let get darius walker RB from notre dame, troy smith too
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Well you can always work the phones and try to trade down some more. Or maybe were past the point where you can trade down.Originally posted by Lurker64Thompson's probably fairly confident in the state of his board right now, and since there's about 30 minutes until he drafts it's probably safe. But you're right, it's not something a disorganized GM could probably pull off.
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He could have saved his reputation here big time with Packer's fans by stating if Moss wanted to renegotiate or not, or if the offer was out there or if they skunked us by two picks in the fourth."When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee
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Jax....
Uche Nwaneri
OG | (6'3", 325, 5.37) | PURDUE
Scouts Grade: 42
Flags: (C: CHARACTER) Problems on and off the field
Strengths: Plays with a mean streak, has above-average upper body strength and flashes the ability to knock defenders back. Though footwork is inconsistent, moves fairly well, can get around the center when asked to trap and is big enough to engulf linebackers. Shows good body control in space, has adequate range and can get into position at the second level. Shows good awareness, keeps head on a swivel and can pick up line stunts as well as blitzes. Has adequate initial burst and gets into pass set quickly. Has adequate size and can hold ground against bull rushers though can get better knee bend in pass set.
Weaknesses: While works to the whistle on every snap, plays with a narrow base, doesn't always locks onto the defender's frame and has some problems sustaining blocks. Plays too high, lacks elite lower body strength and should have problems driving two-gap defensive tackles off the ball. Ducks head too much, lacks ideal balance and spends too much time on the ground. Footwork in pass protection is somewhat inconsistent and is vulnerable to effective double moves. Broke the jaw of teammate during an off-season workout in 2005, Purdue suspended him for the 2005 fall semester, unsuccessfully sued the university and there is some concern about ability to control emotions.
Overall: Nwaneri arrived at Purdue in 2002 as a defensive tackle and did not appear in any games. In 2003, he saw limited action as a backup in just three games. Nwaneri then started all 12 contests at left guard in 2004. He was suspended by the University and did not play in 2005 after getting in a fight with a teammate and breaking his jaw during an offseason workout. He enrolled at Ivy Tech Community College (Ind.) for the fall semester but returned to Purdue in January of 2006 regaining his scholarship. Nwaneri then started all 14 games during the 2006 season, once again playing left guard.
Nwaneri isn't dominant in any one area and his technique needs polishing. However, if he continues to mature and can keep his emotions in check, Nwaneri could become a Day 2 steal. He has the size, athletic ability and tenacity to develop into an excellent backup but he's going to slip to the last few rounds due to his character issues.
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He would save his reputation here, but it would likely complicate further negotiations with other teams or players. It's safer to just not say anything. Some fans will be upset no matter what you do.Originally posted by green_bowl_packerHe could have saved his reputation here big time with Packer's fans by stating if Moss wanted to renegotiate or not, or if the offer was out there or if they skunked us by two picks in the fourth.</delurk>
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Jax again
Josh Gattis
S | (6'1", 206, 4.51) | WAKE FOREST
Scouts Grade: 72
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Strengths: Possesses good size and impressive speed for his size. Has adequate initial quickness, takes the shortest path to the ball and flashes the ability to make plays in the backfield. Plays with a good motor and takes good pursuit angles. Shows adequate range when dropping into zone coverage. Is tall, shows good body control and flashes the ability to catch the ball at its highest point. Is capable of developing quality short-area man-to-man cover skills. Has good ball skills and is a playmaker. He is intelligent and digests new schemes quickly.
Weaknesses: Doesn't always extend arms once in position and takes too long to shed blocks. Doesn't use hands to protect legs and is vulnerable to cut blocks. Can be overaggressive and plays the man before the ball at times. Is smart but lacks ideal instincts and lacks the second gear to recover once caught out of position. Doesn't always wrap up upon contact, fails to break down at times and misses too many open field tackles.
Overall: Gattis was redshirted in 2002. He saw action in all 12 games as a reserve defensive back and on special teams in 2003, made 34 total tackles, and forced two fumbles. In 2004, Gattis started all 11 games at free safety and recorded 71 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, one sack, two interceptions, four pass breakups, three fumble recoveries, and two forced fumbles. He started nine of 11 games in 2005 after being held out of the starting lineup for the first two games due to a preseason concussion. Gattis finished the season with 72 total tackles, five interceptions (two touchdowns), seven pass breakups, one fumble recovery, and one forced fumble. In 2006 he appeared in all 14 games, with 13 starts (did not start vs. Florida St. due to a sprained ankle), and registered 82 total tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, eight pass breakups, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery, and five interceptions, garnering first team All-ACC honors.
Gattis possesses an impressive blend of size and speed, and he continued to make noticeable strides as a football player during his senior season. However, he comes up short in terms of explosiveness and consistency in run support and he also lacks ideal fluidity in deep-middle coverage. Gattis will need to make it on special team in order to buy time for improving his safety skills in the NFL. Regardless, he projects as mid-round pick.
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Bengals....
Jeff Rowe
QB | (6'5", 226, 4.91) | NEVADA
Scouts Grade: 39 Selected by: Cincinnati Bengals
Round: 5
Pick (Overall): 14(151)
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Strengths: Possesses prototypical height and adequate bulk. Is tall enough to scan the field from within the pocket. Has adequate arm strength. At his best throwing short-to-intermediate routes. Shows good touch underneath and puts adequate zip on deep out routes. Knows how to lead his receivers and shows good timing. Throws accurately on the run and has good experience in that regard. Possesses quick feet and can buy second chances within the pocket. He is a tough, aggressive runner that knows where the first down marker is when he takes off.
Weaknesses: Lacks ideal arm strength as a downfield passer. His deep ball has a tendency to sail. He comes from a passer-friendly offensive scheme and is not forced to make a lot of NFL-style progression reads. He does not make many vertical throws, either. Level of competition is mediocre at the collegiate level. Doesn't always make sound decisions under pressure and needs to do a better job of taking what the defense gives him at times. Can try to make too much happen and is inconsistent. Sustained a season-ending separated shoulder injury resulting in him taking a medical red-shirt during in 2003. Has been mostly healthy since, so durability is only a minor concern.
Overall: Rowe served as Nevada's backup during his true freshman season in 2002, saw action in six games, and completed 17 of 26 attempts for 138 yards and one touchdown. Was penciled in as Nevada's starter for 2003 and played in three games, throwing for 259 yards, one touchdown, and three interceptions, while completing 22 of 47 attempts prior to sustaining a season-ending separated right (throwing) shoulder. He received a medical redshirt that year before returning for his redshirt sophomore season in 2004, when he started all 12 games and threw for 2,633 yards, 15 touchdowns and 12 interceptions with a 58-percent completion percentage. Rowe again started every game in 2005 (11), when he completed 62-percent of his attempts for 2,925 yards, 21 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. In 2006, Rowe started all 12 of 13 games he played (missed San Jose State game due to injury) and completed 64.7-percent of his passes for 1,907 yards, 17 touchdowns, and eight interceptions. During his career, Rowe has also rushed for 560 net yards and 13 touchdowns.
Rowe is a developmental prospect with ideal size. He is a confident leader and an accurate short-to-intermediate passer. However, Rowe comes from a passer-friendly "Pistol" offensive scheme that did not force him to make a lot of progression reads or downfield throws. He possesses just adequate arm strength and mobility. In our opinion, Rowe has value in the fourth-or-fifth round as a developmental quarterback prospect for teams that operate in a West Coast offensive scheme.
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