency is a free agent next offseason. I wonder what kind of contract numbers they'll be throwing at him...?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Corry Williams
Rayner
Morency
Dendy
Miree

A bunch of others like
Hunter
Bourke
Kevin Barry
Bodiford
Martin
Alcorn
etc. who may not even be here during 2007.

Not many that are all that important. It's a nice situation. I still don't know why we can't frontload some of these contracts and get a couple of guys signed. It's not going to affect the cap enough that we won't be able to sign Barnett and Williams. I'm not sure even Thompson believes Morency is the long-term solution.