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  • Originally posted by pbmax
    Packer trade:

    To Jets: 47 + 235= 430+1.9 = 432

    To Pack: 63+89+191= 276+145+16=437
    About equal then...not bad, but I don't like moving down so damn far.

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      Jacksonville


      Justin Durant
      OLB | (6'0", 230, 4.51) | HAMPTON

      Scouts Grade: 79 Selected by: Jacksonville Jaguars
      Round: 2
      Pick (Overall): 16(48)

      Strengths: Athletic prospect with very good top-end speed. Generally reads keys quickly, has good initial quickness and can make plays at the line of scrimmage. Has good range and can prevent backs from turning the corner. Works to the whistle, can slip blocks in space and makes plays all over the field. Generally wraps up upon contact and is a powerful tackler that flashes the ability to deliver the big hit. Gets good depth and can cover a lot of ground when asked to drop into zone coverage. Flashes the ability to change directions quickly, bursts out of cuts and shows above-average man-to-man cover skills. Though lacks ideal ball skills flashes the ability to make the big play in coverage and is a dangerous open field runner. Times blitzes well, takes the shortest path to the quarterback and closes fairly well. Has experience lining up on the inside and is somewhat versatile.

      Weaknesses: Plays too high, lacks ideal lower body strength and gets driven back at times. Is a bit undersized, can get engulfed and is vulnerable to wearing down in an every-down role, especially when lines up on the inside. Doesn't play with enough of a mean streak, doesn't use hands well and takes too long to shed blocks. Plays with a narrow base and can get knocked to the ground. Played at a small school and there is some concern about ability to make jump to the NFL.

      Overall: Durant appeared in eight contests as a true freshman in 2003, missed four games with a hand injury, and finished the year with 32 total tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, and one sack. In 2004, he began a streak of three consecutive MEAC Defensive Player of the Year campaigns when he started 11 games (sat out Savannah State matchup to rest for playoffs) and recorded 99 total tackles, 14 tackles for loss, five sacks, three interceptions (two returned for touchdowns), and one forced fumble. Durant then started all 12 games in 2005 amassing 124 total tackles, 15 tackles for loss, five sacks, two fumble recoveries, and one interception. He completed his collegiate career in 2006 with 98 total tackles, 13 tackles for loss, one sack, and one fumble recovery while playing in 11 of 12 games.
      Durant lacks ideal size and he needs polishing as a run defender. There are also some concerns about his learning curve coming from the DI-AA level. However, he possesses the burst, athletic ability and top-end speed to develop into an excellent backup who contributes on special teams in the NFL. Durant is an underrated prospect with late-Day 1 or early-Day 2 value.



      * Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

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      • Originally posted by pittstang5
        anyone know the value...did we make out or did we get screwed
        47 = 430
        235 = <2
        (432)

        63 = 276
        89 = 145
        191 = 15
        (436)


        Pretty equal value. My guess is TT picks up a RB at 63.

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        • Packers swap 2nds (68 overall) Packers get a 3rd and 6th Jets get 47 overall and a 7 round pick.

          So as we stand now we have 2nd (68 overall) 2 3rd round picks 4th round pick 5th round pick 2 6 round picks and our 7th.

          Not Bad!!

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          • We needed to replace the pick we send to the Raiders for Moss
            Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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            • 47 and 235 for 63rd, 89 or 189 and 191

              63 - 276
              89 - 145
              189 - 15.8

              47 - 430
              235 - 1

              436 for 431 is what my draft chart is saying. So it's pretty much a wash. Hopefully the 2nd and 3rd will get us someone like Michael Bush and the best safety available.

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              • based on what some other teams are doing draftwise, particularly the Jets, we could do worse than Ted Thompson.

                How would you like to have Marv Levy drafting for the Packers?

                Had Justin Harrell played all year, he would have been a top 10 pick.

                The way the Packers rotate Defensive linemen, they need as many good ones as they can get.

                What I most like about Harrell is "he never takes a play off". That's Aaron Kampman, A.J. Hawk style.

                After the first 7 or so players, there are no real standouts in this draft, but it has a lot of quality depth. Should be a lot of pleasant surprises to teams that have done their homework.
                more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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                • jets had a strong draft last year. maybe they like it every other year?

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                  • Originally posted by OS PA
                    47 and 235 for 63rd, 89 or 189 and 191

                    63 - 276
                    89 - 145
                    189 - 15.8

                    47 - 430
                    235 - 1

                    436 for 431 is what my draft chart is saying. So it's pretty much a wash. Hopefully the 2nd and 3rd will get us someone like Michael Bush and the best safety available.
                    Thats why those points dont mean much. TT might have just clinched a good draft with players he is gonna get.

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                    • Kenny Irons goes to Cincy.....


                      Kenny Irons
                      RB | (5'10", 203, 4.45) | AUBURN

                      Scouts Grade: 84


                      Round: 2




                      Strengths: A shifty downhill runner. He shows good initial quickness and burst through the hole. Is fast enough to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. Displays impressive body control and change-of-direction skills. His vision and patience as a runner are very good and should only improve with more experience. He reads blocks very well, particularly when working in I-formation behind a fullback. Shows a second gear in the open field and also make defenders miss with effective spin-move in space. Runs harder than "measurables" would indicate. Very competitive. Drives his legs after initial contact and will break lots of tackles with his lower-body strength. Shows a knack for falling forward at the end of runs. Has upside if his route-running skills improve with more experience. He gives a good effort and will get in position as a blocker in pass pro.

                      Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size. Possesses decent height and below average bulk. Needs to get bigger and stronger in order to carry a full load in the NFL. Runs a bit high at times. Does not show the size/strength to consistently run over defenders one-on-one in space. Durability is a concern, especially after nagging injuries limited his carries in 2006. Gives a good effort as a blocker but struggles to hold his ground and will get run over at times by bigger blitzing linebackers. Gets knocked back into the quarterback too frequently. His hands are inconsistent and he needs work in that department. Lacks ideal experience as a receiver and still needs work in terms of his recognition skills and overall route running.

                      Overall: Irons originally attended South Carolina and saw action as a true freshman in 2002 in nine games, making one start. He rushed for 201 yards on 47 carries (4.3 average) and caught four passes for 63 yards and one touchdown. In 2003, Irons played in only five games with one start. He tallied 51 yards on 19 carries and one touchdown on the ground with two catches for eight yards. Irons then transferred to Auburn and sat out the 2004 season. In 2005, Irons played in 12 games and made nine starts. He finished the year with team-high totals in carries (256), rushing yards (1,293), and rushing touchdowns (13) and averaged just over five yards per carry. He also caught 14 passes for 164 yards. Irons started 11 of 13 games in 2006, missing the Buffalo game with a sprained toe and ankle and the Tulane game with a gimpy ankle, and carried the ball 198 times for 893 yards (4.5 average) and four touchdowns and caught 10 passes for 78 yards.
                      Irons displays an impressive combination of power, vision and speed when healthy, and he proved capable of being Auburn's premier back in 2005. However, while he showed toughness in attempting to play through nagging injuries as a senior, his production tailed off considerably. Doubts regarding his ability to carry a fulltime load in the NFL have increased. As a result, Irons' stock has dipped and he likely will slip to the bottom-half of the second round.



                      * Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

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                      • Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                        Originally posted by OS PA
                        47 and 235 for 63rd, 89 or 189 and 191

                        63 - 276
                        89 - 145
                        189 - 15.8

                        47 - 430
                        235 - 1

                        436 for 431 is what my draft chart is saying. So it's pretty much a wash. Hopefully the 2nd and 3rd will get us someone like Michael Bush and the best safety available.
                        Thats why those points dont mean much. TT might have just clinched a good draft with players he is gonna get.
                        right on mad. draft points are for the bean counters. what really counts is t.t. picked up an extra player. its not WHERE you pick em its WHO you pick.
                        Think I'll roll another number for the road.
                        I HATE everything about the Minnesota Vikings

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                        • Not a bad trade.

                          Maybe he wants Pittman or Bush and he thinks they will be their with the jets old 2nd. Also now we get 4 first day players.
                          Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                          • Titans grab Henry.....



                            Chris Henry
                            RB | (5'11", 230, 4.4) | ARIZONA

                            Scouts Grade: 75


                            Strengths: A big, strong back with lots of mileage left on his legs. Shows good initial quickness and burst through the hole. He possesses above-average straight-line speed for his size and can bounce some runs outside once he hits the second-level. He shows the ability to push the pile when he runs with good leverage and lowers his shoulder. He will bounce off of would-be tacklers and displays an effective stiff-arm. While he needs polishing in the passing game, he does display soft hands and the ability to adjust to the poorly thrown ball.

                            Weaknesses: Lacks ideal starting experience; he was never the fulltime load-carrier in college. Not overly elusive and won't make many defenders miss in space. He is impatient; will run up the heels of his linemen and also looks to bounce plays outside too early. He is big and strong, but doesn't consistently run with good pad-level and takes too many shots to his body. He's not a great route runner and his pass-blocking technique is marginal. We also have concerns about his competitiveness after his decision to leave school rather than compete for the starting job at Arizona in 2007.

                            Overall: Henry appeared in two games in 2003 as a true freshman before injuring his leg and obtaining a medical redshirt. In 2004 he returned to appear in all 11 games (zero starts) and finished the season with 159 yards rushing and two touchdowns on 56 carries (2.8 average). Henry played in all 11 games again in 2005 (zero starts), rushing 34 times for 119 yards (3.5 average) and also contributed on special teams. Henry played in 11 of 12 games in 2006 (missed 9/16 vs. S.F.A for undisclosed reason), earned seven starts and finished with 165 carries for 581 yards (3.5 average) and seven touchdowns. Over the past three seasons he has caught 25 passes for 191 yards and one touchdown.
                            Henry's questionable decision to declare early for the draft was overshadowed by his stunning performance at the combine. The thickly-built running back blazed the fastest 40-yard dash time (4.40) at his position, while also impressing with his strength on the bench press (26 reps) and his explosiveness on the vertical jump (36"). While his inexperience is still glaring, Henry displays enough promising characteristics to warrant the gamble in the middle rounds of the 2007 draft.

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                            • Comedy

                              And the TT comedy show continues..........

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                              • WR Smith still there.... FB from Rutgers still there right?
                                My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!

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