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Packers offered 5th for Moss and did negoitiate a new deal
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I've seen Bowie play a couple times, A good hustling kid. He'll have to bear down to make the league.Originally posted by woodbuck27OK thanks.Originally posted by packers1111 110 Oakland (from San Francisco through New England) Bowie, John CB 5-11 188 CincinnatiOriginally posted by woodbuck27The NE Pat's used their 4th rd. pick here:Originally posted by packers11Just heard it on WSSP... Ted wouldn't budge after a 5th round offer...
Its simple... T.T. only offered a 5th... Pats offered a 4th...
HMMM... If I were the raiders I would take the deal from the Pats... I guess T.T. didn't want to offer up more...
28 127 New England Brown, Kareem DT 6-4 290 Miami (Fla.)
Their 5th Rd. pick went to Oakland:
28 165 Oakland (from New England) Frampton, Eric SS 5-11 205
Washington State
That was the Randy Moss pick ^
I missed that.
There a real cute article in the local paper about the kid. He felt he would be drafted, but at his size, ya never know. Next thing he knows, he's basically traded to Oakland for Randy Moss. The kid is baffled!
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She'll kick your ass...(they offer kickboxing in the gyms these days)Originally posted by retailguyCan I beat my wife after I'm drunk just for ole' times sake?Originally posted by MJZiggyBarkeep! Screw the kool-aid. Tequila straight up and follow it with a little Johnny Walker.
"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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That it was 100% TT and NOT Moss. I didn't read the article, but I heard the interview. He said he talked to guys all the way to the top, and said that they were working on a deal with Moss in the range of 3.5-4, about what NE offered him. In the end, he says TT wouldn't offer more than a 5th and wouldn't beat the offer NE put on the table for Moss' services.Originally posted by MJZiggyWhat's your point?
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Well, that's not what was in the article you cited.Originally posted by PartialThat it was 100% TT and NOT Moss. I didn't read the article, but I heard the interview. He said he talked to guys all the way to the top, and said that they were working on a deal with Moss in the range of 3.5-4, about what NE offered him. In the end, he says TT wouldn't offer more than a 5th and wouldn't beat the offer NE put on the table for Moss' services.Originally posted by MJZiggyWhat's your point?"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Well, it is in the GB press gazette. He said it on Gary and Cliff today.Originally posted by MJZiggyWell, that's not what was in the article you cited.Originally posted by PartialThat it was 100% TT and NOT Moss. I didn't read the article, but I heard the interview. He said he talked to guys all the way to the top, and said that they were working on a deal with Moss in the range of 3.5-4, about what NE offered him. In the end, he says TT wouldn't offer more than a 5th and wouldn't beat the offer NE put on the table for Moss' services.Originally posted by MJZiggyWhat's your point?
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From Randy's website (via my fav, PFT):
from profootballtalk.com
POSTED 10:37 p.m. EDT, April 30, 2007
NEW ENGLAND WAS RANDY'S FIRST TARGET
In a release posted on his official web site, former Raiders receiver Randy Moss makes clear that his first choice for a new home was the place where he eventually landed -- the New England Patriots..
“Several weeks ago, when the Raiders first gave Randy permission to talk to other teams about a possible trade, the first team contacted was New England," said agent Tim DiPiero in a release. "Randy wanted to find a team with an established quarterback and coach, a team with a need at wide receiver and most importantly a team with a good chance of going to the Super Bowl. When you consider the genius of Coach Belichick, the brilliance of Tom Brady, a first class organization with the record of the Patriots which arguably had a need at wide receiver, New England was the natural spot."
As we reported on Sunday, it was an unexpected move by Moss to slash his 2007 salary by more than $6 million that finally got New England's attention on Saturday night.
The remarks from DiPiero also reveal that Moss had been on the market for weeks, and the release calls into question reports from Wisconsin suggesting that the Packers spurned Moss and not the other way around.
The Wisconsin State Journal suggests that Moss would have been willing to cut his pay to the same amount that he'll receive in 2007 from the Patriots, and that the deal fell apart only because Green Bay G.M. Ted Thompson would not give up more than a fifth-rounder, even though it's now confirmed that the Packers initially offered (as we had heard) a fourth-rounder for Moss.
The key difference, in our view, is the concession by the WSJ that the Packers wanted a two-year deal. All other things equal, a one-year contract is far better for Moss, since it gives him a chance to rehab his image and hit the cap-crazy free-agent market in March 2008.
So we're not buying -- for a nanosecond -- the notion that the Packers left Moss at the alter. In reality, the guy who once gave a fake moon to the Lambeau Field faithful finally showed his bare butt to the front office."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Not sure I blame Thompson for wanting Moss to sign a two year deal. Who wants to trade a 4th round pick for a guy who will likely play one year for you?"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersNot sure I blame Thompson for wanting Moss to sign a two year deal. Who wants to trade a 4th round pick for a guy who will likely play one year for you?
completely agree with that
we're not winning a Super Bowl in 07 so no need to give up a pick for a guy for a year.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Pretty sure you can find many logical arguments against Moss in any Moss thread...I want to hear a logical reason why a 4th round pick for an established WR like Moss would be "too much"...really. that is the dumbest bunch of BS I've ever heard.
I say who gives an eff. It's over now and Im glad I can go back to hating Moss without impunity.
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