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  • #31
    Culver, Blackmon, & Jolly were 3 guys I thought of right away.

    Sometimes being hurt that first year is a benefit tio a young guy.

    All these guys have potential and are chomping at the bit. Now, in the 2nd year, they know what the league is all about and at least two of 'em will have an impact.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by CyclonePackFan
      Will Blackmon

      Never got a chance to show anything, as he was injured too early. Abilities at WR and DB, both areas currently lacking depth. I think he might wind up as the dime back. Also has potential as a returner.
      Will Blackmon had loads of talent and if he can remain healthy there is alot of reason to have hope in what he can give us.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by retailguy
        Originally posted by GregJennings
        Morency ran behind that same bad line better than Green a year ago. We might get Lynch too.
        Morency has TWO good games, against Arizona and Philadelphia. He DID NOT run better behind the line than Green did. Most games he had ONE good run then stunk it up the rest of the game. Rushing statistics don't sway me, Greg, and they shouldn't sway you. When Morency contacted the Defense, HE FELL DOWN, when Green contacted the defense, his legs NEVER stopped churning. There is a clear difference between the talent of Vernand Morency and the talent of Ahman Green, even if Green is "over the hill" as you think. Can Morency improve? SURE. But he hasn't done so yet.

        Perhaps you should rewatch the Minnesota game last season. 4 rushes - 4 yards. Might also watch the Jets game. 6 rushes - 14 yards. Mix those two in with the Arizona game - 11 rushes 101 yards.

        Lynch has not proven he could run behind a bad line either. But we'll see. I think Thompson drafts defense, even if Lynch is there. We'll see.
        Ahman had a stellar 2.5 ypc and 55 yards on 22 carries against the Vikes. Thats by no means lights out and isn't any better because in 22 carries you're bound to break two or three 8 yards.

        In the other game, he was 18 rushes for 42 yards against the Vikes. Even worse.

        If it wasn't for a 35 yard run against the Jets, Greens game would have been crappy there, too.

        You also failed to acknowledge Green's stellar 2.6 ypc average against the saints on 16 carries. Awesome.

        His 13 rushes for 28 yards against the Patriots.

        Overall, Morency did a heck of a lot better on the time that was given to him than Green. Green's stats were also severely inflated by an exquisite blocking job by the offensive line on his long run at miami.

        He was OK at best last year.

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        • #34
          I'm definitly concerned about the health of MOrency but I do think he is a more explosive back than Green at this point in their careers and that he is a very small step down overall to Green right now.

          For the money; I take Morency every time. Hopefully we land Lynch though. I think LYnch could be one of the top 10 players in thsi draft if he works hard.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #35
            Really though, I'm just thankfull Sherman isn't the GM here in GB. Our cap would be right back to hell almost instantaniously. Acctually; we never would have gotten out to begin with.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by retailguy
              Perhaps you should rewatch the Minnesota game last season. 4 rushes - 4 yards. Might also watch the Jets game. 6 rushes - 14 yards. Mix those two in with the Arizona game - 11 rushes 101 yards.
              no RB rushed for big numbers vs. Minnesota #1 run defense
              To much of a good thing is an awesome thing

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GregJennings
                I'm definitly concerned about the health of MOrency but I do think he is a more explosive back than Green at this point in their careers and that he is a very small step down overall to Green right now.

                For the money; I take Morency every time. Hopefully we land Lynch though. I think LYnch could be one of the top 10 players in thsi draft if he works hard.

                After last year I don't know how to argue that Morency is better than Green. Harvey pointed out several stats showing Morency's effectiveness was against two terrible run defenses. I was at a game and he looked like junk and Noah flippin Herron came in and had a stellar game. He has some speed, but evidence wisde it behooves me how anybody could make a solid case for that. But sometimes blind faith is the best kind
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by GregJennings
                  Really though, I'm just thankfull Sherman isn't the GM here in GB. Our cap would be right back to hell almost instantaniously. Acctually; we never would have gotten out to begin with.
                  Sherman tried to win now; he made terrible mistakes packaging duo picks for one and then picking the wrong person. He made a bad mistake with the punter.

                  But after watching Aaron Kampman and Corey Williams blossom he was nowhere near as bad of a GM that I use to argue he was.

                  Ted Thompson is trying to set up this team for down the road and sacrifices the ability for short term success.

                  Time will tell who is better.
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Partial
                    Originally posted by retailguy
                    Originally posted by GregJennings
                    Morency ran behind that same bad line better than Green a year ago. We might get Lynch too.
                    Morency has TWO good games, against Arizona and Philadelphia. He DID NOT run better behind the line than Green did. Most games he had ONE good run then stunk it up the rest of the game. Rushing statistics don't sway me, Greg, and they shouldn't sway you. When Morency contacted the Defense, HE FELL DOWN, when Green contacted the defense, his legs NEVER stopped churning. There is a clear difference between the talent of Vernand Morency and the talent of Ahman Green, even if Green is "over the hill" as you think. Can Morency improve? SURE. But he hasn't done so yet.

                    Perhaps you should rewatch the Minnesota game last season. 4 rushes - 4 yards. Might also watch the Jets game. 6 rushes - 14 yards. Mix those two in with the Arizona game - 11 rushes 101 yards.

                    Lynch has not proven he could run behind a bad line either. But we'll see. I think Thompson drafts defense, even if Lynch is there. We'll see.
                    Ahman had a stellar 2.5 ypc and 55 yards on 22 carries against the Vikes. Thats by no means lights out and isn't any better because in 22 carries you're bound to break two or three 8 yards.

                    In the other game, he was 18 rushes for 42 yards against the Vikes. Even worse.

                    If it wasn't for a 35 yard run against the Jets, Greens game would have been crappy there, too.

                    You also failed to acknowledge Green's stellar 2.6 ypc average against the saints on 16 carries. Awesome.

                    His 13 rushes for 28 yards against the Patriots.

                    Overall, Morency did a heck of a lot better on the time that was given to him than Green. Green's stats were also severely inflated by an exquisite blocking job by the offensive line on his long run at miami.

                    He was OK at best last year.

                    Where was the Vikings Run defense rated last year ?

                    Didn't Harvey already provide a Patler esque breakdown showing some solid factual details on where Green's rushing yards came from versus Morency's ?

                    I don't think Green wasy Great or anything, but to say Morency is better than Green is completely puzzing to me
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #40
                      I said Morency was better for teh money B...

                      I'd rather go with Morency untill a real solution comes along. I think patients is a very valuable thing for an NFL GM.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by GregJennings
                        I said Morency was better for teh money B...

                        I'd rather go with Morency untill a real solution comes along. I think patients is a very valuable thing for an NFL GM.

                        Oops; careless when I was reading. I'm fine with those saying we should have avoided Texan type money. I sure do hope they address the RB spot in the draft though. I suppose a cheap Chris Brown along with Morency would be a short term bandaid as well
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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