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isnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.
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I believe Green Bay was near the top of the list in dropped passes last year, so drafting a guy that every scouting report says has great hands is not a problem with me.Originally posted by SD GB fanisnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.
I recall, last year, quite a few people getting all bent out of shape about drafting Jennings. Said he was TOO SLOW, SMALL SCHOOL, played slow etc. etc. If he hadn't had a high ankle sprain who knows ?
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It was about 65/35 that Jennings would be nothing. The main criticism was that he was too small. I remember only one person that was complaining about him being from a small school.Originally posted by SparkeyI believe Green Bay was near the top of the list in dropped passes last year, so drafting a guy that every scouting report says has great hands is not a problem with me.Originally posted by SD GB fanisnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.
I recall, last year, quite a few people getting all bent out of shape about drafting Jennings. Said he was TOO SLOW, SMALL SCHOOL, played slow etc. etc. If he hadn't had a high ankle sprain who knows ?"I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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We were numero uno on that list.Originally posted by SparkeyI believe Green Bay was near the top of the list in dropped passes last year, so drafting a guy that every scouting report says has great hands is not a problem with me.
"I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Greg Jennings
WR | (5'11", 197, 4.46) | WESTERN MICHIGAN
Scouts Grade: 80
Strengths: He has dominated his level of play as a go-to-receiver and punt return specialist. He is quicker than fast but also possesses good top-end speed. Shows a little bit of a second gear when he hits daylight. He shows excellent body control, balance and COD skills. Is a sharp route runner who gets in and out of his breaks very quickly. Knows how to separate and also has a very good feel for finding soft spots in zone. He's a threat after the catch. Shows some "wiggle" in space and will make defenders miss. Also has very good vision as a runner and will make the right cut at the right time.
Weaknesses: Lack of ideal NFL "measurables" will cost him on draft day. He has below-average height and bulk. He lacks ideal strength. He doesn't show the leaping ability or size to make many plays vertically in the passing game at the NFL level. He will have more trouble getting off the LOS and will get pushed around by bigger DB's. He also must prove that he has the speed and elusiveness to transfer his punt return production to the NFL.
Overall: Jennings is a three-year starter who also contributed as a true freshman at Western Michigan in 2002 but missed four games that season with a broken ankle. In three seasons prior to his senior year in 2005, Jennings notched 2,280 career receiving yards and 25 touchdowns. As a junior in 2004, Jennings finished with 74 receptions for 1,092 yards and 11 TDs. Jennings also averaged an impressive 14.8 yards per punt return, including two scores. Jennings was one of the most productive wide receivers in the nation as a senior in 2005 when he finished with 1,259 yards and 14 TDs on 98 receptions. Jennings doesn't fit the ideal mold for an NFL receiver and he did not play against top DI-A competition -- for the most part -- while playing at Western Michigan. However, Jennings has enough size, speed and quickness to develop into a No. 2 or No. 3 receiver in the NFL. He has exceptional instincts as a receiver and he is a tough competitor. Helping to ease doubts about his ability to play at the next level was Jennings' 16-catch performance versus Virginia as a senior in 2005. Jennings also is a fine special team's player who has shown a lot of upside as a punt return specialist. After a strong showing in the post-season (E-W Shrine game and combine), Jennings is fast-rising and could come off the 2006 draft board as early as the third round.
* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.
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Chad Jackson
WR | (6'0", 213, 4.34) | FLORIDA
Scouts Grade: 96
Strengths: He possesses good size and what looks to be very good top-end speed on film. He shows the initial burst and acceleration to get over the top of defenders as a vertical receiver. He has long arms and big hands. Will flash the ability to make the acrobatic catch. Shows good burst after the catch and can be productive in that facet if given a crease to exploit. He is a flexible athlete and he has been durable to this point. He has big, soft hands. Shows the ability to pluck on the run and make the tough catch in traffic. He is physical and not afraid to go over the middle. Possesses size, strength and toughness to excel as a blocker in the NFL.
Weaknesses: Must improve his overall route-running skills. He has a tendency to round off his routes. Needs to learn to drop his weight in order to get in and out of his breaks without losing so much time in transition. His effort can be spotty and he will get frustrated if he doesn't get involved early in a game. He has a tendency to disappear from games at times. Still has room to improve in terms of his ability to read coverages and find soft spots in zone. He has big, soft hands, but he will occasionally drop the "catchable" ball due to concentration lapses. Needs to give more consistent effort and improve his technique as a stalk-blocker.
Overall: Jackson saw time on special teams in 13 games and at wide receiver in four games during his true freshman season in 2003. He emerged as a fulltime starter during his final two seasons at Florida (2004-'05), when he combined for 1,548 yards and 15 touchdowns on 117 receptions. Jackson experienced a bit of a rollercoaster season as a junior, which led to immediate questions regarding his decision to leave school early. While he certainly could have finished with a better season had he returned as a senior, Jackson should benefit from coming out early to be part of what shapes up as a comparatively weak wide receiver class in 2006. With an outstanding combination of size, speed, athletic ability and hand-eye coordination, Jackson is an underrated prospect with a great deal of NFL upside. He could slip due to his inconsistent collegiate career, but we think Jackson is a first-round caliber wide receiver prospect that will flourish in the NFL.
* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.
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Starters are Driver and Jennings.
K-Rob and Fergy are on thin ice...my guess is Fergy gets cut and Bodiford returns kicks until K-Rob rejoins the team, then they cut Bodiford (unless he excels) and have one of the RB's return kicks. Ick.
Martin is probably gone; I think they'll keep Holiday over him, but that will be an interesting camp battle.
Either Jones or Clowney stay, probably not both. I hope the WR corps won't be Driver and a bunch of rookies/NFL-E guys like last year.
BTW, am I the only one whose first thoughts of the news that TT drafted Jones was: "Oh no, he just drafted Cory Rodgers AGAIN!" ? Hopefully Jones will show something and stick with the team...cutting a #3 is rarely done.
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I think the biggest problem we have soemtiems is taht we look at heightl, weight and speed and make assumptions.
You cant' teach anyone to play a position. It's important that you're not a complete stiff but you don't need freakish athletic ability to be a stud in the NFL. Rice, Harrison, Steve Smith..All of these guys have glaring holes in their games yet they are ultra effective and true difference makers.
Anquan Bodlin, Colston, ect...
There is more to playing a position than height weight speed and that is one thing taht I really like about Thompson. He looks at how they play the game. I think many of us, me included at times, need to chill out and realize that we don't really know that much. Thompson said in his press conference today that one of his picks was known amongst scouts but wasn't noticed by the media. I took from that; that we cna't just trust these media experts. They don't know everything and Thompson was saying that.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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1. Driver
2. Jennings
3. Clowney
4. Martin
5. Jones
6. Robinson
7. Holliday
8. Bodiford
9. Ferguson
Lets not count Ferguson out. I think he atleast makes it into camp due to the fact that there are going to be a lot of question that need to be answered about the Packers wide receivers.
About Randy Moss, I was more than a little pissed at Ted Thompson and Andrew Brandt, but the bottom line is that once the Pats got into the Randy Moss bidding war and it came down to negotiating with Moss's wants the Packers were pretty much hung out to dry. At this point I really can't blame Moss, he wants to go to a winner, he wants his shot at the Super Bowl and the Patriots have added the pieces to get back there in 2007, the Packers have not.
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Exactly. If that's how the NFL worked Grady Jackson and Troy Williamson would be making the Pro Bowl year after year.Originally posted by GregJenningsI think the biggest problem we have soemtiems is taht we look at heightl, weight and speed and make assumptions."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Sounded like Moss told his people to only give NE the flexibility to re-negotiate his deal. That sucks, but I don't think Ted Thompson and Andrew Brandt were even given a chance to screw the deal up.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz(Snip)
About Randy Moss, I was more than a little pissed at Ted Thompson and Andrew Brandt, but the bottom line is that once the Pats got into the Randy Moss bidding war and it came down to negotiating with Moss's wants the Packers were pretty much hung out to dry. At this point I really can't blame Moss, he wants to go to a winner, he wants his shot at the Super Bowl and the Patriots have added the pieces to get back there in 2007, the Packers have not.
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