Turner to the Pack

[Charles Woodson]

Whoa, Vince!

That is one king-hell good vat of Kool-Aide you brewed up!.

What the hell, it's the off-season, lemme dip my ladel in there and have a big sip.

With the exception of BF being a HOF quarterback, way too many ifs in those points and one could put positive or negative spins on nearly every one. A great kool aide post, but I'm not seeing it yet.

There's no guarantee with a FA either. There are ALWAYS ifs no matter what. IF we get a FA and IF he doesn't get hurt, He SHOULD be pretty good IF he perfoms like you expect him to. And you talk about bringing vets in, remember, right now, we have no rookies on the team. They are ALL vets.

Did anybody say there were guarantees with free agency ? I guess your solutions is not to try

Other teams have done the trying for us. Washington and Minny are perfect examples from last yr when FA doesn't work..

Its all about signing the players that are a best fit. For washington nd minny it was a lack of scouting and player analysis.

[Patler]

What would they want that we have? Talk of trade is fun and all, but realistically, what do the Chargers need that we have?

Draft picks; the Chargers want Draft Picks.

They want WR threats. McCardell is gone and they need weapons to add to their LT and Gates duo.

The two players they'd want from Green would be Driver and Jennings; but that's not practical. So they want draft picks.

I don't think TT would give up a 1st and 3rd for Turner. Hell, I wouldn't give a 1st and a 3rd for Turner. With that 3rd we could get a RB that has a shot at becoming our future RB. Perhaps Pittman or Irons?

Any team could have him for a first and a third without any negotiation whatsoever. The whole trade scenario is, by definition, something less than that...

The reality for the Chargers is that Turner will become a free agent after next year, so they'll likely lose him and get nothing in return unless they franchise him, which would cost them way too much for a reserve. It's pretty much now or never if they want to get any value for him.

The Chargers are in a bit of a situation though. The have a legitimate Super Bowl contending team. If LT were to be injured, while significant, having Turner it might not ruin their opportunity. Without Turner, who knows what happens if LT goes down.

If I'm the Chargers, as a contender, I think I keep him unless an offer is too good to pass up. I don't trade him just to "get something" for him. Not this year, not with their team where it is.

[Bretsky]

Whoa, Vince!

That is one king-hell good vat of Kool-Aide you brewed up!.

What the hell, it's the off-season, lemme dip my ladel in there and have a big sip.

With the exception of BF being a HOF quarterback, way too many ifs in those points and one could put positive or negative spins on nearly every one. A great kool aide post, but I'm not seeing it yet.

There's no guarantee with a FA either. There are ALWAYS ifs no matter what. IF we get a FA and IF he doesn't get hurt, He SHOULD be pretty good IF he perfoms like you expect him to. And you talk about bringing vets in, remember, right now, we have no rookies on the team. They are ALL vets.

Did anybody say there were guarantees with free agency ? I guess your solutions is not to try

Other teams have done the trying for us. Washington and Minny are perfect examples from last yr when FA doesn't work..

Free agency works sometimes and it does not sometimes. It's equally deceptive to say FA works or free agency does not work and leave the general statement as that.

And to select the extremes while ignoring the other factors in Minnesota is deceptive. Washington just has terrible scouts or selection of the players.

The Patriots signed several free agents with key roles in the Super Bowl years. Green Bay signed Reggie White, Santana Dotson, Sean Jones, and Eugene Robinson.

The key is to pick the right players; seeing everybody has money these days guys are going to get paid well. The key is picking the right players if you decide to play the free agency game.

It's silly to say it does or does not work.

[red]

Before I read the posts, I thought it was 'e' for Red. Which didn't make a lot of sense, but then that's not really a requirement is it?

LOL

makes sense to me

[Guiness]

The Chargers are in a bit of a situation though. The have a legitimate Super Bowl contending team. If LT were to be injured, while significant, having Turner it might not ruin their opportunity. Without Turner, who knows what happens if LT goes down.

If I'm the Chargers, as a contender, I think I keep him unless an offer is too good to pass up. I don't trade him just to "get something" for him. Not this year, not with their team where it is.

Unless they can do something to get them over the hump. They're a Super Bowl 'contender' that got punted in the first round last year. Do they look at the roster, and see what they're missing (wide receivers, IMO) or do they chalk it up to bad luck and take another run? Third option, to they decide it was Marty's fault, and take another run?

I think they'd take a genuine #1 or good #2 WR in a trade. I bet we could have him for Jennings. Not sure how I'd feel about that...it fills one hole, but creates another.

[Bretsky]

I would bet that on draft day the Chargers will accept a 2nd round draft pick

Trade down in round one for an extra third; trade the 2nd for Turner and our 3rd for Moss.

Wake up; it was a nice dream while it lasted

[Chevelle2]

Getting Turner would be huge imo. Morency and Turner together in the backfield, as well as whoever will be our 3rd RB. It would also give us some flexibility on draft day. If we were to swap 1st rounders with SD, we could pick say Meriweather, Meachum, Bowe, Jarvis Moss or Eric Weddle or even Greg Olsen if he fell (unlikely) there. Then in round 2 go Zach Miller or something (unreleated to Turner Trade) So come draft day we could have say:

Acquire:
Turner
Meriweather/Meachum/Bowe/Jarvis Moss/Weddle/Olsen
Randy Moss (of course assuming the trade goes down)
Zach Miller

Give Up:
4th (for Moss)
KGB (for Moss)
#16

Im all for that!!! And its not all that farfetched either

[pack4to84]

Getting Turner would be huge imo. Morency and Turner together in the backfield, as well as whoever will be our 3rd RB. It would also give us some flexibility on draft day. If we were to swap 1st rounders with SD, we could pick say Meriweather, Meachum, Bowe, Jarvis Moss or Eric Weddle or even Greg Olsen if he fell (unlikely) there. Then in round 2 go Zach Miller or something (unreleated to Turner Trade) So come draft day we could have say:

Acquire:
Turner
Meriweather/Meachum/Bowe/Jarvis Moss/Weddle/Olsen
Randy Moss (of course assuming the trade goes down)
Zach Miller

Give Up:
4th (for Moss)
KGB (for Moss)
#16

Im all for that!!! And its not all that farfetched either

Getting these guys would make me happy. I think this could happen. I saw
a poll on another web site asking if we would do this trade like you said for Turner. Most people vote for the trade last I checked.

[MadtownPacker]

Acquire:
Turner
Meriweather/Meachum/Bowe/Jarvis Moss/Weddle/Olsen
Randy Moss (of course assuming the trade goes down)
Zach Miller

Give Up:
4th (for Moss)
KGB (for Moss)
#16

Im all for that!!! And its not all that farfetched either

I like all this but even if the moss trade was a 3rd it wouild still be good.

[imscott72]

Yeah I agree with u guys 100%. Turner for a 2nd imo is a no brainer. Not sure how you can pass that up if I'm TT given our RB situation. TT does like his picks tho, so who knows.

[MJZiggy]

I thought he said this year that he doesn't need as many as he did in years past. Didn't someone say he said that at Fanfest?

[Bretsky]

I thought he said this year that he doesn't need as many as he did in years past. Didn't someone say he said that at Fanfest?

ND said that; but what is TT going to say....we still have terrible depth ?

[pittstang5]

Just saw this from our favorite "rumor" starter on PC. (remember, it's just a rumor)

"The Packers and the Chargers are indeed talking about a deal that would send Michael Turner and the #30 pick to the Pack for ther #16. Players that MAY be there at #30 if a deal goes down, Dwayne Jarrett, Ted Ginn, Brandon Merriweather, Michael Griffin and Greg Olsen."

Ok, I know some in here don't like the Arrigo rumors. His rumors don't make sense at times, but this one, whether it's true or not, has me excited.
I would love for Turner to be a Packer.

[BallHawk]

Wow, that would be a good deal. We could still pick up a player like Meachem or Ginn at that spot and we pick up a starting RB.

It's too good to be true.

[MadtownPacker]

That would be a great trade!

I dont think Lynch will be their at #16 and Turner is ready to jump into the starting role. Man, getting Moss and Turner would have me drooling for the seaon to start.