Two questions

[Lurker64]

I am secretly hoping that perhaps now we have a decent chance of actually stopping a 3rd & one. Have not had much confidence in that for at least a decade.

I'm ready to start converting 3rd and 1.

Maybe we can put Berbre in at fullback. He's about as fast as Le'Ron McClain and he can certainly block.

[MJZiggy]

I am secretly hoping that perhaps now we have a decent chance of actually stopping a 3rd & one. Have not had much confidence in that for at least a decade.

Shhhh....you'll jinx it!

[RashanGary]

Letting Williams go because we have this guy would be stupid IMO. DT's only play 60% of the snaps. YOu need 3 good ones to play starter minutes and at least 1 backup who can play because odds are one of your guys who's playing starter time goes down at some point in the year.

[RashanGary]

Getting off the field on 3rd down would certainly impact the outcome of the game.

Big guys typically take a year to develop but this kid looked pretty damn strong. I think he'll contribute to wins right away but I think we'll see his best starting in year 2.

Regardless, we should beable to get the ball back at a more regular rate. I think that helps Brett Favre. Alos, if you get the ball back, that means you are tiring out their defense and at the end of the game we might even beable to pound it a little. Taht would help too.

I'm sort of pumped about this defense. I was hopign for defense if we couldn't get Lynch.

[BallHawk]

I am secretly hoping that perhaps now we have a decent chance of actually stopping a 3rd & one. Have not had much confidence in that for at least a decade.

I'm ready to start converting 3rd and 1.

Maybe we can put Berbre in at fullback. He's about as fast as Le'Ron McClain and he can certainly block.

Don't be hatin' on LeRon!

[Bretsky]

Interesting how many people on here have come around to the idea that maybe this wasn't a bad pick. I wonder if the people who booed TT at Lambeau have had a change of heart.

We're still homers and still Packer fans; whether I liked a pick or not nearly every year my homerism kicks in and I find justification.

Well, except for Ferguson and Rodgers; I just couldn't get by those

[Bretsky]

Letting Williams go because we have this guy would be stupid IMO. DT's only play 60% of the snaps. YOu need 3 good ones to play starter minutes and at least 1 backup who can play because odds are one of your guys who's playing starter time goes down at some point in the year.

Agree completely

[RashanGary]

Hey B,

I'll be right with you if we start letting impact guys go or letting good guys get to UFA and then accting suprised that they got so much.

I trust TT now, but if we dont' see signs this season of a very good defense and/or the offesnive line cannot pass pro or get a push in the redzone then I will be right with you in the skepticism.

My vow right now is that I will not support TT if the defense doesn't look very good. He's had 3 years and he's invested a lot on that side. I like him but I"m not stupid. I completely agree that we need to see signs.

That said, I think they are going to be good this year. Maybe I'm sipping koolaid but I think the DL and LBs are going to take over games and the Oline is going to make the offense soemwhat potent again. I really do have a good feeling abotu this season.

[pack4to84]

Has anyone notice that the media saids how good the minn pick was and then saids Packers pick a often injured DT. Wasn't AP often injured himself.

Back to the topic. After a inside source brought up that the Packers where hi on Harrell and where think of taking him in the first round. I read up on him and wasn't shocked when the pick was made. But still was in the back of my mind hoping that they would take Quinn then try to trade Rodgers for a draft pick.

[Bretsky]

Has anyone notice that the media saids how good the minn pick was and then saids Packers pick a often injured DT. Wasn't AP often injured himself.

Back to the topic. After a inside source brought up that the Packers where hi on Harrell and where think of taking him in the first round. I read up on him and wasn't shocked when the pick was made. But still was in the back of my mind hoping that they would take Quinn then try to trade Rodgers for a draft pick.

I think they might have considered that if they had faith they could get a decent pick for Rodgers.

My buddies and I did discuss how nice it would have been now if we had taken somebody besides Rodgers and then let the QB position play out til Favre left

Because then Brady Quinn would have been our first round draft pick

[Bretsky]

Hey B,

I'll be right with you if we start letting impact guys go or letting good guys get to UFA and then accting suprised that they got so much.

I trust TT now, but if we dont' see signs this season of a very good defense and/or the offesnive line cannot pass pro or get a push in the redzone then I will be right with you in the skepticism.

My vow right now is that I will not support TT if the defense doesn't look very good. He's had 3 years and he's invested a lot on that side. I like him but I"m not stupid. I completely agree that we need to see signs.

That said, I think they are going to be good this year. Maybe I'm sipping koolaid but I think the DL and LBs are going to take over games and the Oline is going to make the offense soemwhat potent again. I really do have a good feeling abotu this season.

I hope you are right; it's a rough schedule so I'm not sure I see much more than 9-7 but I'm at the point where I want to see progress.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Two questions. Give us one name. Put your expertise on the line. Instead of bitching about the Harrell pick, choose who you would have picked.

[Merlin]

I wouldn't have taken Harrell in the 1st round although I think he is a great pickup. I would have either taken Quinn or traded down or out of the first round. I just didn't see much talent left that would warrant a first round contract, e.g. no one I felt would start for us. Harrell may or may not start. If he does start it's because he was the 1st round pick and not because he earned it. I don't think he will be able to beat out everyone for the starting DT position because the competition will make everyone on our DL better automatically. They already have to be thinking about the pick of a DT in the first round and who is out. Not a bad situation for us to be in really.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I have you down for Quinn then. That one might be hard to judge. A lot depends on Quinn and Aaron Rodgers. Quinn could be a good player, but if Aaron Rodgers turns into a similar player, then it will have kind of been a wasted pick.

[Merlin]

It's a tough call with Quinn being that we have Rodgers. I just know that at the time (and TT always says you draft BPA) that drafting a player that was injured most of 2006 vs. a highly touted skill position player who did play the 2006 season goes against his stated beliefs.

I think he is more NFL ready today then Rodgers is at this point. I know the Browns like Frye but who knows, maybe Quinn will end up the starter. I hope not because it would be nice for him to sit a season and learn.