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  • #16
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    He had a 60% completion percentage and 250 yards/game. He only had 3 interceptions in 4 games. Hardly stats that would say that he sucked. I'm sure he wasn't great, but he wasn't nearly Brad Johnson bad.
    Dude, you should have watched the games I saw. I don't give a good god damn how many yards he threw for. He gave both games away. You know better than to grab some statistic and make it sound like the beat all end all. I ain't throwing sour grapes, I'm telling you what I saw, and Saban did too.

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    • #17
      yeah, there was a reason joey harrington took over

      only to latter be benched

      and theres a reason why they're looking for someone else

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      • #18
        I saw him in two games also. He was horrible against Pittsburgh. It was his first game with the Dolphins, in a new offense, with a bum knee, at Pittsburgh. The other game he was decent. I don't know how he did in the other two games, but I think it would be really tough to judge him based off last year. He only played 4 games. On a new team. With a bum knee. He didn't even get a chance to get in a rhythm.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          I saw him in two games also. He was horrible against Pittsburgh. It was his first game with the Dolphins, in a new offense, with a bum knee, at Pittsburgh. The other game he was decent. I don't know how he did in the other two games, but I think it would be really tough to judge him based off last year. He only played 4 games. On a new team. With a bum knee. He didn't even get a chance to get in a rhythm.

          Well, we'll see I guess. It's been two years now where he hasn't impressed me in the least. I think his issue is further north than his knee but again, we'll see.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by red
            yeah, there was a reason joey harrington took over

            only to latter be benched

            and theres a reason why they're looking for someone else
            Harrington took over because Culpepper was obviously affected by his injury and the coaches sat him. They got off to a 1-3 start, and they were under pressure to win last year.

            Let me ask you something. Did you think he sucked or even just overrated when he played for the Vikings?

            Plenty of QBs have struggled and the team has looked for someone else. Doesn't mean the QB sucks. Detroit looked to move on without Jeff Garcia. He did well last year. Houston is looking to move on without David Carr. I still think Carr could be solid. Tennessee looked to move on without Steve McNair. He rebounded well last year. Kansas City is looking to move on without Trent Green. Doesn't mean Green can't play well. Hell, he's moving to the team that Culpepper plays for. So, does that mean Culpepper or Green is better. Both have their former teams looking to move on without them. Alright, I'm just rambling at this point.

            Culpepper was a great QB for several years. Usually the same people that rip him for last year are the same ones who claim he wasn't ever any good. Personally, I think it's a crock. I live in Minnesota. The guy would put up a huge game, they'd lose a close game because their defense completely sucked, and Viking fans would come on the radio and blame Culpepper. I never thought the guy got a fair shake around here, so maybe I'm a little defensive for him.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
              Originally posted by red
              yeah, there was a reason joey harrington took over

              only to latter be benched

              and theres a reason why they're looking for someone else
              Harrington took over because Culpepper was obviously affected by his injury and the coaches sat him. They got off to a 1-3 start, and they were under pressure to win last year.

              Let me ask you something. Did you think he sucked or even just overrated when he played for the Vikings?

              Plenty of QBs have struggled and the team has looked for someone else. Doesn't mean the QB sucks. Detroit looked to move on without Jeff Garcia. He did well last year. Houston is looking to move on without David Carr. I still think Carr could be solid. Tennessee looked to move on without Steve McNair. He rebounded well last year. Kansas City is looking to move on without Trent Green. Doesn't mean Green can't play well. Hell, he's moving to the team that Culpepper plays for. So, does that mean Culpepper or Green is better. Both have their former teams looking to move on without them. Alright, I'm just rambling at this point.

              Culpepper was a great QB for several years. Usually the same people that rip him for last year are the same ones who claim he wasn't ever any good. Personally, I think it's a crock. I live in Minnesota. The guy would put up a huge game, they'd lose a close game because their defense completely sucked, and Viking fans would come on the radio and blame Culpepper. I never thought the guy got a fair shake around here, so maybe I'm a little defensive for him.
              yes, culpepper was great with the queens, when he had randy mos in his prime and those two could just play pitch and catch all day

              do you think he played good in 2005 without mos before he was injured?

              we saw that same exact, lost, daunte last year

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              • #22
                He played awful in 2005. Guys have down years. He was off to a rough start last year, but it was just 4 games, and Tom Brady probably would have had a rough start with the Dolphins in those games. He would have been learning a new system, with a bum knee, playing behind one of the very worst OLs in the game. I wasn't surprised that he struggled last year. Hell, I called it. He's not the brightest tool in the shed. Any team that picks him up has to realize it's a long-term investment because it's going to take Culpepper longer to get comfortable in an offense than most QBs. Who knows. His knee may be so shredded that he may never be the same. Moss obviously was great, but he wasn't the only reason Culpepper threw for 39 TDs with just 11 interceptions, ran for 400 yards, and had the highest combined yardage for a QB in NFL history in 2004. Look at Oakland the last two years to see that Randy Moss alone isn't going to make your stats that stellar.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                  Originally posted by red
                  yeah, there was a reason joey harrington took over

                  only to latter be benched

                  and theres a reason why they're looking for someone else
                  Harrington took over because Culpepper was obviously affected by his injury and the coaches sat him. They got off to a 1-3 start, and they were under pressure to win last year.

                  Let me ask you something. Did you think he sucked or even just overrated when he played for the Vikings?

                  Plenty of QBs have struggled and the team has looked for someone else. Doesn't mean the QB sucks. Detroit looked to move on without Jeff Garcia. He did well last year. Houston is looking to move on without David Carr. I still think Carr could be solid. Tennessee looked to move on without Steve McNair. He rebounded well last year. Kansas City is looking to move on without Trent Green. Doesn't mean Green can't play well. Hell, he's moving to the team that Culpepper plays for. So, does that mean Culpepper or Green is better. Both have their former teams looking to move on without them. Alright, I'm just rambling at this point.

                  Culpepper was a great QB for several years. Usually the same people that rip him for last year are the same ones who claim he wasn't ever any good. Personally, I think it's a crock. I live in Minnesota. The guy would put up a huge game, they'd lose a close game because their defense completely sucked, and Viking fans would come on the radio and blame Culpepper. I never thought the guy got a fair shake around here, so maybe I'm a little defensive for him.

                  I loved the guy (in a football sort of way) for years. I understood when Mad called him Culfumbler. He seemed to be very streaky however and he was horrible before his knee got taken out by a cheap hit (FU Gamble). Again, I think his issues are further north than his knee. Just my opinion. He's got a great arm, he may not be able to run anymore and his decision making still kinda blows.

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                  • #24
                    Can't argue with the fact the guy is a fumbler. He also hasn't led a ton of late comebacks. Those are legitimate knocks. He was also a physical freak that carried his team to a quite a few victories, put up big numbers, and was actually very well-liked in the locker room. I think he would have looked a lot better if he had even average defenses in Minnesota.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #25
                      I thought 'pep was a pretty damn good QB before he shredded his knee. Let's put it this way: I was concerned when the Packers played the Vikings and Culpepper was out on the field. With Brad Johnson and Tav Jackson, I had way less stress.

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                      • #26
                        From Yahoo Sports:

                        Members of the Dolphins organization have indicated they have doubts about Culpepper’s ability to recover from a knee injury and subsequent surgeries. Culpepper was limited to four games last season before undergoing more surgery this year.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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