Vikings crowing about their wisdom

[CaliforniaCheez]

This is typical of the viking fans media:

http://www.startribune.com/150/story/1058311.html

During the 2004 season, Moss sold out his primary sponsor, coach Mike Tice, in a national interview, and walked off the field prematurely against Washington, coming close to inciting a locker room brawl with center Matt Birk.

He became a problem on the field, in the locker room and in the management hierarchy (because Tice had sold his soul to Moss), and was eating up a disproportionate amount of the payroll on a defensively challenged team, so the Vikings acted logically: They traded him to the highest bidder.

That proved to be the Oakland Raiders, who offered the seventh pick in the 2005 draft and underachieving linebacker Napoleon Harris. The Vikings chose receiver Troy Williamson in a mistaken attempt to replace Moss' speed.

Since the trade, Moss has cemented his reputation as an overrated, annoying star. He has dropped about as many passes as Williamson and hasn't made many more big plays. While he shouldn't be blamed for the general dysfunction of the Raiders, he has contributed to it with his sulking and ineffective play.

One of the reasons the Vikings traded Moss was their concern over his work habits. He began suffering leg injuries, and the Vikings' brass wasn't convinced he would be diligent in maintaining his body.

By the time Cris Carter hit 30, he was employing nutritionists, chiropractors, personal trainers and masseuses to lengthen and enhance his career. Moss, 30, employed an agent who got busted for possession of crack cocaine.

Carter was the perfect mentor for Moss. In Moss' first three seasons, his teams compiled a regular-season record of 36-12. In '01, as Carter failed to reach 1,000 yards receiving for the first time in nine seasons, the Vikings went 5-11. Since Carter and Moss split, Moss' teams have gone 6-10, 9-7, 8-8, 4-12 and 2-14.

The Vikings realized that Moss was a declining player no longer worth the headaches he caused or the price he demanded. The Raiders quickly came to the same conclusion.
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[Scott Campbell]

Well there's a reason he can be had for middle round pick.

[Rastak]

Re: Vikings crowing about their wisdom

This is typical of the viking fans media:

http://www.startribune.com/150/story/1058311.html

During the 2004 season, Moss sold out his primary sponsor, coach Mike Tice, in a national interview, and walked off the field prematurely against Washington, coming close to inciting a locker room brawl with center Matt Birk.

He became a problem on the field, in the locker room and in the management hierarchy (because Tice had sold his soul to Moss), and was eating up a disproportionate amount of the payroll on a defensively challenged team, so the Vikings acted logically: They traded him to the highest bidder.

That proved to be the Oakland Raiders, who offered the seventh pick in the 2005 draft and underachieving linebacker Napoleon Harris. The Vikings chose receiver Troy Williamson in a mistaken attempt to replace Moss' speed.

Since the trade, Moss has cemented his reputation as an overrated, annoying star. He has dropped about as many passes as Williamson and hasn't made many more big plays. While he shouldn't be blamed for the general dysfunction of the Raiders, he has contributed to it with his sulking and ineffective play.

One of the reasons the Vikings traded Moss was their concern over his work habits. He began suffering leg injuries, and the Vikings' brass wasn't convinced he would be diligent in maintaining his body.

By the time Cris Carter hit 30, he was employing nutritionists, chiropractors, personal trainers and masseuses to lengthen and enhance his career. Moss, 30, employed an agent who got busted for possession of crack cocaine.

Carter was the perfect mentor for Moss. In Moss' first three seasons, his teams compiled a regular-season record of 36-12. In '01, as Carter failed to reach 1,000 yards receiving for the first time in nine seasons, the Vikings went 5-11. Since Carter and Moss split, Moss' teams have gone 6-10, 9-7, 8-8, 4-12 and 2-14.

The Vikings realized that Moss was a declining player no longer worth the headaches he caused or the price he demanded. The Raiders quickly came to the same conclusion.
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Which part of the story do you disagree with? Sounds acurate to me.
Is he an acending player? Did he not really drop all those passes last year? Did he not sulk last year? Did he not walk off the field with the game on the line? (That's where he lost me). The Raiders were the best offer they had and they really were sick of his act.


Why do you think he'll be going on his third team in 4 years?


edit: What is a "Vikings fans media"?

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Vikings crowing about their wisdom

Why do you think he'll be going on his third team in 4 years?

Because he's misunderstood, or something.

[Rastak]

Re: Vikings crowing about their wisdom

Why do you think he'll be going on his third team in 4 years?

Because he's misunderstood, or something.

Oh, he is that.....LOL....I've only partially understood him these last 7 or 8 years.....

[ND72]

this is the same type of stuff, that for the last few years, ALL of us have made fun of him for. And now, cause there might be a chance he comes here, we're all laughing it off like it never happened. "Typical Vikings Fan Media"??? that sounds like pretty solid "Randy Moss Coverage".

[Merlin]

Typical Star Tribune editorial bs. I don't believe anything in the Star Tribune because they are always printing lies.

Why would any Viking fan be happy at the prospect of the Packers attaining Moss? When they had him he was the best player in the NFL and the Cris Carter & Randy Moss tandem was the best ever in the NFL (according to them).

It doesn't surprise me that they are running away from Moss now. I am just waiting for Cris Carter to molest someone so they can rip on him to. There is no loyalty in Minnesota.

[MadtownPacker]

Re: Vikings crowing about their wisdom

Why do you think he'll be going on his third team in 4 years?

Thats some hardcore spin there. Woudnt it be his third team in 9 years (first was in 98)?

Either way, those of us that want Moss dont really give a damn about him. Only the fact he can improve the offense as long as Favre is the QB. Not much different then sharper (whose is now in decline, yikes!).

But if it pisses purple lovers off all the better!!

[CaliforniaCheez]

I never disagreed with the assessment of Moss. That is accurate.

The Star Tribune of Minneapolis is the media outlet for those suffering from interest in the vikings.

What is so vikings is
a)turning on the no talent Moss;
b)indicating that it was Chris Carter that made Randy Moss successful,
c)and that getting rid of the contract they agreed upon was done with great forsight.
d) the Packers are stupid to consider the aquisition of Moss at a high price.

I will stipulate that trading Moss was good timing by the Vikings(a year earlier would have been better) their motivation in doing so is suspect but ultimately fortuitous.

Now vikings sympathizers can feel better about the trade to Oakland and those who opposed it a little shame.

[GBRulz]

Actually, Moss is big time into nutrition from what I've read. I guess he has started his own juice chain or something as well.

I think us Packer fans are aware of the pros and cons that come along with him, but it's a chance that we need to take. Worst case scenario, he's gone after a year.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Vikings crowing about their wisdom

By the time Cris Carter hit 30, he was employing nutritionists, chiropractors, personal trainers and masseuses to lengthen and enhance his career. Moss, 30, employed an agent who got busted for possession of crack cocaine.

Carter wasn't a choir boy before he arrived in MN. He transormed himself as he grew up.

Moss is at a point where many players start to think about their NFL legacy - not to mention one last opportunity at a fat contract. He has plenty of logical reasons to change his stripes and shape up. But he's a bonehead, so I guess we'll just have to see.

[Fritz]

I'm not sure anyone is doubting the coverage of Moss in that article all that much.

I'd prefer the Packers just stay away from Moss. He's a quarterback eater, so once Favre is gone Moss is useless to the Packers. He's got a questionable work ethic. His skills are now in question.

I'd rather see a rookie at the #3 receiver spot this year, with DD and Jennings manning the top two spots, and Ferguson, Martin, and Holliday battling for the fourth spot.

[wist43]

Wisdom and Vikings are two words that should never be used in the same sentence!!!

[Merlin]

Moss isn't a QB eater.....LOL. You are thinking about TO.

IF Favre goes another two years, that's about as long as Moss will be effective for us anyway. I don't put him up there with Jerry Rice because Moss is somewhat one dimensional in that he is awesome in the long ball but average everywhere else. He has a few good seasons left in him and that's all we need him for anyway. After that, DD and Moss will be looked at getting replaced on the roster or moved to #3 & #4. Moss, primarily because he won't be as effective in our offense as teams learn to defend us and DD because of all of the punishment he has taken over the years. I hope I am wrong about DD and that his body can take it but I also look to his age and I see a serious injury down the road for him because of his age. In my mind, he is the consummate receiver and like Favre, I wish we could keep him for 15 years.

[lod01]

The fact that they took 'Brick Mits' Williamson in the top 10 shows they are clueless.