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  • #31
    List

    Originally posted by gureski
    Not trying to book it to you but do you have a list that you saw pubished somewhere that had Hood as the #1 CB (or nickel back) on the market this year? Obviously Clements would've led that list but maybe looking at the overall list it would be easy to pick out Nickel back type players?

    I hadn't seen a list that had Hood as the #1 nickel CB. If you have a link to a list of what other CB's were on the market as of March 1, I'd love to see it.

    What I heard fans calling for was a young DB with potential that could handle nickel back duties and possibly develop into a starter down the road. Isn't that what this kid is?

    I'm sure the team isn't done now at CB but it's a piece that fits what people were asking for.

    This is from ESPN's Scouts Inc. They have them rated in order and you can see Walker is way down on their list.




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    Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. 2006 Team 2007 Team Grade Comment
    Nate Clements CB UFA 6-0 209 6 Bills 49ers 82 Expert's Take
    Asante Samuel CB UFA 5-10 185 4 Patriots 79 Expert's Take
    Nick Harper CB UFA 5-10 182 6 Colts 68 Expert's Take
    Jason David CB RFA 5-8 180 3 Colts 64 Expert's Take
    Fred Smoot CB Released 5-11 178 6 Vikings Redskins 63 Expert's Take
    Travis Fisher CB UFA 5-10 189 5 Rams 62 Expert's Take
    Roderick Hood CB UFA 5-11 196 4 Eagles Cardinals 62 Expert's Take
    David Macklin CB UFA 5-10 206 7 Cardinals 60 Expert's Take
    B.J. Sams CB RFA 5-10 185 3 Ravens 60 Expert's Take
    Daylon McCutcheon CB Released 5-10 190 8 Browns 59 Expert's Take
    Kiwaukee Thomas CB UFA 5-11 192 7 Bills 59 Expert's Take
    Ralph Brown CB UFA 5-10 185 7 Browns 58 Expert's Take
    Curtis Deloatch CB Released 6-2 210 3 Saints 58 Expert's Take
    Jamar Fletcher CB UFA 5-10 186 6 Lions 58 Expert's Take
    Kenny Wright CB UFA 6-1 207 8 Redskins Browns 58 Expert's Take
    Torrie Cox CB UFA 5-9 181 4 Buccaneers Buccaneers 57 Expert's Take
    Tory James CB UFA 6-2 192 11 Bengals 55 Expert's Take
    Lenny Walls CB UFA 6-4 192 5 Chiefs 55 Expert's Take
    Rashad Bauman CB UFA 5-8 184 5 Bengals 54 Expert's Take
    Phillip Buchanon CB UFA 5-11 185 5 Buccaneers Buccaneers 53 Expert's Take
    Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. 2006 Team 2007 Team Grade Comment
    Randall Gay CB UFA 5-11 190 3 Patriots 53 Expert's Take
    Dexter McCleon CB UFA 5-10 195 9 Texans 53 Expert's Take
    Ahmad Carroll CB RFA 5-10 190 3 Jaguars 52 Expert's Take
    William James CB UFA 6-0 200 6 Eagles Eagles 52 Expert's Take
    Ade Jimoh CB UFA 6-1 190 4 Redskins Redskins 52 Expert's Take
    Tyrone Poole CB Released 5-8 190 12 Raiders 52 Expert's Take
    Lewis Sanders CB UFA 6-1 210 7 Texans Falcons 52 Expert's Take
    Robert Tate CB UFA 5-11 194 8 Cardinals 52 Expert's Take
    Frank Walker CB UFA 5-10 197 4 NY Giants 52 Expert's Take
    Blue Adams CB RFA 5-10 184 3 Buccaneers 51 Expert's Take
    Duane Starks CB UFA 5-10 174 9 Raiders 51 Expert's Take
    Chris Cash CB UFA 5-10 185 5 Falcons 50 Expert's Take
    Sammy Davis CB UFA 6-1 195 4 49ers 50 Expert's Take
    DeJuan Groce CB UFA 5-10 191 4 Saints Saints 50 Expert's Take
    Donald Strickland CB UFA 5-10 187 4 49ers 49ers 50 Expert's Take
    Roc Alexander CB Released 5-10 190 3 Texans Texans 49 Expert's Take
    Chidi Iwuoma CB UFA 5-9 184 6 Steelers 49 Expert's Take
    Eddie Jackson CB Released 6-0 200 3 Dolphins 49 Expert's Take
    Michael Lehan CB UFA 6-0 190 4 Dolphins 49 Expert's Take
    Keith Smith CB RFA 5-11 192 3 Lions 49 Expert's Take
    Player Pos. FA Type Ht. Wt. Exp. 2006 Team 2007 Team Grade Comment
    Jimmy Williams CB UFA 5-11 190 6 Seahawks 49 Expert's Take
    Benny Sapp CB RFA 5-9 190 3 Chiefs 48 Expert's Take
    Nathan Jones CB RFA 5-10 192 3 Cowboys 47 Expert's Take
    Jacques Reeves CB RFA 5-11 192 3 Cowboys 47 Expert's Take
    Von Hutchins CB RFA 5-9 181 3 Texans 46 Expert's Take
    Greg Brooks CB RFA 5-11 182 3 Bengals 45 Expert's Take
    Chris McKenzie CB Released 5-8 182 2 Texans 44 Expert's Take
    Ray Mickens CB UFA 5-8 180 11 Patriots 42 Expert's Take
    Pete Hunter CB UFA 6-2 212 5 Seahawks 41 Expert's Take


    Key

    UFA: Unrestricted Free Agent; a player who has completed four or more accrued seasons and whose contract has expired.

    RFA: Restricted Free Agent; a player who has completed three accrued seasons and whose contract has expired.

    Released: A player released by his team with years remaining on his contract.

    Grade: After watching film and evaluating players, our scouts have assigned each a numeric grade from 40-100.


    Grading scale
    90-100: Elite Player
    Player demonstrates rare abilities and can create mismatches that have an obvious impact on the game. ... Premier NFL player who has all the skills to consistently play at a championship level. ... Rates as one of the top players at his position in the league.
    80-89: Outstanding Player
    Player has abilities to create mismatches versus most opponents in the NFL. ... A feature player who has an impact on the outcome of the game. ... Cannot be shut down by a single player and plays on a consistent level week in and week out.

    70-79: Good Starter
    Solid starter who is close to being an outstanding player. ... Has few weaknesses and usually will win his individual matchup but does not dominate in every game, especially when matched up against the top players in the league.

    60-69: Average Starter
    A valuable roster player but not a dominant player against the better players he faces on a weekly basis. ... Gives great effort and teams are glad to have him, but he may or may not go to the next level.

    50-59: Good Backup
    This is a player who is really on the bubble and only starts because of a deficiency at the position. ... He lacks complete overall skills, and although he will battle, he will hinder his team's ability to play at a championship level if he is forced to be in the starting lineup consistently over a 16-game season. Teams don't mind having him on the roster but are always looking to upgrade.

    40-49: Below Average Backup/Core Special Teamers
    Strictly a backup player who is not capable of starting. If forced to, he is only a short-term fix. ... He might make the roster because of special-teams contributions or experience. ... He is the type of player teams consistently look to replace with an upgrade. ... He always will be a borderline roster player.

    30: Developmental Player
    Players with this grade have very little film to evaluate. Such players might flash potential in the preseason but don't have any regular-season performances to judge. they usually have very little experience but have to be tracked due to developmental potential.

    20: Rookie (Post Draft)
    No professional tape to evaluate. These players will have an evaluation based on their college tape, but we will not put a new grade on them until after their rookie seasons. They will carry the 20 grade throughout their first NFL season.

    10: Evaluation in Process
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    • #32
      Hood

      Originally posted by gureski
      Not trying to book it to you but do you have a list that you saw pubished somewhere that had Hood as the #1 CB (or nickel back) on the market this year? Obviously Clements would've led that list but maybe looking at the overall list it would be easy to pick out Nickel back type players?

      I hadn't seen a list that had Hood as the #1 nickel CB. If you have a link to a list of what other CB's were on the market as of March 1, I'd love to see it.

      What I heard fans calling for was a young DB with potential that could handle nickel back duties and possibly develop into a starter down the road. Isn't that what this kid is?

      I'm sure the team isn't done now at CB but it's a piece that fits what people were asking for.
      This is their specific take on Hood. Also what I'm trying to say and I don't see how it can be disputed is since there is little help available on offense, Thompson should have taken that 21 million and got this guy signed along with Hamlin. I would argue with anyone that these 2 signings would have made our defense comparable to Chicago's. Also with a great defense, you always have a chance. Hamlin and Hood are not projects or stop gap players. Both are at the perfect age and would be around for quite a while. Now on to Hood:

      Hood is a four-year veteran that was drafted by the Eagles and has played his whole career in Philadelphia. He was the nickel corner during the 2006 season, although he did start two games due to injuries. Hood has good cover skills with size, speed and quickness going for him. He did not have any interceptions this past season, but it wasn't for lack of ability to stick with receivers. He can extend the cushion with quick feet in his pedal and opens his hips easily and quickly to turn and run deep with receivers. He is fluid in transition and does not have much in the way of wasted movements. Hood can plant and drive on the ball quickly when in man coverage and closes on the ball with a decent burst. While he is not timid in run support he does not pack a big wallop when tackling ball carriers. He shows good wrap up ability and gets the opponent down, he just does not drive them back. Hood has returned kickoffs in the past and has some special teams value. While he appears to fit the nickel corner position very well, he is also the kind of athlete who can start for a team in case of injury and not hurt them.

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      • #33
        You do realize those Scouts, Inc. player bios are from before the 2006 season, right? They don't update them until later in the offseason. They also can be incredibly wrong. They have Aaron Kampman as the 27th best DE--behind the likes of KGB, Raheem Brock, and Courtney Brown.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #34
          Only a 1 year deal. Does anyone know the terms of the deal?

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          • #35
            a miracle, a miracle

            TT is the mesiah

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Bub
              Only a 1 year deal. Does anyone know the terms of the deal?
              1 year $50,000 . The signing bonus is a $50 Packer Pro Shop gift card

              ok ok ok, I should be happy we finally signed someone, right? Sarcasm gets the best of me, can't help myself!!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GBRulz
                Originally posted by Bub
                Only a 1 year deal. Does anyone know the terms of the deal?
                1 year $50,000 . The signing bonus is a $50 Packer Pro Shop gift card

                ok ok ok, I should be happy we finally signed someone, right? Sarcasm gets the best of me, can't help myself!!
                Sorry Packer fans.

                I'm struggling to be impressed.
                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                • #38
                  I like the signing. It fills a need we had going into the draft. Now, we aren't quite as desperate to draft a corner high. Blackmon and Walker might be the answer to our CB depth. Walker is a good athlete, he's young (25), and he has extensive experience. He's no world beater (but we wouldn't have been guaranteed to get one in the draft either), but we weren't going to get a solid starting corner to come in and play nickel. Hood would have been a nice option, but it looks as though he went to Arizona with the realistic chance of starting, so Green Bay wouldn't have been that attractive to him.

                  This is just one of about 3 needs we need to fill before the draft to avoid drafting for need.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #39
                    Holy shit you guys are relentless....

                    Kinda like bringing the new "love interest" to meet the family

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                    • #40
                      FA

                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      You do realize those Scouts, Inc. player bios are from before the 2006 season, right? They don't update them until later in the offseason. They also can be incredibly wrong. They have Aaron Kampman as the 27th best DE--behind the likes of KGB, Raheem Brock, and Courtney Brown.

                      Nope- this list is from the 2007 FA list that requires ESPN Insider membership. They were done AFTER the 2006 season. I believe you are talking about the normal ESPN bios pages which are indeed outdated. C'mon give me some credit! These ratings are from the Scout's Inc insider page and are current. You can read the one I posted on Hood and see it does include the 2006 season.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                        I like the signing. It fills a need we had going into the draft. Now, we aren't quite as desperate to draft a corner high. Blackmon and Walker might be the answer to our CB depth. Walker is a good athlete, he's young (25), and he has extensive experience. He's no world beater (but we wouldn't have been guaranteed to get one in the draft either), but we weren't going to get a solid starting corner to come in and play nickel. Hood would have been a nice option, but it looks as though he went to Arizona with the realistic chance of starting, so Green Bay wouldn't have been that attractive to him.

                        This is just one of about 3 needs we need to fill before the draft to avoid drafting for need.
                        Noted.
                        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                        • #42
                          I guy like me prefers Bush.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Packnut
                            Nope- this list is from the 2007 FA list that requires ESPN Insider membership. They were done AFTER the 2006 season. I believe you are talking about the normal ESPN bios pages which are indeed outdated.
                            I have the same membership. Didn't realize they had two different scouting reports on the same site. The ESPN ones are always outdated until later in the offseason.

                            I get frustrated with Thompson's approach at times, but you take it to another level. You whine about Thompson not signing Roderick Hood and Kelly Washington, but then badmouth him for signing Frank Walker.

                            Hood got a 62 on these reports, Washington got a 54, and Walker got an 52 (got a 59 last year). None were rated more than average. In retrospect, Hood probably wasn't a candidate here because he wanted a chance to start. I'm assuming he got a much bigger deal than Walker. Let's see what Walker gets. Personally, I think Hood is better, but if it's Hood and much more money vs. Walker, I'd take Walker. I'd like to save some of our money for extending Barnett or getting Moss--not for a nickelback. Did you really want to see us give Kelly Washington a deal for 5y/$22M--knowing that he might be our 4th WR if we get Moss? Our third WR at best.

                            The New England Patriots have signed another free-agent wide receiver, this time former Cincinnati Bengal Kelley Washington. The Patriots gave Washington a five-year deal worth up to $22 million, including a $300,000 signing bonus.
                            I think Thompson can be criticized for some of his FA work, but I think it's silly to take it to the level you do. He did have a damn good draft last year, and in the end he hit on a couple of FAs last year too--which is better than a lot of teams.
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Originally posted by Packnut
                              Nope- this list is from the 2007 FA list that requires ESPN Insider membership. They were done AFTER the 2006 season. I believe you are talking about the normal ESPN bios pages which are indeed outdated.
                              I have the same membership. Didn't realize they had two different scouting reports on the same site. The ESPN ones are always outdated until later in the offseason.

                              I get frustrated with Thompson's approach at times, but you take it to another level. You whine about Thompson not signing Roderick Hood and Kelly Washington, but then badmouth him for signing Frank Walker.

                              Hood got a 62 on these reports, Washington got a 54, and Walker got an 52 (got a 59 last year). None were rated more than average. In retrospect, Hood probably wasn't a candidate here because he wanted a chance to start. I'm assuming he got a much bigger deal than Walker. Let's see what Walker gets. Personally, I think Hood is better, but if it's Hood and much more money vs. Walker, I'd take Walker. I'd like to save some of our money for extending Barnett or getting Moss--not for a nickelback. Did you really want to see us give Kelly Washington a deal for 5y/$22M--knowing that he might be our 4th WR if we get Moss? Our third WR at best.

                              The New England Patriots have signed another free-agent wide receiver, this time former Cincinnati Bengal Kelley Washington. The Patriots gave Washington a five-year deal worth up to $22 million, including a $300,000 signing bonus.
                              I think Thompson can be criticized for some of his FA work, but I think it's silly to take it to the level you do. He did have a damn good draft last year, and in the end he hit on a couple of FAs last year too--which is better than a lot of teams.
                              Overall it's difficult to hammer on Ted Thompson for what he gave to us in 2006.
                              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                                Link?
                                Did anybody post a link? I haven't been able to find ANY NEWS on this "signing".

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