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    Why Don't the packers look at D.Hall FOR KR/PR?!!?

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    The Chiefs may release Dante Hall if they can't find a trading partner for him.

    A team may give up a seventh-round pick for Hall on draft day, but we doubt Kansas City could do much better than that. It looks like his days in Kansas City are done.
    Source: Kansas City Star

    Doesn't the packers have 3 seventh round draft picks... SEND 1 over there, and we can get a decent KR/PR... There would not be much risk in sending a 7th over there, and we all know D.Hall is a beast on special teams...
    (hes tried to play wr, but hes not that good at it)...

    Thoughts???
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  • #2
    Why not just wait and see if he gets released?
    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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    • #3
      I would wait too...plus of our 3 7th rounders, we can't trade the compensatory pick, so we "only" have 2 to trade.
      "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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      • #4
        I'd take a solid #4 best returner in the league for a 6th gladly.

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        • #5
          How much does he have left in the tank? Why are the Chiefs wanting to get rid of him? Is it a salary issue or playing ability issue?

          I'm all for it if we can pick him up for a 7th rd pick or even after they release him

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          • #6
            What happened to "build through the draft". Don't you get "ALL" of your good guys through the draft? Shouldn't we use that 6th or 7th rounder on some "sleeper" that'll be the next Marquise Colston?

            Really, what's the difference? You've all been saying, "we need to play with the guys we've got". OK, you've convinced me. Let's do it.... :P

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            • #7
              Originally posted by retailguy
              What happened to "build through the draft". Don't you get "ALL" of your good guys through the draft? Shouldn't we use that 6th or 7th rounder on some "sleeper" that'll be the next Marquise Colston?

              Really, what's the difference? You've all been saying, "we need to play with the guys we've got". OK, you've convinced me. Let's do it.... :P
              It's all about relative value. Ahman was an awful value at the price we would have had to pay. This guy can be brought in for a year or two relatively cheap.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Partial
                Originally posted by retailguy
                What happened to "build through the draft". Don't you get "ALL" of your good guys through the draft? Shouldn't we use that 6th or 7th rounder on some "sleeper" that'll be the next Marquise Colston?

                Really, what's the difference? You've all been saying, "we need to play with the guys we've got". OK, you've convinced me. Let's do it.... :P
                It's all about relative value. Ahman was an awful value at the price we would have had to pay. This guy can be brought in for a year or two relatively cheap.
                How do you know that? You can assume that, just like you can assume that Green was a bad value. Point is, no one knows. You can't remove risk on these transactions. If you could, every Tom, Dick, or Harry would get traded.

                No one would trade a "superstar" kr/pr in the normal course of business. There is a reason he's available. There is risk behind that reason. Relatively cheap might be flushing money down the drain.

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                • #9
                  Hall has sucked the last two years. He's averaged around 8 yards/punt return and 22 yards/kickoff return, and he's virtually worthless as a receiver now. He seems to have gotten old in a hurry. Could he resurrect his career? Sure. But he's not near the player he once was. That's why KC wants to get rid of him.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #10
                    These sorts of things are why I really don't trust message boards to make good football decisions. I doubt any of us has watched a lot of Hall tape in the past couple years. I know I haven't watched more than one or two Chiefs games in that time. So we mostly remember what was good about Hall when he was making the highlight reel on ESPN and don't really have a good sense (myself included) about what's wrong with him.

                    If I could get Hall in his prime for a 7th, I would in a second. Pretty much any NFL team with a 7th round pick would. But I don't know what's wrong with him now, and that's why I'm confident in relying on the judgment of Thompson et. al., since those folks are paid to know these things. So in general I encourage exercising caution. There's no need to shed tears over not signing Hall, and there's really no reason to print superbowl tickets if we do sign him. As best I can tell he's not a difference maker anymore, he's just a guy.
                    </delurk>

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                    • #11
                      Ahman Green has been a starter for the past 7 years, Dante Hall has been a starter for the past 7 years (KR/PR).

                      You are right, it is all relative. I would rather have Green @ 5 Mil/year then a one dimensional player that only sees the field maybe 30 times a season for 2Mil/year and a draft pick. He is worthless as a receiver and he can only do one thing and we can pick up someone else to do that cheap.
                      "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                      – Benjamin Franklin

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lurker64
                        These sorts of things are why I really don't trust message boards to make good football decisions. I doubt any of us has watched a lot of Hall tape in the past couple years. I know I haven't watched more than one or two Chiefs games in that time. So we mostly remember what was good about Hall when he was making the highlight reel on ESPN and don't really have a good sense (myself included) about what's wrong with him.

                        If I could get Hall in his prime for a 7th, I would in a second. Pretty much any NFL team with a 7th round pick would. But I don't know what's wrong with him now, and that's why I'm confident in relying on the judgment of Thompson et. al., since those folks are paid to know these things. So in general I encourage exercising caution. There's no need to shed tears over not signing Hall, and there's really no reason to print superbowl tickets if we do sign him. As best I can tell he's not a difference maker anymore, he's just a guy.
                        2006...

                        KR -
                        Yds Avg Lg TD 40+
                        1207 22.8 60 0 3

                        PR-
                        Ret Yds Avg Lg TD 20+
                        240 8.9 60 1 4

                        HIS WORST YEAR IS STILL BETTER THAN ANYONE ON THE PACKERS... Plus I have NFL ticket, I watch some of thier games, hes still good...

                        HES NOT JUST A GUY.. OVER 5 years we have had "just a guy" at KR... Yea , the special teams have blew ass for the past 5 years also...

                        "He is worthless as a receiver and he can only do one thing and we can pick up someone else to do that cheap."

                        Chatman... Fergy... Herron... All the crapshoots we put at KR... They did real great for our KR/PR...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Merlin
                          Ahman Green has been a starter for the past 7 years, Dante Hall has been a starter for the past 7 years (KR/PR).

                          You are right, it is all relative. I would rather have Green @ 5 Mil/year then a one dimensional player that only sees the field maybe 30 times a season for 2Mil/year and a draft pick. He is worthless as a receiver and he can only do one thing and we can pick up someone else to do that cheap.
                          yeah, signing cheap return men has worked well for the pack since they decided to let allen rossum walk.

                          Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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                          • #14
                            yeah, signing cheap return men has worked well for the pack since they decided to let allen rossum walk.

                            Yea that worked really well...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by packers11
                              2006...

                              KR -
                              Yds Avg Lg TD 40+
                              1207 22.8 60 0 3

                              PR-
                              Ret Yds Avg Lg TD 20+
                              240 8.9 60 1 4

                              HIS WORST YEAR IS STILL BETTER THAN ANYONE ON THE PACKERS... Plus I have NFL ticket, I watch some of thier games, hes still good...

                              HES NOT JUST A GUY.. OVER 5 years we have had "just a guy" at KR... Yea , the special teams have blew ass for the past 5 years also...

                              "He is worthless as a receiver and he can only do one thing and we can pick up someone else to do that cheap."

                              Chatman... Fergy... Herron... All the crapshoots we put at KR... They did real great for our KR/PR...
                              Look at his punt return average in 2005. It was under 7 yards/return, so it wasn't necessarily his worst year. And to say his worst year is better than anyone on the Packers is shady also--since Woodson and Morency's return averages were virtually the same as Hall (Woodson was even, in fact, better).
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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