Raiders have interest in KGB or Williams

[ND72]

just me, but I'd rather send a 3rd round pick for Julius Jones instead of Randy Moss. Of course, I like guys in their prime, and who have never been a problem to their teams.

holy shit... Julius Jones is a piece of crap... To even compare him to Moss is insane... I unfortunately watched a lot of Dallas games because my friend likes them but I can tell you one thing... Having direct TV and watching most of their games, he plays like a lost puppy and he never hits holes.... He is not the answer at RB... NO WAY...

Morency > Julius

You're right...over 2.500 yards in his first 3 seasons in the NFL is just horrible. Here's the problem, Julius Jones is a pure zoen runner...if you ever saw him at ND running the exact same zone concept GB runs, he was amazing. The 3 years in Dallas, he was in a power run offense that Tuna ran...BUT, 2,500 yards in a system he isn't fit for would be pretty bad.

But, lets go after a WR who is past his prime, and isn't truly that much of a deep threat, since that is all he has ever been, since he has gotten slower the past 2-3 years. That sounds soo much better.

[ND72]

See my problem is, I look to the future, and the success of this team beyond the next couple years. Randy Moss MIGHT give you 2-3 years, or 2-3 plays. julius Jones is 26 years old...he gives you a solid 5 years probably for sure. The draft, we are gonna be damn lucky if Marshawn Lynch is there, which would keep us still at 1 RB, Morency. BUT, there is a good chance a Mechem, Jarrett, Rice, Ginn, or who ever you want at WR will be sitting where ever we are sitting that we can take that will be able to play. I'd rather trade for Jones, and Draft Mechem, than trade for Moss, and hope we get another RB.

[Bretsky]

See my problem is, I look to the future, and the success of this team beyond the next couple years. Randy Moss MIGHT give you 2-3 years, or 2-3 plays. julius Jones is 26 years old...he gives you a solid 5 years probably for sure. The draft, we are gonna be damn lucky if Marshawn Lynch is there, which would keep us still at 1 RB, Morency. BUT, there is a good chance a Mechem, Jarrett, Rice, Ginn, or who ever you want at WR will be sitting where ever we are sitting that we can take that will be able to play. I'd rather trade for Jones, and Draft Mechem, than trade for Moss, and hope we get another RB.

I've missed the Jones news; is Dallas only asking for a 3rd ? I'd pull that trigger AND find a way to make the Moss deal work.

Then go for beat available and if it's a RB or WR they are a bonus.

[SkinBasket]

I would trade KGB for a Chicken Salad at this point. You want to talk about overpaid players past their prime? He's probably a better example than Moss. At least Moss has laziness and a lack of motivation in his defense. KGB tries hard and still sucks.

I would be more than happy with a 3rd and KGB to pair Driver and Jennings with Moss for Favre's last stand. What's the worst that can happen? We'll have to rebuild from scratch in two years? Guess what? That's already gonna happen. I say go down with your guns blazing, not trying your hardest not to break a hip.

[packers11]

I would trade KGB for a Chicken Salad at this point. You want to talk about overpaid players past their prime? He's probably a better example than Moss. At least Moss has laziness and a lack of motivation in his defense. KGB tries hard and still sucks.

I would be more than happy with a 3rd and KGB to pair Driver and Jennings with Moss for Favre's last stand. What's the worst that can happen? We'll have to rebuild from scratch in two years? Guess what? That's already gonna happen. I say go down with your guns blazing, not trying your hardest not to break a hip.

mmmm yummy... chicken salad... haha but no back on your post... totally agree, in 1-2 or even 3 years when Favre retires... The packers are going to have to go back to the drawing board and have competition at the QB level... We could be in for a couple of years without a solid qb...(just look at the bears,lions,vikings)... They will tell you...

[ND72]

it's gonna be hard to complete any passes when nobody will respect any running game.....ask Mike Martz how that's gone.

[packers11]

it's gonna be hard to complete any passes when nobody will respect any running game.....ask Mike Martz how that's gone.

agree but the ZBS is known for picking up 2/3rd round backs and plugging them in... Ask Denver...

[ND72]

OH i completely agree....I've been the one taking shots for being a fan of Morency for MONTHS, and now, a week after it was panic cause all we have is Morency........we're all ok?? the ups and downs in this board really confuse me. Last week we're going to struggle to win cause we don't have a "decent running back"....this week, oh we'll be fine.

[packers11]

OH i completely agree....I've been the one taking shots for being a fan of Morency for MONTHS, and now, a week after it was panic cause all we have is Morency........we're all ok?? the ups and downs in this board really confuse me. Last week we're going to struggle to win cause we don't have a "decent running back"....this week, oh we'll be fine.

Nope I agree with you, I think he just needs some help... A 1-2 punch... AND NO ONE else on the roster will be able to help Morency... Thats why I figured keeping green would be good because the packers wouldn't have to address that position at all... But now they definitely need to bring in someone from the draft or FA...

[FritzDontBlitz]

I would trade KGB for a Chicken Salad at this point. You want to talk about overpaid players past their prime? He's probably a better example than Moss. At least Moss has laziness and a lack of motivation in his defense. KGB tries hard and still sucks.

I would be more than happy with a 3rd and KGB to pair Driver and Jennings with Moss for Favre's last stand. What's the worst that can happen? We'll have to rebuild from scratch in two years? Guess what? That's already gonna happen. I say go down with your guns blazing, not trying your hardest not to break a hip.

kgb never should have been pencilled in as an every down player, he gives up close to 100 lbs to every offtackle in the league and he's a speed rusher. no way should they have expected him to perform at the same level as an every down player because its too easy to lean on a speed rusher and wear him down. shermy increased his playing time to justify signing him to that huge contract.

now that cullen jenkins has taken over as de on early downs kgb will recover his burst and his sack totals will increase. in fact, with jenkins starting the last few games of 2006 kgb looked much faster off the ball than he did the 12 games or so he did start...

[wist43]

I haven't moved... no way can Morency be an every down back.

I'm in the minority on Barnett... but, you guys are definitely in the minority on Morency.

I like Morency for what he is - a 3rd down, change of pace back - but, as Tom Silverstein said in an article, "if the Packers go into the season with what they have at RB, they'll be the laughing stock of the NFL".

Those are pretty harsh words from a guy who is typically a shill for the Packers.

[Bretsky]

I haven't moved... no way can Morency be an every down back.

I'm in the minority on Barnett... but, you guys are definitely in the minority on Morency.

I like Morency for what he is - a 3rd down, change of pace back - but, as Tom Silverstein said in an article, "if the Packers go into the season with what they have at RB, they'll be the laughing stock of the NFL".

Those are pretty harsh words from a guy who is typically a shill for the Packers.

Wist, I agree completely with you on Morency

Your negative blinders are way too overpowering on Barnett for you to ever give a fair view

[retailguy]

I haven't moved... no way can Morency be an every down back.

I'm in the minority on Barnett... but, you guys are definitely in the minority on Morency.

I like Morency for what he is - a 3rd down, change of pace back - but, as Tom Silverstein said in an article, "if the Packers go into the season with what they have at RB, they'll be the laughing stock of the NFL".

Those are pretty harsh words from a guy who is typically a shill for the Packers.

Morency isn't a good 3rd down back, he hasn't even proven he can catch. Herron is much better at that, and that doesn't say very much.

Barnett is solid, not spectacular, but has been a great value. I support resigning him, but not close to Briggs money.

Morency can only be a #1 back behind the BEST DAMN OFFENSIVE LINE in the NFL. Otherwise - FORGET IT. (and, Yes Patler, that's my opinion.)

We don't have that line, although they are making progress.

[red]

i think morency will be ok, IF we can get lynch and use those two in a one-two punch

they'll be just ok, not bad, but nothing special. and something that will at least give us some kind of running game

then in a year we'll be fine with lynch ready to go full bore

but if we don't get lynch and we just stick with morency and herron , then we're in big trouble this year

brett mine as well quit now if thats the plan

[retailguy]

i think morency will be ok, IF we can get lynch and use those two in a one-two punch

they'll be just ok, not bad, but nothing special. and something that will at least give us some kind of running game

then in a year we'll be fine with lynch ready to go full bore

but if we don't get lynch and we just stick with morency and herron , then we're in big trouble this year

brett mine as well quit now if thats the plan

"IF" we can get? Is that the best plan we have?..... IF.....