Rodgers out of the insider plans??? Told to keep quiet...

[CaliforniaCheez]

In practical terms, What comment by Aaron Rodgers could be helpful? None.

There is no reason to say anything about some hoax trade.

[Merlin]

Don't believe that the Packers trade a 1st round QB that has not even yet had a chance to demonstrate his skills.
The rumors that include him as part of a 'package' all sound fishy.

Nothing "fishy" about Rogers. He was a first round mistake and believe it or not, TT, Sherman and McCarthy were/are not impressed with Rogers in any way. What they tell the media and what is reality is seldom ever the same.

Rogers for Moss seems to me like a very fair trade. We get rid of someone who has shown NOTHING in two seasons. He has had ample opportunity to show his skills. Playing in a regular season game is not when you "show your skills". Playing in a regular season game is a reward for "showing your skills" during all other facets. He doesn't practice well, his pre-season performances were a joke and he has shown that he can't read defenses, can't throw well and can't lead the team when called upon. For that we get a player that everyone says is on the down side of his career. Seems more then fair. We won't get anything for Rogers. There is a reason we have him, EVER OTHER SCOUT IN THE NFL DIDN'T WANT HIM IN THE FIRST ROUND. They knew he was a joke and the only reason TT took him was because he thought he could get Favre out sooner.

[Scott Campbell]

They knew he was a joke and the only reason TT took him was because he thought he could get Favre out sooner.

So now they took a crappy player on purpose just to get Brett to retire?

:P

I guess the consipiracy theories have officially reached Lee Harvey Oswald proportions.

[Packnut]

Rodgers

Rodgers was a stupid pick that was not needed at the time. Had Favre retired at the time, there were quite a few FA QB's that could have filled the void. That's why I laugh every time someone here posts how great a draft guy Teddy is.

Frank Gore picked in the early 3rd was a much better pick than Rodgers in the late 1st.

[Merlin]

They knew he was a joke and the only reason TT took him was because he thought he could get Favre out sooner.

So now they took a crappy player on purpose just to get Brett to retire?

:P

I guess the consipiracy theories have officially reached Lee Harvey Oswald proportions.

Don't misunderstand the logic behind taking an over-hyped QB in the first round. I am sure that TT THOUGHT Rogers was a steal, however as I stated, there was a reason he fell and a reason Alex Smith was taken before him. TT didn't do his homework, if he did he would have looked at WHY other teams passed.

And BTW, Oswald was a scapegoat. Never let reality interfere with your logic my friend.

[ND72]

All of you are missing the real reason A-Rod fell....no team NEEDED a QB. Did we NEED? no...but what if Brett had retired? Don't give me the bs free agent QB stuff...you need one of your own. It was well viewed at draft time if either Rodgers or Smith wasn't drafted by #10, he would fall to Green Bay...everyone reported that. from 11-23, everyone had a set QB. We needed to look to the future just in case. So don't give me all this BS...TT was covering his butt incase his Franchise QB quit on him.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Rodgers

Frank Gore picked in the early 3rd was a much better pick than Rodgers in the late 1st.

Gee, do you think so? Perhaps Barry Sanders would have been a better pick than Tony Mandarich?

[Packnut]

Rodgers

All of you are missing the real reason A-Rod fell....no team NEEDED a QB. Did we NEED? no...but what if Brett had retired? Don't give me the bs free agent QB stuff...you need one of your own. It was well viewed at draft time if either Rodgers or Smith wasn't drafted by #10, he would fall to Green Bay...everyone reported that. from 11-23, everyone had a set QB. We needed to look to the future just in case. So don't give me all this BS...TT was covering his butt incase his Franchise QB quit on him.

Rodgers fell because several GM's believed he was a product of the system he played in. There was over-whelming proof that similiar QB's in that system did not translate their success into the NFL level. Good Lord, every "expert" and their brother wrote about that. As far as needing one of your own, tell that to the Saints just to name 1 example.

As for Favre quitting, may-be drafting someone who could have been viewed to HELP him , might have been a better idea than drafting someone to replace him!

Arguing about Rodgers is point-less until there comes some tangible proof one way or another. Right now it's nothing but opinion............

[Packnut]

Re: Rodgers

Frank Gore picked in the early 3rd was a much better pick than Rodgers in the late 1st.

Gee, do you think so? Perhaps Barry Sanders would have been a better pick than Tony Mandarich?

Perhaps.

[ND72]

Re: Rodgers

Rodgers fell because several GM's believed he was a product of the system he played in. There was over-whelming proof that similiar QB's in that system did not translate their success into the NFL level. Good Lord, every "expert" and their brother wrote about that. As far as needing one of your own, tell that to the Saints just to name 1 example.

I remember lots of articles also written about Smith being a product of hte system as well....AND, lots of people have said the same thing about Leak..."productive QB with the same skills as Alex Smith, but he is a product of the "Urban" system"....So does that mean Leak is gonna be decent as well? PLUS, I still don't think Alex Smith is that good. He had about 5 "good" games last year that I can remember. But you're right, nobody can say anything about Rodgers, because we don't know yet. BUT...lots of "experts" on these forums already seem to know how good he is.

[retailguy]

Rodgers for Moss is probably fair, but why do you want the headache?

It's really funny how everyone here talks about Green being on the "wrong side of his career", yet Moss is "ready to step in".

Yeah, I get the differences between RB & WR, please don't discount on that basis, but look at Moss versus Green. Also, didn't Emmitt Smith play well into his 30's? there's another guy who was always ready to play and always in shape. He lengthened his career by a few years with that mindset, didn't he?

Malcontent who takes plays off by his own admission versus a guy who was always in shape and gave his all every play.

I'm supposed to believe that Thompson wants the malcontent but didn't want the team player? I just can't see this trade. If it goes down, I'll really question if Ted has a plan, and how this puzzle piece fits in.

Everything about the acquisition of Moss would indicate "winning NOW". Everything about Thompson indicates "follow the plan EVEN IF you don't win now..."

I'm really puzzled by this.

[woodbuck27]

I'll never forget the moment that Ted Thompson chose Aaron Rodgers.

I felt it certainly was a possibility,seeing him fall. That TT might choose him, despite the fact that Craig Nall did very well as a backup (and I don't want to open up an old can of worms here. . LOL.)

I felt we had more needs than at QB ie on the OL. I didn't believe before the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers that any Brett Favre retirement issue was a top concern.

Was Ted Thompson prepared for a possible Aaron Rodgers free fall? I'm thinking that was a surprize to Ted Thompson on draft day. In any case this brings into question whether or not the Packers had adequately scouted Aaron Rodgers?

To cut to the chase. Isn't t that moot today? Should the debate be based on his value to the Packers based on his progress to date?

I feel even this doesn't require attention because he's not going anywhere.

Sticking with the rumor a better question might be:

Would Ted Thompson trade his first number one draft pick for a 30 year old WR, with signs he's on the decline, with a very high price tag and a need of considerable guranteed money in a 4-5 year contract?

I say NO !

If I was an NFL GM. I'd want at least a third round draft pick fr. Oakland to take Randy Moss and his large contract off their hands and books.I wouldn't give up anyone from my roster unless that move certainly helped me balance my books.

Now KGB comes to mind but not Aaron Rodgers.

[Packnut]

Re: Rodgers

Rodgers fell because several GM's believed he was a product of the system he played in. There was over-whelming proof that similiar QB's in that system did not translate their success into the NFL level. Good Lord, every "expert" and their brother wrote about that. As far as needing one of your own, tell that to the Saints just to name 1 example.

I remember lots of articles also written about Smith being a product of hte system as well....AND, lots of people have said the same thing about Leak..."productive QB with the same skills as Alex Smith, but he is a product of the "Urban" system"....So does that mean Leak is gonna be decent as well? PLUS, I still don't think Alex Smith is that good. He had about 5 "good" games last year that I can remember. But you're right, nobody can say anything about Rodgers, because we don't know yet. BUT...lots of "experts" on these forums already seem to know how good he is.

Yeah, but the difference in your analysis is that Tedford had a track record when it came to his system QBs in the NFL. Meyer did not have that same record so how can you compare the 2? Smith look's like he's turned the corner and I think his play this season will prove that.

As for evaluating Rodgers, we've seen him play in pre-season and you can make a minor judgement based on that. He has "happy feet" and like most
in-experienced QB's locks onto his primart target. He just does'nt seem to do any one thing well.

I thought Campbell was a better QB than Rodgers. Had a better arm and his pocket presence was a bit more pollished. I gues we'll find out about him this season.

[ND72]

Re: Rodgers

As for evaluating Rodgers, we've seen him play in pre-season and you can make a minor judgement based on that. He has "happy feet" and like most
in-experienced QB's locks onto his primart target. He just does'nt seem to do any one thing well.

So lets do all of our evaluating on preseason games. That whole 1-2 quarters a game sure shows me a lot. Smith had happy feet his entire first season. it's called experience, of which rodgers has non. and to say you can see things from preseason games and whatever, is ludacris.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm really puzzled by this.