Bob McGinn on Vernon Davis

[swede]

I have no problem with anyone arguing that DBrick is nearly perfect at Left Tackle and should be rated higher than Hawk. If we take him we all know why it happened; he'd have been the best damn player there in TT's mind.


I just simply hate linemen being taken first. Hate it. John Michaels, Ross Verba, ugh.

[Partial]

The best player every year and every round will probably result in a really unbalanced team. There has to be a balance. AJ Hawk is a sure-fire prospect. He is as good of a prospect as any one before him at his position, his position is just less important. Thus, the lower number.

My thoughts are take the man and fuck debrick.

Debrick wouldn't even play this year. No way does he step in and beat out Cliffy. A #5 pick thats not a QB riding the pine is ridiculous.

[Deputy Nutz]

Taking an offensive linemen with the top ten picks is fucking stupid in my opinion. You can create a dynamic offensive line with low round picks. Look at the Packers line in 2003 and 2004.

Clifton = 2nd round pick
Wahle = 2nd round pick
Flanigan = 3rd round pick
Rivera = 4th round pick
Tauscher = 7th round pick

Not one of them was taken in the first round, especially not one was taken with the fifth overall pick.

[swede]

The best player every year and every round will probably result in a really unbalanced team. There has to be a balance. AJ Hawk is a sure-fire prospect. He is as good of a prospect as any one before him at his position, his position is just less important. Thus, the lower number.

My thoughts are take the man and fuck debrick.

Debrick wouldn't even play this year. No way does he step in and beat out Cliffy. A #5 pick thats not a QB riding the pine is ridiculous.

I agree with your first thought there, Partial. So I wonder how GM's organize their charts as they try to be objective and yet sometimes know that the right thing to do isn't on the chart.

[Bretsky]

That would have been pretty stupid to draft Randy Moss when we just signed Freeman to a big deal and had a DE sitting right there.

Do you guys know why people study history? Because if you don't know what happened you are doomed to repeat it.

I don't remember the Packers ever drafting a star player and saying "Oh shoot, we shouldn't have picked this probowl star player. Can we just trade him for a 2nd round gaurd because it's almost the same thing." Conversly, I do remember quite a few times that we passed up a star at a position that was not needed only to look back and say "We should have grabbed the star player" Thompson has been quoted as saying this is a common trend and something he is not intending on repeating.

Hawk and Ferguson do not get almost the same grade. EVERY single scout quoted and draft service printed has Ferguson a solid notch above Hawk. Why would you take a lesser player when a guy better than him is on the board?

This is a blog of junk with misleading statements. Wolf skippped Moss for character reasons. Don't try to compare that with passing over Ferguson for Hawk. Sure I'd take Ferguson over the Guard, if Tauscher wouldn't be too pissed off at moving......but TT being quoted with all the best available crap and he's not going to repeat old mistakes is something any GM would come in and say.

And look at scouts.com; they currently rate Ferguson as the 3rd best player and Hawk as #5. So where's the solid notch ?? I can post site after site that have these two ranked closely.

[Bretsky]

Leinart is rated by some above DF; do we take him too if he's best available ?

[Tarlam!]

Leinart is rated by some above DF; do we take him too if he's best available ?

Yes, we should. I am not sure about Young or Cutler, though.

[MJZiggy]

Moot?

Jets | V. Davis thinks the Jets will pick him
Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:42:09 -0700

Mark Cannizzaro, of the New York Post, reports Maryland TE Vernon Davis thinks the New York Jets will select him in the first round of the NFL Draft. "I think I'm going to the Jets," Davis told The Post Wednesday, April 27. "If I'd say anything, I'd say the Jets will draft me. I'm pretty sure, if nothing crazy happens, it'll be the Jets." Asked if he believes he can come in and be an immediate impact player, Davis said, "Oh, I know I can, right away."


What does that do to the mocks?

[Tarlam!]

I would love Davis to be gone. But, I would prefer the 3 QBs and that OT to be gone even more. I don't want that "Best player" shit landing us a QB or an OT.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tarlam, I don't see why u are satisfied with our offensive lineup.

[Tarlam!]

Tarlam, I don't see why u are satisfied with our offensive lineup.

I don't wanna QB or OT with our first pick, so this msut equate to satisfaction with our total offense?

Should I type a little softer around you today, HH?

[RashanGary]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Davis go before Hawk. He's bigger, faster, stronger, more explosive and pretty much everything else you could possibly think of.

[SkinBasket]

And look at scouts.com; they currently rate Ferguson as the 3rd best player and Hawk as #5. So where's the solid notch ?? I can post site after site that have these two ranked closely.

Good points B.
NC, How the fuck do you propose that you, or any one else, rank a LB and an OT head-to-head? What is this "solid notch" crapheap? My cock is a "solid notch" above my ass, but that doesn't mean it's any more important. Apples and oranges. Cocks and asses. Get my drift?

[RashanGary]

We might as well not compare players to eachother because it's impossible. Why don't you go feed that to all the GM's and scouts who get paid a lot of money to do exactly that.

How can you even begin to compare Reggie Bush to Chad Greenway? Apples to Oranges...Cocks to Asses..You get my drift

[RashanGary]

Trust me Skin basket there are ways to form educated opinions that project each players impact on the game. There is a reason Bush goes before Winston Justice and Hawk goes before DeAngelo Williams. It's not a direct comparision but rather an educated opinion which projects what player will make the biggest impact on the field in relation to the other players.

Just about every reputable source has D'brick rated above Hawk....Yes it is possible to do that because they all have Calhoun rated below Hawk as well. Maybe it's just by chance that most look similar.