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  • #31
    You listed RB twice, dumbass.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #32
      Is our need for a starting safety that much greater than our need for a decent 3rd corner? I mean c'mon, the nickel back is out there for a majority of defensive snaps. We were awful, last year, on third down defense. And that was thanks in large part to our crap-ass nickel backs. If the Packers have Revies highly rated on their board, and he's there, they should grab him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bretsky


        You've often referred to 7; what are the 7 you refer to. For the fun of it I'd say

        S
        OG (I'm not sold on Spitz or the other yahoos)
        RB
        #3 WR
        TE
        RB
        #3 CB


        Do I win the prize ?

        6 out of 7 isn't bad. I'm not enamored with the OL, but I think you gotta let the guys play another year. I really dislike our KR's and I consider that the "key" to improving our dismal special teams. I see that as more important that TE or FB. So, that's what I'd substitute.

        I'm not fond of Miree either, but he's a FB.... so... that's why I thought that was a good position to fill with a Free Agent.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          You listed RB twice, dumbass.
          I totally missed that.... Thought he did say FB! He can't write, I can't read...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ahaha
            Is our need for a starting safety that much greater than our need for a decent 3rd corner? I mean c'mon, the nickel back is out there for a majority of defensive snaps. We were awful, last year, on third down defense. And that was thanks in large part to our crap-ass nickel backs. If the Packers have Revies highly rated on their board, and he's there, they should grab him.

            Surely if Ted Thompson signed a free agent he must be competent
            And Dendy wasn't that bad; Manuel was.
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #36
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
              You listed RB twice, dumbass.

              For the challenged maybe I needed to write in Starting HB and 3rd Down HB
              Or starting HB and FB

              Or maybe I am a dumbass and it was an honest mistake
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bretsky

                Or maybe I am a dumbass and it was an honest mistake

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  Originally posted by ahaha
                  Is our need for a starting safety that much greater than our need for a decent 3rd corner? I mean c'mon, the nickel back is out there for a majority of defensive snaps. We were awful, last year, on third down defense. And that was thanks in large part to our crap-ass nickel backs. If the Packers have Revies highly rated on their board, and he's there, they should grab him.

                  Surely if Ted Thompson signed a free agent he must be competent
                  And Dendy wasn't that bad; Manuel was.
                  Dendy sucked! He didn't look so bad because he wasn't as awful as Carrol. Manuel was bad too. It doesn't mean the Pack should reach on a safety when they might think they have a stud corner falling into their laps.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ahaha
                    Originally posted by Bretsky
                    Originally posted by ahaha
                    Is our need for a starting safety that much greater than our need for a decent 3rd corner? I mean c'mon, the nickel back is out there for a majority of defensive snaps. We were awful, last year, on third down defense. And that was thanks in large part to our crap-ass nickel backs. If the Packers have Revies highly rated on their board, and he's there, they should grab him.

                    Surely if Ted Thompson signed a free agent he must be competent
                    And Dendy wasn't that bad; Manuel was.
                    Dendy sucked! He didn't look so bad because he wasn't as awful as Carrol. Manuel was bad too. It doesn't mean the Pack should reach on a safety when they might think they have a stud corner falling into their laps.

                    Is Revis a stud corner ? I think he's the best of a weak group. He's a top 15 pick; I don't think he's that great of a value at 16 talent wise. That's about where he should go IMO. Reggie Nelson is a top 20 pick IMO.

                    I think they are comparable players; and given our need I'd take Nelson over Revis. Ditto for Lynch and a couple WR's.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Bretsky
                      Is Revis a stud corner ?
                      That's the real question. If the Pack think so, and he falls, they should take him.

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                      • #41
                        I like Revis, he's big, fast, he can play man coverage, and he returns punts, he had two for TD's. Harris and Woodson are gwtting old and TT needs to draft competent backups for them. I think he has more upside than Hall. If TT took him at 16 I'd be happy.
                        Thanks Ted!

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                        • #42
                          Interesting - I'd never even thought about drafting a corner. I don't want to 'need' draft either, but I think GMs would eliminate positions they're comfortable with. I.E. TT looks at his first round pick with the idea 'best player that isn't a CB, DE or QB'.

                          That doesn't limit him that much. Lots of time to grab a good value on those positions in rounds 3-5.

                          Although I agree that RB and WR are needs, I wouldn't be upset if a Tackle was drafted in the first. Unless Colledge is slated to eventually move over?
                          --
                          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                          • #43
                            The Packers definitely need a corner on the first day, but I'm not sold on Revis...

                            From what I've read on him, he has a very choppy back pedal, and tends to slide and shuffle... guys that do that tend to be tight in the hips, and will struggle to turn and run in the pros.

                            They could get away with in college, but pro receivers eat the cushion up much quicker, so being able to flip your hips, turn, and run is critical.

                            There are some intriguing guys that can be had in the 2nd and 3rd round: Marcus McCauley, Eric Wright, Michael Coe, et al...

                            I think there is some decent depth there... Would rather have McCauley in the 2nd than Revis in the 1st.
                            wist

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                            • #44
                              If this trade go down. It could turn into M.Tunner for 27th pick, R. Moss with 1 of the 3rd rd picks. And Pack could have 2 2nd rd picks and a 3rd rd pick with filling 2 of there biggest needs.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Guiness
                                Interesting - I'd never even thought about drafting a corner. I don't want to 'need' draft either, but I think GMs would eliminate positions they're comfortable with. I.E. TT looks at his first round pick with the idea 'best player that isn't a CB, DE or QB'.

                                That doesn't limit him that much. Lots of time to grab a good value on those positions in rounds 3-5.

                                Although I agree that RB and WR are needs, I wouldn't be upset if a Tackle was drafted in the first. Unless Colledge is slated to eventually move over?
                                I think the whole board is open... You can justify a pick at just about any position.

                                QB - Rodgers can't play... even if they won't admit it.
                                RB - They don't have an NFL calibur starter on the roster.
                                WR - K-Rob on the field would be great, but they definitely need more weapons.
                                TE - Franks runs like he has cement shoes on... Lee's hands are unreliable.
                                OT - Clifton isn't getting any younger, and his knees are bad.
                                OL (interior) - This and LB are about the only positions I would exclude from consideration in the 1st two rounds.
                                DE - If a difference maker fell.
                                DT - Ditto.
                                LB - 1st round pick on a 2 down player isn't a wise use of a 1st round pick.
                                S - I think Underwood is the answerl; but, if they had Nelson rated high enough, and he started right away, it would be a justifiable pick.
                                CB - Woodson and Harris are both over 30; Dendy was the nickel back; Blackmon will be back; and, Walker is penciled in as the new nickel, but they need to stock the position.

                                Like I said, I think you can justify just about any position except LB and interior OL.
                                wist

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