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  • #16
    If there was a true stud DT next year I'd have no problem with it. After that though, 4 really good ones is enough and I would stop.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by GregJennings
      If there was a true stud DT next year I'd have no problem with it. After that though, 4 really good ones is enough and I would stop.
      But, if Thompson is truly following BPA, he wouldn't/shouldn't.... Wait, A FLAW, in the theory!

      Course we proved that with Brady Quinn, didn't we?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by retailguy
        Originally posted by GregJennings
        If there was a true stud DT next year I'd have no problem with it. After that though, 4 really good ones is enough and I would stop.
        But, if Thompson is truly following BPA, he wouldn't/shouldn't.... Wait, A FLAW, in the theory!

        Course we proved that with Brady Quinn, didn't we?
        Quinn was probably the BPA on TT's board, but need played into it at that spot. If there was somebody that was the equivalent of Quinn, but played any other position, besides QB, that player would of been the pick.
        "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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        • #19
          Originally posted by retailguy
          Originally posted by GregJennings
          If there was a true stud DT next year I'd have no problem with it. After that though, 4 really good ones is enough and I would stop.
          But, if Thompson is truly following BPA, he wouldn't/shouldn't.... Wait, A FLAW, in the theory!

          Course we proved that with Brady Quinn, didn't we?
          DT was arguably their strongest and deepest position... and TT ignores the numerous holes everywhere else on the roster and bolsters the already strongest position on the team.

          A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link... the Packers have a lot of weak links, and TT did next to nothing to strengthen them.
          wist

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wist43
            DT was arguably their strongest and deepest position... and TT ignores the numerous holes everywhere else on the roster and bolsters the already strongest position on the team.

            A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link... the Packers have a lot of weak links, and TT did next to nothing to strengthen them.
            Our run defense doesn't support this theory, however, it was CLEARLY less of a need than several other positions, on that, I agree with you.

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            • #21
              I'm curious Wist, do you expect the Packers to make a run at the SB?

              If so then I can understand your angst. If not then I don't know what you're all bent out of shape about. You said last season that this team was 3 years away. Who really cares about a temporary hole right now.

              Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will a SB team be constructed in GB from 4-12 in two off seasons.

              We'll take some knocks because of some of our holes but eventually the draft will bring us an answer. If not, there are other avenues that can be used when the time is right.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                As it turned out Denver wanted to move up and they did right behind us; we could have had Meachem with their pick along with an extra high pick....which was my vision if it worked.
                Denver wanted to move up to draft the guy we took. Kind of ruins any theory that we could have traded down and still got our guy--not that you are making that theory. What if Meachem was #30 on the Packers board and Harrell was #15? Are you saying you think your board is more accurate than their board?
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • #23
                  Denver moved up because of our pick and they were than afraid they woul;dn't be able to get Moss.
                  Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                  • #24
                    I forgot to mention thaT as Harv said, Shanny really liked Harrell.
                    Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GregJennings
                      I'm curious Wist, do you expect the Packers to make a run at the SB?

                      If so then I can understand your angst. If not then I don't know what you're all bent out of shape about. You said last season that this team was 3 years away. Who really cares about a temporary hole right now.

                      Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will a SB team be constructed in GB from 4-12 in two off seasons.

                      We'll take some knocks because of some of our holes but eventually the draft will bring us an answer. If not, there are other avenues that can be used when the time is right.

                      yes but hes saying that TT drafted somebody that we didnt persay need, when we could have drafted someone else that we did need. I go back and forth about this because like i said before, greg, it will be fun watching the LBing core but i really wish that TT hadnt traded back so effing far in the 2nd. i would have rather traded back a lil or stayed there and takin ethier Smith, rice, or jarrett. And then takin ethier jackson or pittman with our 3rd, all though idk how we would get rouse then

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by b bulldog
                        I forgot to mention thaT as Harv said, Shanny really liked Harrell.
                        great thats an almost sure bust

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                        • #27
                          My only point was that TT wasn't alone in his thinking
                          Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by b bulldog
                            My only point was that TT wasn't alone in his thinking
                            i agree with you on that one, there were about 5 teams that i had heard liked him

                            texans
                            Broncos
                            Chiefs
                            Colts
                            and there was a few more

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Originally posted by Bretsky
                              As it turned out Denver wanted to move up and they did right behind us; we could have had Meachem with their pick along with an extra high pick....which was my vision if it worked.
                              Denver wanted to move up to draft the guy we took. Kind of ruins any theory that we could have traded down and still got our guy--not that you are making that theory. What if Meachem was #30 on the Packers board and Harrell was #15? Are you saying you think your board is more accurate than their board?

                              Unless I misheard Shannahan I do not think that is completely accurate.

                              Shannahan stated he wanted one of three DL. When the second one came off the board he knew he had to go up after Green Bay picked. So our guy was one of three he wanted. The other must have went a bit before. I don't think he stated that he liked either one better.

                              But you are right; I still feel we'd have been much better off with Meachem and a 2nd than the guy we have.
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #30
                                I just can't wait to see the defense. I'm a defense guy. As I've watched football over the years I've slowly moved toward defense as the #1 priority.

                                I know you guys wanted a WR but I think Driver and Jennings can do a good job and the #3, 4 and 5 of Krob, Jones and Hollidy/Martin don't bother me at all. Nobody has 5 starters. We have 2 starters and some guys who can play behind them. If a top notch player was there I would have been extatic but as it stands Thompson felt the DT was the most impactfull football player on the board.

                                DT's can be difference makers. Saving 7 points is just as good as scoring 7.

                                I think RG has the best arguement against the Packers right now. He believes it's the Oline and I completely agree. That is the unit taht will make or break the offense right now.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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