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  • A Pretty Good Talent Evaluation Per JSO Article

    A little different from ND's positive spin on DT, Popp and Manuel.



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    "I think the arrow's going up," an executive in personnel for another National Football League team said Thursday. "I really think they're still one more year away, but they've got a chance to compete for their division.

    "Actually, I think Green Bay is doing really well. They're doing the right things. You've got to fill through the draft."

    The executive agreed to assess the status and degree of need at each of the Packers' positions:

    Wide receiver: "You got a Pro Bowler and a young, developing kid. You really got two guys, (Greg) Jennings and (Donald) Driver. You need a third that can be a threat. (Robert) Ferguson is on the downside. I think we all saw what he is. This (Ruvell) Martin guy, he's limited. Maybe he gets a little better but he's not really a threat. They didn't sign anybody. (Carlyle) Holiday is a guy they brought in late and did some decent things. That third spot isn't a major need but it's definitely a need."

    Tight end: "(David) Martin's gone, you've got to replace one. We know (Donald) Lee is limited. They have a blocker (Bubba Franks) and a wide-receiver type in Lee. Martin kind of did both. It's not a pressing need. I think receiver is more of a need than tight end. Franks is a red-area weapon but not really a weapon in the middle of the field."

    Tackle: "If everybody is healthy they're fine. But how long can they go? Depends on (Kevin) Barry, (Tony) Moll. Maybe they think one of those guys could develop. I don't think there's a left-tackle candidate on the roster if (Chad) Clifton physically can't do it."

    Guard: "I think they could use a starter, but they've got some young, developing guys. They've drafted guards. I do think they need a guy that produces like a starter. Maybe with another year of development these guys get better. I have (Daryn) Colledge graded higher than the other guy (Jason Spitz). They probably feel they've got these guys already."

    Center: "They paid that kid (Scott Wells) so they don't think it's a need. You can get by with average centers in the league."

    Quarterback: "Well, they got (Brett) Favre and the (Aaron) Rodgers kid. That's status quo. Not a lot of teams have one, let alone three."

    Running back: "No. 1 need on offense. They do not have a No. 1. They're all backups. (Vernand Morency) hasn't done it. Maybe he can. He's got some speed. They've got a No. 2 and a No. 3. They just don't have a starter."

    Fullback: "Somebody could pop up there. That happens all the time. But today, to say they have a starting fullback, no. (Brandon) Miree has not fully blossomed yet. Maybe he can with a full off-season."

    Defensive end: "I think they're fine. If they keep "KGB" (Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila) in the third spot, they got three ends."

    Defensive tackle: "I think they need help there. Really, they need an inside pass rusher. If you really want to have a good defensive line they need another defensive tackle."

    Strong-side linebacker: "(Brady) Poppinga is coming off the knee and I think he will be better next year. He's a big specimen. In terms of physical play, he'll be OK there. But the coverage skills are limited. You give that up for the size."

    Middle linebacker: "Well, they just paid him (Nick Barnett) the big money. (Abdul Hodge) is an up-and-coming kid."

    Weak-side linebacker: "They got a guy (A.J. Hawk). I just think they got four linebackers. I don't like (Tracy) White."

    Cornerback: "I like the two starters. They've got to find a better third who can potentially be a starter. We just think Frank Walker is an average guy."

    Safety: "They need a starting strong safety. I thought (Marviel) Underwood showed some things back in '05 and then he got hurt. Tyrone Culver did some good things. But I don't like (Marquand) Manuel, the guy who was starting last year. I thought he was a guy to replace."

    Kicker: "That's a questionable area with (Dave) Rayner. I just thought he was OK."

    Punter: "The punter (Jon Ryan) needs to be replaced. You can get in his head."

    Return specialist: "I think you're competent there. You can continue to do that."

    Long snapper: "They're good to go."




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    Ryan

    I especially think he's right about Ryan. I hope Teddy saves a pick on a punter late in the draft.

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    • #3
      SOME INTERESTING TAKES

      GB seems happy with the two young Offensive Guards

      It doesn't surprise me that a talent evaluator would not consider Green Bay to have two competent starters and say they need another. I bet most evaluators
      outside of Green Bay would.

      He basically says we're crap after the first two WR's. Completely agree and why TT needs to grab a WR early in the draft.

      Need a starting safety........no surprise. I"m worried that the Snapper overestimates the talent we have back there.

      No starting RB ? No surprise. Need another competent TE- No surprise

      We've got a lot of holes to fill through the draft and the leftover free agent scrap heap.

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      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #4
        I'd love to see the Pack spend a 5th or deeper for Mason Crosby
        "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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        • #5
          Re: Ryan

          Originally posted by Packnut
          I especially think he's right about Ryan. I hope Teddy saves a pick on a punter late in the draft.
          How about in the 3rd, just to make sure we get one?

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          • #6
            Why is there no "Punter in the 3rd round Puking Face" in the emoticons?

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            • #7
              Re: Ryan

              Originally posted by Packnut
              I especially think he's right about Ryan. I hope Teddy saves a pick on a punter late in the draft.
              I would not give up on Ryan. The young man lost his father to cancer during midseason. I think he will be better.

              Like any team, the Packers need to bring in other punters as competition to established veterans. After all is said and done, however, I believe Ryan will most likely keep his position.

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