Vikings crowing about their wisdom

[Rastak]

The fact that they took 'Brick Mits' Williamson in the top 10 shows they are clueless.

I only have two words to that....


Tony Mandarich

[lod01]

Mandarich still even came back and played some for Indy. Yeah, a bust but that was then. This is now. Pack 'may' have made a bad pick.

The viking DID make a bad pick. He can't catch. He couldn't catch before he was drafted.

[mngolf19]

Wisdom and Vikings are two words that should never be used in the same sentence!!!

Ah we poke fun at that for which we do not understand.

[Rastak]

Mandarich still even came back and played some for Indy. Yeah, a bust but that was then. This is now. Pack 'may' have made a bad pick.

The viking DID make a bad pick. He can't catch. He couldn't catch before he was drafted.

Umm, are you telling me that Mandarich MAY have been a bad pick? You can't be serious, he's considered to be one of the all time busts of the NFL.
How about Jamal Reynolds? Teams do "F" it up sometimes, that's for sure.


Back to the Vikes.
Yea, no question at all it was a bad pick. SC didn't throw much but he still caught the damn ball on occasion. Very dissappointing. I'd give him one more season then I'd cut my losses.

[mngolf19]

Mandarich still even came back and played some for Indy. Yeah, a bust but that was then. This is now. Pack 'may' have made a bad pick.

The viking DID make a bad pick. He can't catch. He couldn't catch before he was drafted.

Your probably right about Williamson, but he'll get one last chance this year. If he fails, I'm right there with ya. But watch, some other team will pick him up as soon as he is dropped. (excuse the pun)

[Partial]

Wisdom and Vikings are two words that should never be used in the same sentence!!!

[HarveyWallbangers]

The fact that they took 'Brick Mits' Williamson in the top 10 shows they are clueless.

I only have two words to that....

Tony Mandarich

Actually, the Packers brass back then was clueless, so bad example. I don't think he's insinuating that all of the Vikings GMs have been clueless. They were pretty darn good in the 70s.

[lod01]

[quote="Rastak"]

Umm, are you telling me that Mandarich MAY have been a bad pick? You can't be serious, he's considered to be one of the all time busts of the NFL.
How about Jamal Reynolds? Teams do "F" it up sometimes, that's for sure.

Mandarich fit a need at that time. So did Williamson but if I recall Mandarich was 'projected' to be great based on his college play. Williamson didn't do squat in college to rate as a top 10 pick. That's the difference.

Oh yeah, same with Reynolds. He was a need I beleive and didn't pan out. But Williamson? What did he do in college that says this guy is it? Drop passes while flashing speed?

[Rastak]

The fact that they took 'Brick Mits' Williamson in the top 10 shows they are clueless.

I only have two words to that....

Tony Mandarich

Actually, the Packers brass back then was clueless, so bad example. I don't think he's insinuating that all of the Vikings GMs have been clueless. They were pretty darn good in the 70s.

Fair enough, they are starting to look pretty clueless right now I hate to say. The guy/gal making the comment certainly didn't spell that out I'm afraid.

[lod01]

Actually, the Packers brass back then was clueless, so bad example. I don't think he's insinuating that all of the Vikings GMs have been clueless. They were pretty darn good in the 70s.

Yeah the Vikings were something back then. Now they consist of overpaying 2nd stringers like Bobby Wade and Shiancoe. That's just brutal.

[ND72]

Oh yeah, same with Reynolds. He was a need I beleive and didn't pan out. But Williamson? What did he do in college that says this guy is it? Drop passes while flashing speed?

Actually, Williamson was a 2 time, 1st team SEC all conference WR...he ran a 4.19 at the combine, and a 4.22 on grass. his times pushed him up the board, but he was considered the top WR that year even before he ran his times.

[Fritz]

Moss isn't a QB eater.....LOL. You are thinking about TO.

IF Favre goes another two years, that's about as long as Moss will be effective for us anyway. I don't put him up there with Jerry Rice because Moss is somewhat one dimensional in that he is awesome in the long ball but average everywhere else. He has a few good seasons left in him and that's all we need him for anyway. After that, DD and Moss will be looked at getting replaced on the roster or moved to #3 & #4. Moss, primarily because he won't be as effective in our offense as teams learn to defend us and DD because of all of the punishment he has taken over the years. I hope I am wrong about DD and that his body can take it but I also look to his age and I see a serious injury down the road for him because of his age. In my mind, he is the consummate receiver and like Favre, I wish we could keep him for 15 years.

Sorry, Merlin. I am thinking of Moss. I read an article - JSO I think - in which it was mentioned that once Culpepper was hurt in Minny, Moss got poutier and poutier about the QB not getting him the ball often enough, not being accurate enough, and so on. This continued in Oakland, where he ate Broods and Walter alive in the lockerroom, according to same article. We do agree though that Moss is only a two year answer, tops, if he's an answer at all.

[Rastak]

Oh yeah, same with Reynolds. He was a need I beleive and didn't pan out. But Williamson? What did he do in college that says this guy is it? Drop passes while flashing speed?

Actually, Williamson was a 2 time, 1st team SEC all conference WR...he ran a 4.19 at the combine, and a 4.22 on grass. his times pushed him up the board, but he was considered the top WR that year even before he ran his times.

I'm sure he would have gone top 15 had the Vikings not drafted him but he's earning the BUST label, thats for sure.

[wist43]

Actually, I think Williamson still has a chance...

The organization he went to couldn't have helped... they're a pretty dysfunctional group over there in the Twin Cities.

Getting rid of Moss and Culpepper was a step in the right direction, but they've been a rudderless ship for a while now - the Vikings have a talented roster, but I really don't think they've ever seen the value of leadership at the top... w/o quality leadership at the top, I don't care how much talent you have, you're not going to win anything.

[lod01]

Oh yeah, same with Reynolds. He was a need I beleive and didn't pan out. But Williamson? What did he do in college that says this guy is it? Drop passes while flashing speed?

Actually, Williamson was a 2 time, 1st team SEC all conference WR...he ran a 4.19 at the combine, and a 4.22 on grass. his times pushed him up the board, but he was considered the top WR that year even before he ran his times.

There had to be some awful SEC WR's those years because this is the best he could muster:

As a junior, Williamson accounted for a career-high 835 yards on 43 receptions with seven touchdowns.

before that it was this: 31 passes for 428 yards (13.8 avg.) and two touchdowns. How did that get a 1st team all SEC rating????


Negatives: Has adequate hands, but struggles to adjust to the over-the-shoulder tosses

That doesn't bode well for a player the Vikes were thinking could take Moss' spot. We all know speed kills....a team...... if the guy can't catch.