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  • WOW! I thought this would be a good guy for the PAck. TT actually took a player that I like and know. Woo who!

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    • Nice pick, just sounds like he needs to be coached up on technique and hit the weight room. You can re-teach technique, you can't teach a guy to play hard to the whistle and play nasty.
      "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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      • Minny on the clock.
        "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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        • Originally posted by MJZiggy
          Originally posted by Tarlam!
          No winners.....
          At least I came close...
          He's listed as an O Tackle, not a guard......

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          • DE to Hawks....

            Baraka Atkins
            DE | (6'4", 271, 4.69) | MIAMI (FLA.)

            Scouts Grade: 66

            Flags: (M: MENTAL) Does not retain and learn the system


            Strengths: Versatile defensive lineman with experience at DE, DT and NT in a 4-3 scheme. Possesses very good agility for his size. He fires out of his stance with excellent quickness and leverage. Shows the initial burst to consistently penetrate inside. He is very quick and powerful in the short-area. He can penetrate, find the ball quickly and redirect seamlessly when he wants to. An explosive tackler with good power. He displays good power moves as a pass rusher. Does a nice job of standing the offensive lineman up with an initial power move, and then change directions once his opponent is off-balance. He has had some nicks throughout his career but for the most part he has been durable. Also has great experience at the highest level.

            Weaknesses: His motor runs hot and cold. He can get lazy on the field and will take too many plays off. Is undersized as a fulltime defensive tackle prospect. Lacks the bulk and base to hold up as an every-down player inside. Also lacks top-end speed and athleticism as an edge rusher. He is quick enough to penetrate along the interior but he lacks the first-step quickness and closing burst to generate consistent pressure at DE. Marginal score on the Wonderlic Test.

            Overall: Atkins received a redshirt in 2002. He returned as a redshirt freshman in 2003, played in all 13 games (12 starts), and collected 43 total tackles, 6.5 tackles for loss, five sacks, and three forced fumbles. Atkins started all 12 games in 2004 splitting time between defensive end and defensive tackle. For the year he made 33 total tackles, nine tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, and two forced fumbles (returning one for a touchdown). In 2005, Atkins played in all 12 games with 11 starts (did not start vs. Clemson; sprained knee) at defensive tackle and registered 26 total tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss, five sacks, and two forced fumbles. Atkins appeared in all 12 games in 2006 at defensive end and finished with 37 tackles, eight tackles for loss, four sacks, and two fumble recoveries.
            Atkins saw significant playing time both inside and outside during his collegiate career. He will never be an impact edge rusher and he lacks the size to stack up inside as a fulltime defensive tackle in the NFL. However, he could fit as a 3-4 defensive end or play a hybrid end/tackle role in a 4-3 scheme. Regardless, Atkins displays the physical tools to make an impact in the NFL. The trick is motivating him to play his best at all times. After getting benched for poor effort early on as a senior, Atkins got the message and became very productive during the second-half of the 2006 season. If he carries over that same type of motor to the next level he could enjoy a productive career. Unfortunately for him, it was too little too late. Atkins is too much of a risk-reward prospect for NFL teams to consider selecting prior to the third round of the 2007 draft.



            * Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

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            • Allen Barbre
              Height: 6-4
              Weight: 300
              Position: Offensive Tackle/Guard
              College: Missouri Southern State

              ANALYSIS

              Positives: Has a developing frame with room to add at least another 15 pounds of bulk with no loss in his impressive quickness … Has a thick upper body, with broad shoulders, thick calves, solid midsection, long arms, large hands, big bubble and natural strength … Comes out of his stance with outstanding explosion to shock a lethargic defender … Has the loose hips to change direction and plays … Generates good force behind his hand punch to deliver pop on contact … Hard worker who might need several extra reps to retain plays, but spends extra hours in the film room watching tapes and in the weight room improving his overall strength … Can get to the second level quickly to cut or wall off, but needs to break down better and play under control … When he gets his hands into an opponent, he has the raw power to pull, jerk, lock on and drag down … Rolls his hips well to put more force behind his blocks working in-line … Is quick to react to movement and does a good job of shuffling his feet to mirror … Takes the defensive lineman where he wants to go and uses that momentum to wash out his opponent (needs to stop waist bending, though) … Plays with a strong base and solid effort, showing good foot movement in his pass set … Does a better job landing when pulling or on screens, but needs to play with better control working in the second level … When he slides his feet in pass protection, he plays with a wide base, but must be more conscious of keeping his pads down (gets too high in his stance at times) … Showed much better hand placement in 2006, sustaining his blocks longer once he learned to keep his hands inside the frame … Can beat a defender off the edge with his explosive initial step … Generally takes good angles on the short pull and has the lateral mobility to work down the line … Does a nice job of communicating with his guard on double teams.

              Negatives: Has good field vision, but is just a marginal student and needs more than several reps to retain plays … Fires off the ball with good urgency, but will get out of control and start taking wild whiffs when he shoots his hands outside the frame … Can simply flatten opponents when he keeps his pads down, but he will get too tall in his stance and bend at the waist (has good knee bend, but doesn't do it consistently) … When he fails to open his hips properly, he will fall off some blocks in space … Needs to get better fits on the ground game (bad pad level), for despite his upper body power, he will revert to positioning and turning the defender rather than driving through … Must play with better control in the second level, as he fails to break down plays quickly … Has the natural slide agility, but will get pushed back by a strong bull rush when he gets too tall in his stance … When he over-sets with his hands, he struggles to recover (will also cross over with his feet at the Xs).

              Compares To: Joe Berger, Dallas Cowboys … Barbre is a developing talent with outstanding quickness and good strength. He has the balance and nimble feet to fire out on the pulls and traps and shows a punishing hand jolt to impede the pass rusher's forward progress. He seems to lack that split-second decision making process and will get fooled on stunts, blitzes and twists, making him more suited for guard than tackle. He could use some more bulk on his frame and must learn to play with better control. When he fails to locate the second-level defenders, he starts throwing his hands around wildly, looking for something to hit. He needs to break down open working in space and while he showed improvement with his hand placement, he is prone to getting them outside his frame too much. He must also play at a lower pad level and use his knee bend better. With some patient coaching, he could develop. It is obvious the athletic talent and quick feet are there. Now, he needs to work on the mental aspect of the game.
              INJURY REPORT

              None available.
              AGILITY TESTS

              Campus: 4.94 in the 40-yard dash … 360-pound bench press … 33 ½-inch arm length … 10 ¼-inch hands … Right-handed … 11/18 Wonderlic score.

              Combine: 4.88 in the 40-yard dash … 1.72 10-yard dash … 2.85 20-yard dash … 4.63 20-yard shuttle … 7.4 three-cone drill … 32-inch vertical jump … 8-foot-9 broad jump … Bench pressed 225 pounds 28 times.
              HIGH SCHOOL

              Attended East Newton (Granby, Mo.) High School, playing football for head coach Larry Bunn … Standout two-way performer at tackle for the Patriots … Helped his team finish 9-2 and reach the sectional round of the Class 2A state playoffs as a senior … Named to the Missouri Class II All-State team … Earned All-Big Eight Conference honorable mention in basketball.
              PERSONAL

              Criminal Justice major … Son of Debbie Gerfen and John Barbre … Born June 22, 1984 in Neosho, Missouri.

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              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Good pick. They need depth there, and I really liked this kid for our team while researching.

                Nice! Except for Jones, every one of our picks has been a guy that I liked better than projections.

                Wallbanger's OG Rankings:

                1. BEN GRUBBS
                2. JUSTIN BLALOCK
                3. ARRON SEARS
                4. ANDY ALLEMAN
                5. ALLEN BARBRE
                6. DAN SANTUCCI
                7. MANUEL RAMIREZ
                8. MARSHAL YANDA
                9. JOSH BEEKMAN
                10. JULIUS WILSON
                Actually a great pick - I now like Harrell, Barbre and I'm beginning to warm on Brandon Jackson. Jackson can shift directions/make people miss tackles with the best but is he durable?
                PackerRats Thompson D. Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2019,
                PackerRats Thompson D. Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2018,
                PackerRats Pick'Em 2016-17 Champ + Packers year Survival Football Champ 2017,
                Rats Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2013,
                Ratz Survival Football Champ 2012,
                PackerRats1 Yahoo Fantasy Football Champ 2006.

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                • Vikes traded down......

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                  • Minny trades down.
                    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                    • Good 4th round value... I like the pick.
                      wist

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                      • Originally posted by Rastak
                        Vikes traded down......
                        Details?

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                        • Next up for us - Tight End. Or something.

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                          • Originally posted by Tarlam!
                            Originally posted by Rastak
                            Vikes traded down......
                            Details?

                            Not sure.....

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                            • From NFL.com's Gil Brandt:

                              (ranking is overall OG's)
                              4. Allen Barbre, Missouri Southern State (6-4, 300, 4.88)
                              Barbre had a complete workout at the Combine, running his two 40s in 4.84 and 4.92. He also recorded a 32-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-9 long jump, 4.63 short shuttle, 7.40 three-cone drill and 28 bench presses. Barbre was an offensive and defensive lineman at a very small high school and also played basketball. He played as a true freshman at Missouri Southern State, starting six games, including five at left tackle. He went on to start 31 games over the next three years. Barbre is a very good athlete and a hard worker. He was a force in Division II and has a lot of upside. He is tough and will get after you. He worked out well at the Combine and is a name to remember when he is starting for some team in 2009.

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                              • I think MN traded for a player.

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