My thoughts on the draft

[SudsMcBucky]

I had him rated as my #5 at OG after my research. (With his height, I was projecting him at OG.)

That's exactly what I thought when I read about him. Sounds like a guard prospect more than a tackle.

[Sparkey]

Pretty solid take Partial.

I'll argue this though;

You don't really know what you have untill you line them up with NFL talent. If you take more picks, you can afford to shed 3 or 4 and still come away with 6 or 7 contributors and maybe 3 or 4 starters in each draft.

I don't like to say crapshoot because I believe good scouts make a big difference but I think there is a strong uncertainty drafting that is unavoidable and because of that; you really don't knwo untill you line them up. Like I said, there is skill to talent evaluation but I think you can win in the long run more often by getting more guys in to see how they play with your guys.

I agree its a crapshoot. Especially after the second round. I will say this though.

Jarrett was rated as a first rounder on his board. If it costs him a 2nd, third and fourth to get him (even if he loses draft board value on it), wouldn't it be better to take a shot on a guy you think could really turn out to be a great player rather than moving down and adding guys who you think less of? Depth is good and all, but you can pick up average players anytime anywhere. You've gotta take those shots at one of those receivers.

The problem with that is the Green Bay's depth is still not that good and it reflects in their special teams play. Look at the guys that TT drafted. Nearly all of them are considered above average or better special teamers.

Better ST play means being able to win the field position battle more often than not, which translates into wins.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The problem with that is the Green Bay's depth is still not that good and it reflects in their special teams play. Look at the guys that TT drafted. Nearly all of them are considered above average or better special teamers.

Better ST play means being able to win the field position battle more often than not, which translates into wins.

That's an interesting way to find the silver lining Sparkey. Good work.

[woodbuck27]

I agree that T.T. next year has to trade up and try to land a big player or just take quality players, not quantity...

O wait nevermind the packers will be #1 anyway... (joking... knocking on wood)...

No, I don't think he has to trade to the top. I am not saying that at all. I think it was Ted's responsibility to say OK, this draft is not deep and at about the start of the third round the talent is going to drop WAY OFF. That's when you throw the chart out, realizing that drafting one good, solid player in the 2nd is better than adding a 2nd and 3rd that are only adequate and linger around for a few years before getting replaced.

He should have recognized the teams glaring need for a big target. With the Moss trade obviously falling through by that point, he should have realized it may have taken a few picks out of their total amount, but that adding a player they rated highly on their board would have a bigger impact than adding two marginal players later on.

Man, Jarrett or Rice would make this draft look 10x better.

Partial:

You are bang on !!

[woodbuck27]

My thoughts on this draft:

I think one reason Thompson is being criticized for not addressing needs with this draft is because the perception most people have of the Packer needs are not the same as Thompson's. I think he really believes he has players on this team from the previous 2 drafts who are ready to assume a more significant role than they have thus far. I suspect the only 2007 draftees who he expects to fill a real significant role are Harrell and Jackson. The rest of the guys will be expected to fill an occasional role, and contribute to special teams. It won't be like last year where there were 4-5 rookies starting every game.

The real improvement on this team will come from guys like Poppinga, Underwood, Hawk, Colledge, Spitz, Jennings, and Collins, not Jones, Rouse, Clowney, etc.

I don't know about that. I'd say the people who are upset are primarily upset about the refusal to trade up in the second to get one of the two receivers. I am quite satisfied with the rest of the picks as my analysis should show. He could have had what I would consider a great draft had he added a red zone threat in the second.

Ted Thompson blew it in the first two rounds.

We suspected here that he wasn't all that impresssed with the depth in this draft. If that was 'in fact' the case?

Why given the dire need on OUR team for help on offence go DL at No.16 and trade down from No. 47 to No. 63 in the second for anothe 6th???

That makes no sense in a weak draft depth wise. Anyone who defends that is seriously 'enamoured' with Ted Thompson.

I don't give a DAM what TT's board was in the first round.

We didn't have to be stuck with an injury prone DT (our last area of need), when there were capable people available to help us in 2007 on the 'O'.

There can't be a Packer fan in the world that would have predicted that pick at 16.

Peter King on OUR first round pick:

'' PICK I LIKED THE LEAST: Justin Harrell, No. 16, by Green Bay. Receiver, Green Bay. You need a receiver. Or two. Hope there's one you like left in round two. Or Randy Moss.''

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nobody knows at this point which teams blew it or not. We all have a gut feeling, but to state it as fact is assinine. If Harrell turns into Kevin Williams, John Henderson, or Marcus Stroud, then Thompson will have been right in choosing him. If he's a bust, then he made the wrong choice. If he's solid, then we'll see how Rice, Meachem, and the others do to judge whether he screwed up or not. There likely will be at least one player drafted behind him who will do better, but let's get your pick in electronic form.

Who did you want Thompson to pick at #16 that was a possibility for him to take? Don't include trades--because nobody knows what he could have gotten or if that was even feasible.

Olsen? Bowe? Meachem? Rice? Jarrett? Quinn? No Bowe OR Meachem. Name one. Let's see whom everbody wanted.

I wanted Meachem, but I'm not going to state as fact that Harrell was the wrong choice at this point.

[Lurker64]

Why given the dire need on OUR team for help on offence go DL at No.16 and trade down from No. 47 to No. 63 in the second for anothe 6th???

Because you can make it to (and in fact win) the Superbowl with a mediocre offense and a top flight defense (Buccanneers, Ravens, Bears), and secondly because the guy that Thompson wanted to pick at his spot in the 2nd was either gone, or he expected him to be there at the end of the round.

Also, who said that Thompson thought the depth in this draft was weak? I've never heard anything like that out of Ted's mouth.

[wist43]

I like Barbre... gunner on kick coverage??? Maybe we can get him to stretch the field at WR???

[Bretsky]

I agree that T.T. next year has to trade up and try to land a big player or just take quality players, not quantity...

O wait nevermind the packers will be #1 anyway... (joking... knocking on wood)...

No, I don't think he has to trade to the top. I am not saying that at all. I think it was Ted's responsibility to say OK, this draft is not deep and at about the start of the third round the talent is going to drop WAY OFF. That's when you throw the chart out, realizing that drafting one good, solid player in the 2nd is better than adding a 2nd and 3rd that are only adequate and linger around for a few years before getting replaced.

He should have recognized the teams glaring need for a big target. With the Moss trade obviously falling through by that point, he should have realized it may have taken a few picks out of their total amount, but that adding a player they rated highly on their board would have a bigger impact than adding two marginal players later on.

Man, Jarrett or Rice would make this draft look 10x better.

Partial:

You are bang on !!

[Bretsky]

Nobody knows at this point which teams blew it or not. We all have a gut feeling, but to state it as fact is assinine. If Harrell turns into Kevin Williams, John Henderson, or Marcus Stroud, then Thompson will have been right in choosing him. If he's a bust, then he made the wrong choice. If he's solid, then we'll see how Rice, Meachem, and the others do to judge whether he screwed up or not. There likely will be at least one player drafted behind him who will do better, but let's get your pick in electronic form.

Who did you want Thompson to pick at #16 that was a possibility for him to take? Don't include trades--because nobody knows what he could have gotten or if that was even feasible.

Olsen? Bowe? Meachem? Rice? Jarrett? Quinn? No Bowe OR Meachem. Name one. Let's see whom everbody wanted.

I wanted Meachem, but I'm not going to state as fact that Harrell was the wrong choice at this point.

I want the Denver trade for exactly what Jacksonville received. They picked right behind us so IMO that is feasible. Then I'd take the best WR on the board, which was Meachem

[The Shadow]

I would have to wait and see how the picks pan out.
Sexy? Don't care a whit.
Just because a hyper-pomaded talking head (or a few of our hysterical brethen ALWAYS upset with Thompson)does not have a player on his personal 'expert' list is no reason to assume that player is a dud.
How in the world can you judge this draft before a single player has suited up in Green & Gold?

[3irty1]

The real improvement on this team will come from guys like Poppinga, Underwood, Hawk, Colledge, Spitz, Jennings, and Collins, not Jones, Rouse, Clowney, etc.

Although I agree with this it would have been nice to see him draft a decent WR, someone who could contribute immediately. Not that Jones or Clowney won't but It sure seems like the guys drafted just ahead of him like Jarrett and Rice were much more highly regarded. Jones scored a 9 on the wonderlick so I doubt he'll be a quick learner. I just hope they can get him to run toward the right endzone. It's a strong message from TT though. He clearly wanted his stock in Jones over Jarrett and Rice. I for one am going to remember TT's move here and will pray for some good things from Jones for TT's sake.

[RashanGary]

I would have to wait and see how the picks pan out.
Sexy? Don't care a whit.
Just because a hyper-pomaded talking head (or a few of our hysterical brethen ALWAYS upset with Thompson)does not have a player on his personal 'expert' list is no reason to assume that player is a dud.
How in the world can you judge this draft before a single player has suited up in Green & Gold?

You're an idiot. We know how all of these guys play right now. IT was the worste draft in history. Worste ever.

I'm joking Shadow if you dind't catch it. I think you are completely logical in thinking it takes time to judge a draft.