Official 2007 Live Draft Thread

[CyclonePackFan]

Negatives: Has a slight frame with a small bubble, smooth skin, marginal chest thickness and little room for additional growth … Capable of retaining plays, but needs several reps to do so … Lacks the bulk to face up to defenders when blocking in-line, as he will generally be pushed back or run over … Needs to get a clean release off the line, as his lack of bulk and power can see him get rerouted by the more physical cornerbacks … Can get in and out of his break point, but then starts to coast too often, which lets the defensive back recover … Can outrun most defenders, but once the opponent latches on to him, the battle is over.

WHAT THE F!!

Men don't have smooth skin, Greg. Didn't you know that?

[Bretsky]

He seems to let things fall to him nicely and trade down if his guys are not there; but he chooses not to anticipate, make a bold move, and/or trade up when players that can really help him fall.

Either that, or his board looks nothing like yours.

If you read the Packer beat writers article, they noted that GB had those guys very highly rated but chose not to trade up. It was in the chat and it's not beyond them to actually interview with Packer Personnell people with more inside information than we have

[mraynrand]

Negatives: Has a slight frame with a small bubble, smooth skin

Aww, Baby, that would not be a negative for your Onion NFL analyst, Smoove B. I would love to have the smooth skin so I could freak with my baby doggie style.

[RashanGary]

What the hell is going to happen? Is he going to get a rug burn easier than the next guy? Is he going to turn men on in the locker room?

What exactly does smooth skin have to do with anything?

[Rastak]

What the hell is going to happen? Is he going to get a rug burn easier than the next guy? Is he going to turn men on in the locker room?

What exactly does smooth skin have to do with anything?

Maybe it's a gay publication doing the reviews......maybe it allows him to slip out of tackles easier.....either way, good catch.

[Tarlam!]

Clowney interview:

"I am a football player that also ran track. Track helped me stay in shape"

On best attribute: "My best attribute is my speed. I ran 4.36 with a bad hamstring. My hands could be better, but that might be true of all WR's"

On his ability/ hands: "I am very confident in my abilities. Whatever coach needs, I will do, WR, ST anything!"

On Rouse: "Rouse is a funny guy, happy-go-jolly, like me. As an athlete, he's a head banger! When he hits you, he makes sure you know it was him"

On the massacre: "I had friends in those classes, it was tough. It's tough for the program, it all could of been prevented. Nobody I knew was killed, but one of my friends was running late for class and couldn't get in cause the doors were chained."

On draft position "I was told I'd be a first day pick. 3rd round, maybe even sneak into the the 2nd. It was tough watching all these names getting called, names i never even heard of!"

On being upset: "I get to go to GB, with a HOF QB and show what I can do. I am not upset"

[green_bowl_packer]

This is the exact reason Edward James Olmos could hack it in the NFL.

[Bretsky]

Negatives: Has a slight frame with a small bubble, smooth skin, marginal chest thickness and little room for additional growth … Capable of retaining plays, but needs several reps to do so … Lacks the bulk to face up to defenders when blocking in-line, as he will generally be pushed back or run over … Needs to get a clean release off the line, as his lack of bulk and power can see him get rerouted by the more physical cornerbacks … Can get in and out of his break point, but then starts to coast too often, which lets the defensive back recover … Can outrun most defenders, but once the opponent latches on to him, the battle is over.

WHAT THE F!!

LMAO; I haven't seen one of those in a while

[FritzDontBlitz]

What the hell is going to happen? Is he going to get a rug burn easier than the next guy? Is he going to turn men on in the locker room?

What exactly does smooth skin have to do with anything?

maybe having smooth skin helps the criticism slide off easier?

[Rastak]

Wow, Ravens take Troy Smith.....




Troy Smith
QB | (6'0", 225, 4.62) | OHIO STATE

Scouts Grade: 70

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position(C: CHARACTER) Problems on and off the field
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Strengths: Possesses a thick and sturdy build. Is athletic and strong. Shows good body control and balance. Maintains very good endurance and stamina. He has made huge strides as a passer. He has shortened up his delivery and has improved his overall mechanics. He displays very good arm strength and can drive the ball down the field. His field vision continues to improve with experience. He has undergone a complete transformation in terms of his patience within the pocket. He will make his progression reads and trust the protection around him. He is showing better timing and touch as a passer. Shows good touch on underneath routes. Makes quick decisions and does a good job of avoiding sacks. He is still a dual-threat quarterback prospect with the speed and elusiveness to burn defenses with his feet. Is a threat to run, showing excellent vision, initial quickness and burst for the position. He gets set quickly and shows quick feet in the pocket. Buys a lot of second-chance passing opportunities with his feet. Is an efficient passer when on the run and is extremely difficult to defend when he breaks contain. He is instinctive and competitive. Shows natural leadership skills and is the type of player that teammates trust in the clutch. He had several character issues early on in his career but he reportedly has matured tremendously.

Weaknesses: Possesses marginal height. Will have trouble finding passing windows from within the pocket and he has too many passes batted down. He has a tendency to get sloppy with his mechanics. Occasionally will throw from his back foot and also will revert to windmill delivery when he gets lazy. He will occasionally take too long to make his progression reads and will be late on some throws, as a result. Character is still a significant concern. He was suspended from the Alamo Bowl in 2004 after accepting money from a booster. He also was charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct (with Santonio Holmes) after an on-campus fight broke out involving five women in a parking lot. He was later found guilty of the charge. He missed the Miami (Ohio) game and did not start vs. Texas in 2005 as a result of an earlier suspension.

Overall: Smith was the last recruit signed by Ohio State in the winter of 2002 and was redshirted. In 2003 as a redshirt freshman, he saw action in 11 games as a return specialist and slash-back. He began the 2004 season as the backup to Justin Zwick but started the seventh game after Zwick was injured the previous week. Smith started five games that season, passing for a total of 891 yards, eight touchdowns, and three interceptions (all against Purdue), while also rushing for 339 yards on 82 attempts with two touchdowns. Smith was suspended for two games (finale in 2004 and opener in 2005) as a result of accepting illegal benefits from a booster. He was also convicted of misdemeanor disorderly conduct, along with teammate Santonio Holmes, stemming from a fight in a campus parking lot. In 11 games during the 2005 season, Smith completed 63-percent of his passes for 2,282 yards, 16 touchdowns, and four interceptions. He also carried the ball 136 times for 611 net yards and 11 touchdowns that season. Smith then accumulated numerous honors in 2006, including the Heisman trophy, after completing 65.3-percent of his passes for 2,542, 30 touchdowns, and just six interceptions while also rushing for 204 yards and one more score.
Few prospects in the 2007 NFL draft class improved their stock as much as Smith did during his senior season. Smith has refined his passing skills and improved his overall decision making as a quarterback. He is still capable of beating defenses with his feet, but Smith has proven to be a much more patient passer this season. His character issues and marginal height still serve as red flags. He also continues to be too erratic as a pocket passer. However, in our opinion, Smith's strong arm, poise, athleticism and competitiveness make him worth the risk late on Day 1.



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[RashanGary]

James Campen really liked that OLman.

This kid is a little smallish but they said he could easily get up to 315 without even noticing it.

The nice thing is that we're drafting him 2 years before we really need him so that when one of our Tackles leaves we'll acctually have an NFL ready replacement and we won't have to spend 50 million dollars to move on.

Who would have thought that drafting for BPA could ever pay off. I mean, it makes no sense right?

[BooHoo]

smooth skin = maybe it takes him a shorter time to get into his uniform so he doesn't have to show up at the stadium as early as other players.

[Rastak]

I think the Vikings will be on the clock next due to the Broncos trade....I like Kenny Scott or Brandon Siler......

[TennesseePackerBacker]

If he lasts I bet we grab David Irons in one of the 3 picks, also one of them gets traded

[Scott Campbell]

Late day 1? I didn't think anyone had him rated that high.