Official 2007 Live Draft Thread

[Bretsky]

I thought the LB was also a FB, no?

No, he was not; Green Bay said they might convert him to be one

[RashanGary]

On the FB thing,

I see. I was sort of in and out at the end there.

[retailguy]

The end of max protect will come with the growth of the 3 young, promising lineman and IMO will be the biggest difference in this years offense vs last years.

Also, we have another OT who we have a chance at grooming ot replace one of the aging ones. Depth is a good thing; it prevents you from crippling yourself in the UFA market.

What week do you see that coming in? Our OL doesn't match up very well against most of the teams we will face before the bye week.

By then, their confidence as a unit could be shot.

Don't you think if you were Jim Johnson, you'd have something pretty special cooked up for week 1?

How about week 3 against San Diego? How do you think we stack up there?

How about Minny, Chicago, and Washington? Looks like pretty good D's with some star players who should be able to penetrate the OL without Max Protect...

The only game I see with potential is the Giants and if Strahan is on, there goes the FB.

[RashanGary]

Interesting take RG, it will certainly be a challenge.

I have high expectations for those guys. We'll find out early what they are made of.

[RashanGary]

On the bright side, they get to line up against Kamp, Williams, Jenkins, PIckett, Harrell, KGB and company every day. Let's hope they worked hard to get that second year power and that they improve on their technique.

It's certainly not a sure thing fix but I don't think you can count on them failing either.

There is a lot of wait and see. Thompson has fait in his young guys. He seems to count a lot on hsi guys being the core of this team.

[retailguy]

Interesting take RG, it will certainly be a challenge.

I have high expectations for those guys. We'll find out early what they are made of.

So, if I'm right, then what's the back-up plan? It damn well better be max protect, or Favre will get killed and that brand spanking new RB will be in the hospital with multiple broken bones.

Now you see why I was so upset about "an old aging" Ahman Green moving to Houston?

He knew how to run behind this line. This line needs more time. A LOT more time. Green could've given that to them. Not so sure that these backs will be able to buy them the time they need. The 3rd WR would've helped here also...

But, you're right, we'll see early. If we don't see enough improvement, it could signal a very long year.

[Joemailman]

If the line struggles, we may be better off with Jackson than we were with Green. It looks to me like Jackson is a more elusive runner than Green. He doesn't have the breakaway speed of Green, but he will make more people miss. Really though, if the OL struggles, the running game will suffer no matter who is running the ball.

[retailguy]

If the line struggles, we may be better off with Jackson than we were with Green. It looks to me like Jackson is a more elusive runner than Green. He doesn't have the breakaway speed of Green, but he will make more people miss. Really though, if the OL struggles, the running game will suffer no matter who is running the ball.

Joe, you think a ROOKIE nfl running back is going to fully understand how to run behind a bad NFL line? Don't you think that a savvy veteran, who knows the NFL can run behind the line better than a rookie, even a very promising one?

Just don't agree there, but do agree that running behind the line will suffer... but, Green proved he could be a 1,000 yard back behind that very line...

what has Jackson proved?

[Partial]

I will give TT credit for this:

He was smart enough to recognize the draft wasn't exceptionally deep and he would be better suited to draft people who love football and will be able to contribute on special teams for a couple years rather than planning on them as simply future depth.

Otherwise I cannot understand why he'd draft an ILB this year, let alone two.

[retailguy]

I will give TT credit for this:

He was smart enough to recognize the draft wasn't exceptionally deep and he would be better suited to draft people who love football and will be able to contribute on special teams for a couple years rather than planning on them as simply future depth.

Otherwise I cannot understand why he'd draft an ILB this year, let alone two.

Shouldn't he have figured this out in February and plugged a few holes in Free Agency?

[Partial]

I will give TT credit for this:

He was smart enough to recognize the draft wasn't exceptionally deep and he would be better suited to draft people who love football and will be able to contribute on special teams for a couple years rather than planning on them as simply future depth.

Otherwise I cannot understand why he'd draft an ILB this year, let alone two.

Shouldn't he have figured this out in February and plugged a few holes in Free Agency?

He probably should have added a tight end. That Miami one would make our offense look a lot better right now. He was at least tall and fast.

[Partial]

What's Herman Moore doing these days? I say bring him in for a try-out.

[Scott Campbell]

Referring to Jones on draft day. I wonder if Champ Bailey thinks he's big enough.

Yeah, that's small in comparison with what we need. We don't need another 6'1" WR.

Driver 6'0" 190
Francis 6'1" 193
Jennings 5' 11" 197
Ferguson 6'1" 210

And this guy is big how?

[RashanGary]

Looking back, Harrell has underperformed by quite a bit but Jones played better than we ever expected.


Retailguy's pass protect doom and gloom didn't exactly materialize. It's one thing to state opinions, and quite another to act like RG and go cliff jumping before the season even starts.

[Carolina_Packer]

Looking back, Harrell has underperformed by quite a bit but Jones played better than we ever expected.


Retailguy's pass protect doom and gloom didn't exactly materialize. It's one thing to state opinions, and quite another to act like RG and go cliff jumping before the season even starts.

At least he and several others have come around and are enjoying the season. I don't think anyone, even TT, think that they are a finished product by any means, so you build in chunks and when you can, but building is not just adding players, but making the ones you have better by their development and this coaching staff and the mix of players seems to be a good match for that.

There are others, as you know, JH, who have not come around this year, and probably never will, because they don't care for TT and will never let themselves admit that he deserves much credit. Who cares about credit when you are winning? It's a worthless exercise. The front office and coaching staff is working together as much as the coaching staff and the players are and it's clicking.

Now we just need to beat Carolina!